4 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The Essendrug Newspaper was always going to employ Hird. 

Now we will get "His" side of the story

James will tell all except of course the truth

"paperwork and reciepts James. Where are they"

Correct, now for another attempt by Hird and his supporters at revisionism. 

But there is no redemption.

Very Nice James, but still lacking one key part. An apology for your part in the demise and heartbreak for supporters and players. Until that happens, well mate you will go round and around without ever being rid of the guilt which plays a key part in your demise!

I agree that the heat is disproportionate.

The club itself was not banned, as would be the case in other 'team' doping convictions. The club still hasn't actually been punished by the AFL for the doping charges, only the initial 'disrepute/admin' stuff. 

The players lied on their disclosure forms. They knew - but they cop very little heat.

Since the hun's new columnist published his piece there have been quite a considerable number of printed letters and comments from readers singing his praise and innocence. so far they haven't printed one negative entry. of course no-one (with half a brain) is really surprised

It's an editorial decision. Any criticism of Hird would be bad for his mental health. (Robbo's, I mean.)

On 17/03/2017 at 8:46 AM, Lucifer's Hero said:

Contrast that article with the real comeback story of Jarryd Roughead:  “I don’t think it will be emotional. It is a little bit about me (coming back), but I don’t really want it about that either..."

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/jarryd-roughead-doesnt-want-the-attention-to-be-on-him-ahead-of-his-afl-comeback/news-story/b385bddf1ef71429d793533db02da1b5

Roughhead is humble.  Hird is still contrite. WE all know who the real hero is!

It is sickening that Ess are still harping on 'comeback'! 

Hird contrite??!!??   He has never shown even a scintilla of contrition.

contrite |kənˈtrʌɪt, ˈkɒntrʌɪt| adjective.   

feeling or expressing remorse at the recognition that one has done wrong: a contrite tone.

 

Edited March 20, 20178 yr by monoccular

 

2 hours ago, monoccular said:

Hird contrite??!!??   He has never shown even a scintilla of contrition.

contrite |kənˈtrʌɪt, ˈkɒntrʌɪt| adjective.   

feeling or expressing remorse at the recognition that one has done wrong: a contrite tone.

 

Clearly I missed that little word 'not' but the context would have implied it ....  Hird is still not contrite.

 

45 minutes ago, PaulRB said:

 

The lovely Carrie Fisher 

How ironic that the current coach of the bummers says today that he didn't have any positive proof of drugs at the eagles when he was there.

Now he's at his next club and they supposedly have the same problem.

Shame on Worsfold, Eagles,Essendon & the AFL!

Bringing the game into disrepute ... Jesus, don't try that one on. Dean Bailey banned from coaching. Chris Connolly ... banned from and and all admin roles.

Very protective of the good name of their comp, the AFL are.

 

But somehow ... Trevor Nisbett ... still CEO of WCE.

 

AFL. Don't try them on when it comes to drugs. They're tough as.

Not surprised to read the Eagles "dossier" was suppressed by Fitzpatrick. Gee how's the game going to survive without him.

What an arrogant c### he was. 

20 minutes ago, deespicable me said:

Not surprised to read the Eagles "dossier" was suppressed by Fitzpatrick. Gee how's the game going to survive without him.

What an arrogant c### he was. 

Apparantly arrogant is a prerequisiaint of the position.Its safe in the hands of the incumbent !

There is no evidence that the Eagles did anything wrong. The players all said everything was okay. What more proof do you want than that ???

20 minutes ago, pineapple dee said:

There is no evidence that the Eagles did anything wrong. The players all said everything was okay. What more proof do you want than that ???

I'm sure there were waivers signed.

On 3/14/2017 at 5:16 PM, don't make me angry said:

I don't like my post being deleted, the trend was talking about Sam I wrote a comment about Sam and why he likes Trump and hates Obama, that got deleted why?  

Like Google and Facebook are now censoring content they deem to be offensive. In the new Orwellian world if you don't fit the narrative you get howled down or deleted.

9 hours ago, puntkick said:

How ironic that the current coach of the bummers says today that he didn't have any positive proof of drugs at the eagles when he was there.

Now he's at his next club and they supposedly have the same problem.

Shame on Worsfold, Eagles,Essendon & the AFL!

Funny that this is the LEAST talked about point in all of this. Robbo and his puppy Ralphy are constantly drawing threads to Essendon re WC. Its just another way of airing more pro Essendon complaints imo. I can hear the not so subtle sub text  How come despite "the lack of proof" Essendon got hammered where WC got off. Or its clear now that this has obviously all been a conspiracy against Essendon.

The only reason EFC got hammered is that ASADA got involved or it would have been swept under the carpet like everything else. Even then they tipped them off and organised a trial that would find them innocent. Everything gets swept under the carpet except the tanking saga...because hey, that was really serious!  Or so said the betting agencies that was paying big bucks.

I still feel angry about the public shaming the dees got in that period of time. For doing something that probably half the comp had done. Despite enjoying much of her work since....I also can never fully forgive Caro for going so hard. For questioning our right to exist as a club and Stynes' legacy. 

Edited March 21, 20178 yr by Wells 11

I wonder how many clubs have won games, finals or premierships with players under the influence of illicit drugs?  Maybe even won premierships with players on one or two strikes.

Wasn't it Robbo who this week last year wrote an article about the high percentage of Collingwood players testing positive to illicit drugs.  I saw a table posted on DL before it was taken down (appropriately) by moderators that showed some very prominent teams' players being right up there and higher than Collingwood on that list.

And wasn't there a case where medical records were found strewn in an Ivanhoe street that implicated some neighbouring AFL players about 10 years ago?

And who was the Sydney player around that time that claimed illicit drug use was rife in the AFL.  Andy D canned him big time in the press and his reputation never recovered.  Just can't recall the players name but I think it was around the time Sydney won the GF.

I don't condone drug use at all.  But the bluster in the press about WCE 'tainted' premiership is just bluster.  It is naive to think it hasn't happened since. 

Unfortunately for WCE they have had some high profile, very tragic fallout from that era.  I would bet my bottom dollar they aren't the only team to have won a premiership with players taking illicit drugs.  The others have managed to fly under the radar.

Edited March 21, 20178 yr by Lucifer's Hero

22 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I wonder how many clubs have won games, finals or premierships with players under the influence of illicit drugs?  Maybe even won premierships with players on one or two strikes.

Wasn't it Robbo who this week last year wrote an article about the high percentage of Collingwood players testing positive to illicit drugs.  I saw a table posted on DL before it was taken down (appropriately) by moderators that showed some very prominent teams' players being right up there and higher than Collingwood on that list.

And wasn't there a case where medical records were found strewn in an Ivanhoe street that implicated some neighbouring AFL players about 10 years ago?

And who was the Sydney player around that time that claimed illicit drug use was rife in the AFL.  Andy D canned him big time in the press and his reputation never recovered.  Just can't recall the players name but I think it was around the time Sydney won the GF.

I don't condone drug use at all.  But the bluster in the press about WCE 'tainted' premiership is just bluster.  It is naive to think it hasn't happened since. 

Unfortunately for WCE they have had some high profile, very tragic fallout from that era.  I would bet my bottom dollar they aren't the only team to have won a premiership with players taking illicit drugs.  The others have managed to fly under the radar.

I actually couldn't give a toss about illicit drug use and playing. The illicit drugs that are performance enhancing are banned by WADA, and the other do nothing for your performance.

The issue here is that the AFL spend a whole lot of money testing for illicit drugs, many of which are banned by WADA, but they don't share the results with ASADA. Basically the AFL could very well be hiding the use of illicit drugs which are performance enhancing under the guise that it is a 'societal issue'.

It is about time the AFl grew the hell up and expected from their athletes the same standard we expect from teenagers in every Olympic sport.

29 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I wonder how many clubs have won games, finals or premierships with players under the influence of illicit drugs?  Maybe even won premierships with players on one or two strikes.

Wasn't it Robbo who this week last year wrote an article about the high percentage of Collingwood players testing positive to illicit drugs.  I saw a table posted on DL before it was taken down (appropriately) by moderators that showed some very prominent teams' players being right up there and higher than Collingwood on that list.

And wasn't there a case where medical records were found strewn in an Ivanhoe street that implicated some neighbouring AFL players about 10 years ago?

And who was the Sydney player around that time that claimed illicit drug use was rife in the AFL.  Andy D canned him big time in the press and his reputation never recovered.  Just can't recall the players name but I think it was around the time Sydney won the GF.

I don't condone drug use at all.  But the bluster in the press about WCE 'tainted' premiership is just bluster.  It is naive to think it hasn't happened since. 

Unfortunately for WCE they have had some high profile, very tragic fallout from that era.  I would bet my bottom dollar they aren't the only team to have won a premiership with players taking illicit drugs.  The others have managed to fly under the radar.

Dale Lewis... was his name - AFL about as transparent and far more about image than genuine support -  as the UCI...

The Sydney player was Dale Lewis.

5 minutes ago, Chris said:

I actually couldn't give a toss about illicit drug use and playing. The illicit drugs that are performance enhancing are banned by WADA, and the other do nothing for your performance.

The issue here is that the AFL spend a whole lot of money testing for illicit drugs, many of which are banned by WADA, but they don't share the results with ASADA. Basically the AFL could very well be hiding the use of illicit drugs which are performance enhancing under the guise that it is a 'societal issue'.

It is about time the AFl grew the hell up and expected from their athletes the same standard we expect from teenagers in every Olympic sport.

The only way that will happen Chris is if you remove the "Old Boys" running it.

That has a snow flake in Hells chance.

I have said often if I was not a MFC tragic I would have nothing to do with AFL level football.

6 hours ago, Chris said:

I actually couldn't give a toss about illicit drug use and playing. The illicit drugs that are performance enhancing are banned by WADA, and the other do nothing for your performance.

The issue here is that the AFL spend a whole lot of money testing for illicit drugs, many of which are banned by WADA, but they don't share the results with ASADA. Basically the AFL could very well be hiding the use of illicit drugs which are performance enhancing under the guise that it is a 'societal issue'.

It is about time the AFl grew the hell up and expected from their athletes the same standard we expect from teenagers in every Olympic sport.

You are quite right about the issue really being PE drugs.  My post that you quoted was in the context of the posts before it about the WCE grand final, not EFC saga.

The Wet Coke 20006 flag tainted? not in my book. In fact i reckon they deserve more kudos. After all still being able to win a flag after a decade long tear is quite some feat. 

1 hour ago, binman said:

The Wet Coke 20006 flag tainted? not in my book. In fact i reckon they deserve more kudos. After all still being able to win a flag after a decade long tear is quite some feat. 

i feel ya i think they done really well being stuffed up all the time