THE BOMBERS' DOPING SAGA - THE FAT LADY SINGS

[dees189227 12,394]

gee everyone at essendon is becoming paranoid now they record meetings they have. 

[monoccular 17,431]

On 10/03/2017 at 10:43 AM, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I'm amused that discussion on this thread has significantly dried up since the possible involvement of Mick Gatto was floated. Amazing how everyone goes silent when he's considered to be near.

The Donald is (slightly) classier than Newman.   And certainly, like it or not, more influential.

[sue 9,107]

 

29 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

And now, back to the footy......

 

How about never having to go back to the footy because you never left it in the first place. Enough of these inane political rants please. 

[What 18,810]

7 minutes ago, sue said:

 

How about never having to go back to the footy because you never left it in the first place. Enough of these inane political rants please. 

Fair call Sue, post deleted.

[daisycutter 29,616]

3 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Fair call Sue, post deleted.

there's a whole sub-forum called "general discussion" where you can politically rant until your heart is content (or you are beaten to a pulp by the other side) 

[Demon trucker 1,800]

7 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

there's a whole sub-forum called "general discussion" where you can politically rant until your heart is content (or you are beaten to a pulp by the other side) 

This whole tread is non football it should end 

[sue 9,107]

1 hour ago, don't make me angry said:

This whole tread is non football it should end 

Disagree, and the EFC seems hell-bent on ensuring it never does. It is clearly meant to be about football, just not the on-field performance (unless artifically boosted). Since it is in effect about administration, it can stray into politics in a broad sense. But that doesn't justify some of the recent postings (which at least one poster has had the good sense to graciously remove).

[ManDee 7,149]

2 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

This whole tread is non football it should end 

Why do posters ask for a thread to end?

If you don't like it don't read it.

Threads should be allowed to go until they die naturally. If threads are derailed those posts could be removed, why lose the thread. 

Read the title, "The Bombers Doping Saga - The Fat Lady Sings" Last time I looked the Bombers were a football side in the AFL and 34 players from that side were found guilty of doping offences. Wish as we may that the fat lady starts to sing and then another boil bursts forth more scurrilous information, sorry DMMA long may this thread live, don't like it, move on.

[Wells 11 5,406]

15 minutes ago, ManDee said:

Why do posters ask for a thread to end?

If you don't like it don't read it.

Threads should be allowed to go until they die naturally. If threads are derailed those posts could be removed, why lose the thread. 

Read the title, "The Bombers Doping Saga - The Fat Lady Sings" Last time I looked the Bombers were a football side in the AFL and 34 players from that side were found guilty of doping offences. Wish as we may that the fat lady starts to sing and then another boil bursts forth more scurrilous information, sorry DMMA long may this thread live, don't like it, move on.

Agreed! why end it? .....theres still lots more pleasure we can get out of this yet. 

[Demon trucker 1,800]

1 hour ago, sue said:

Disagree, and the EFC seems hell-bent on ensuring it never does. It is clearly meant to be about football, just not the on-field performance (unless artifically boosted). Since it is in effect about administration, it can stray into politics in a broad sense. But that doesn't justify some of the recent postings (which at least one poster has had the good sense to graciously remove).

I don't like my post being deleted, the trend was talking about Sam I wrote a comment about Sam and why he likes Trump and hates Obama, that got deleted why?  

[Whispering_Jack 30,169]

4 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

I don't like my post being deleted, the trend was talking about Sam I wrote a comment about Sam and why he likes Trump and hates Obama, that got deleted why?  

Most likely because it was way off topic,  breached our rules and made a moderator angry.

And now, can we not take this thread for a long walk.

Please stay on topic.

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

Hird is back in the mainstream and feeling better. A couple of years ago I said after all this is over he could only get a job at the Murdoch Hun.  And now he has a job with News Corp. Surprise surprise! Best of luck.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/james-hird-says-overdose-the-result-of-years-of-continual-stress-20170316-gv00i6

Edited March 16, 2017 by america de cali

[biggestred 5,093]

The comeback the comeback the comeback

 

Vomit vomit vomit

[Wrecker45 3,378]

On 14/03/2017 at 9:40 PM, Whispering_Jack said:

Most likely because it was way off topic,  breached our rules and made a moderator angry.

And now, can we not take this thread for a long walk.

Please stay on topic.

Hird will cop heat here for his responsibility over this debacle. Rightly so, but probably disproportionately for mine.

i won't derail this thread and will start another thread in the next week or so on the General Board but Demetriou has a stench about him. Not just in this drugepisode but every business venture he has touched since.

[Sir Why You Little 37,039]

53 minutes ago, america de cali said:

Hird is back in the mainstream and feeling better. A couple of years ago I said after all this is over he could only get a job at the Murdoch Hun.  And now he has a job with News Corp. Surprise surprise! Best of luck.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/james-hird-says-overdose-the-result-of-years-of-continual-stress-20170316-gv00i6

I feel sick and angry

the cheat hath returned

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

9 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I feel sick and angry

the cheat hath returned

Now it will be Hird the shock jock for the next decade or so. A cornucopia of bile and fake news coming.

Edited March 16, 2017 by america de cali

[Lucifers Hero 39,818]

9 hours ago, america de cali said:

Hird is back in the mainstream and feeling better. A couple of years ago I said after all this is over he could only get a job at the Murdoch Hun.  And now he has a job with News Corp. Surprise surprise! Best of luck.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/james-hird-says-overdose-the-result-of-years-of-continual-stress-20170316-gv00i6

Contrast that article with the real comeback story of Jarryd Roughead:  “I don’t think it will be emotional. It is a little bit about me (coming back), but I don’t really want it about that either..."

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/jarryd-roughead-doesnt-want-the-attention-to-be-on-him-ahead-of-his-afl-comeback/news-story/b385bddf1ef71429d793533db02da1b5

Roughhead is humble.  Hird is still contrite. WE all know who the real hero is!

It is sickening that Ess are still harping on 'comeback'! 

[Lucifers Hero 39,818]

Bit of a surprise that Hird suddenly turns up in the media. The AFL pulling some strings? 

I don't begrudge him a path back to good health but I really hope he doesn't use his column to preach about the drugs saga - a column of 'Fake Facts! 

Interestingly, EFC have scaled back the round 1 comeback campaign of 'welcome back our 'heroes'', walk to the G, etc.  Maybe they recognise they aren't the comeback story of the Haw vs Ess.  That honour belongs to Roughhead. 

And/or, the fanfare last week around the Wallis/Elliot/Gatto allegations have forced them to pull their heads in!

[daisycutter 29,616]

i just threw up a little in my mouth 

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,768]

Hird working in the media is one thing. It doesn't equal AFL acceptance, though. I'll be far more interested in seeing whether he turns up at any AFL-organised events, such as the Brownlow Medal count or the Hall of Fame dinner. Actually, it's not really a question of "if", it's more a question of "when". At some time I'm confident that the AFL will want to put everything to do with Essendon 2012 behind them and part of that will be welcoming James Hird back to the so-called AFL family. And whenever that happens, it will be too soon for some.

Cue Beelzebub and SWYL...

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

10 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

Hird will cop heat here for his responsibility over this debacle. Rightly so, but probably disproportionately for mine.

i won't derail this thread and will start another thread in the next week or so on the General Board but Demetriou has a stench about him. Not just in this drugepisode but every business venture he has touched since.

Of course he does. When the whole thing blew up, his first thought was to cover it up. He was prepared to let large scale drug cheating go unpunished, to protect the income stream.

But. He tried to warn them off it, months before. And as he said, he didn't inject anyone.

Who started the whole mess, who didn't heed the warnings, who recklessly brought this disrepute on the game, still affecting it years later, who has failed to take responsibility? The heat is not disproportionate.

45 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Bit of a surprise that Hird suddenly turns up in the media. The AFL pulling some strings?

No, Oz head of News Ltd (EFC supporter and Hird tragic), pulling some strings.

[Wrecker45 3,378]

3 minutes ago, Ted Fidge said:

Of course he does. When the whole thing blew up, his first thought was to cover it up. He was prepared to let large scale drug cheating go unpunished, to protect the income stream.

But. He tried to warn them off it, months before. And as he said, he didn't inject anyone.

Who started the whole mess, who didn't heed the warnings, who recklessly brought this disrepute on the game, still affecting it years later, who has failed to take responsibility? The heat is not disproportionate.

No, Oz head of News Ltd (EFC supporter and Hird tragic), pulling some strings.

The heat is completely disproportionate. Hird the fall guy. Bomber Thompson a more experienced administrator and the man who got the crooks to the club somehow escapes the heat. I could go on but that is the blindingly obvious example.

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

Don't really want to debate the whole thing all over again. Agree others have culpability. But one bloke set the thing in motion.

[Moonshadow 17,676]

The buck stops with the coach. Always has, always will.

The rest is simply noise.

[Sir Why You Little 37,039]

The Essendrug Newspaper was always going to employ Hird. 

Now we will get "His" side of the story

James will tell all except of course the truth

"paperwork and reciepts James. Where are they"