Tom Rockliff

[Wiseblood 24,636]

Just now, hardtack said:

That's a bit harsh... GNF was considered questionable on his Hogan claims as they were essentially just repeating what had been in the press a couple of days previous to his comments.  Generation Dee in my opinion does NOT deserve criticism because he has actually come up with a previously unheard "rumour" that he was prepared to give substance to by alluding to his sources... a big difference.

Never said he deserved it, just said that he needs to understand that he'll get those responses regardless.  If it doesn't eventuate, or it changes, a select few will invariably crack it and have a go.  He doesn't deserve it, but if he wants to post info, he has to understand that it will happen.

[ManDee 7,091]

16 minutes ago, GawnWithTheWind said:

Generation Dee is back peddling at an alarming rate... There goes your cred.

Why do you bother to read threads like this?

People hear things and some choose to post, if you don't like it that's your problem. Enough of the personal. I am glad to hear what might happen, sometimes it does.

[Chris 2,892]

3 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

You could get the information from the player himself and things could still change, is that not reliable information?

Exactly, you actually become more reliable when you can call a change before hand, with a reason, especially if it turns out to be true as it shows you actually are getting reliable information. 

[Ted Lasso 16,968]

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

Never said he deserved it, just said that he needs to understand that he'll get those responses regardless.  If it doesn't eventuate, or it changes, a select few will invariably crack it and have a go.  He doesn't deserve it, but if he wants to post info, he has to understand that it will happen.

100% very rare that anyone can post information on here without getting at least one person question it, if you have confidence in your information though you won't be bothered what posters think.

[The Backyard Charizard 1,178]

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

Never said he deserved it, just said that he needs to understand that he'll get those responses regardless.  If it doesn't eventuate, or it changes, a select few will invariably crack it and have a go.  He doesn't deserve it, but if he wants to post info, he has to understand that it will happen.

This is where future autobiographies of players/managers will be the ONLY way of finding out how close some failed trades were to actually going through...

Invariably a lot of potential trades will be hit and miss but a lot of water has to go under the bridge before total truth is known...

The truth IS out there 

[Demonland 65,975]

I take all whispers with a grain of salt. Even reliable sources information can change or not come to fruition.

[GawnWithTheWind 604]

2 minutes ago, ManDee said:

Why do you bother to read threads like this?

People hear things and some choose to post, if you don't like it that's your problem. Enough of the personal. I am glad to hear what might happen, sometimes it does.

Nothing personal at all.

GD credibility will naturally drop if in fact Rockliff has not had a medical at MFC over the last 12 hours. The fact that he seems to be on a boat in the sun, on his own insta, backs up the fact that it is unreliable. 

If someone reads something that is quite clearly BS, I'd rather them call it out then continue to believe there's a chance the rumour is true.  

[Generation dee 1,336]

22 minutes ago, stuie said:

Interesting that as of 16 hours ago he was out on a boat somewhere sunny and tropical... Wonder when he found time to do the medical in Melbourne?

 

Whilst your overly patronising tone probably doesn't deserve a reply, I'll fill you in.

Medical was on Wednesday or Thursday, not completely sure. Results came back over the weekend, he was in Darwin on the weekend at a birthday/bucks show and was due back tonight to Melbourne. 

That's all I've got, I have no other melb based news

[Cards13 9,117]

12 minutes ago, GawnWithTheWind said:

If you are willing to pass on information from your source, you become not reliable if your source is not reliable. Its pretty simple.

Mate nothing is written in stone. There a numerous hurdles and hoops to get through. Sh!t does change. Take it was a grain of salt and just enjoy it for what it is. A maybe, but a fun maybe.

[deelete my account 1,194]

5 minutes ago, stuie said:

Firstly, Rockliff is away on a boat, most likely in WA, for Jack Redden's bucks weekend. When did he do this medical with MFC?

Secondly, didn't GenerationDee say he got in trouble for passing on the info his source gave him? Why would that source then give him more confidential info?

Thirdly, aside from the possibilities that the situation changed or the source got it wrong, there is also the possibility that GD just made it up? Not saying that is what's happened, but it wouldn't be a first for Demonland. Other posters have had the same accusations leveled at them, I'm not sure why he'd be impervious to that.

 

The best way for me to contact Mahoney with my idea for a trade, would be to start a rumour. Not saying that is or isn't the case here though.

Furthermore, most people are excited by the rumour and want Rockliff, so it kind of suggests that Mahoney should consider the opinions of fans, even if it's been made up. So it's not really the worst thing to happen.

Edited October 17, 2016 by DominatrixTyson

[Stretch Johnson 2,586]

Driving down the highway through Werribee.  The familiar smell....

 

[JTR 2,660]

35 minutes ago, ManDee said:

GD, it is so easy to be a perpetual cynic. Best to ignore them, they soak up all the positive and then claim credit. effem

Thanks for your input. 

+1

[stuie 7,374]

2 minutes ago, Generation dee said:

Whilst your overly patronising tone probably doesn't deserve a reply, I'll fill you in.

Medical was on Wednesday or Thursday, not completely sure. Results came back over the weekend, he was in Darwin on the weekend at a birthday/bucks show and was due back tonight to Melbourne. 

That's all I've got, I have no other melb based news

Seems like a long time for medical results, especially if it was done by our own club doctors. Why would it take 3/4 days for them? Especially during the short trade period. We usually get scan results the same day during the season don't we? Did Brisbane not co-operate with his medical records? (Trying to hide it maybe)

 

[GawnWithTheWind 604]

5 minutes ago, Generation dee said:

Whilst your overly patronising tone probably doesn't deserve a reply, I'll fill you in.

Medical was on Wednesday or Thursday, not completely sure. Results came back over the weekend, he was in Darwin on the weekend at a birthday/bucks show and was due back tonight to Melbourne. 

That's all I've got, I have no other melb based news

Apparently it was in Watsons Bay, NSW? 

Swiss cheese...

[Willmoy1947 3,808]

11 minutes ago, Demonland said:

I take all whispers with a grain of salt. Even reliable sources information can change or not come to fruition.

Commandment No 2 is : Thou shalt use thy brains

                             No 3 is........

[Vogon Poetry 2,095]

41 minutes ago, Generation dee said:

Posters like you are the reason many don't pass on information. All good, demon land can go on without me. 

Had enough of the  inbox messages and posts like yours. Enjoy when you get no information at all! 

GD I frankly don't care if you give information or not.  I'll know by close of business Thursday what trades we've done.  I'd have had no issue with you posting your "rumour" but for the fact that you quoted sources that were so good the rumour couldn't be wrong. If you said you'd got it from someone else who was "generally right" I couldn't care less. If you can't understand the difference I can't help you.

 And by the way, for all those that don't like what I've done I've not sent one PM to GD and I'll happily stand by my approach to this.  I've been too disappointed in the past by trolls putting hopes forward that I've subsequently found out were never even discussed and I questioned this rumour because it had all those hallmarks.

 

[ArtificialWisdom 3,896]

1 minute ago, willmoy said:

Commandment No 2 is : Thou shalt use thy brains

                             No 3 is........

No. 3: Thou shalt believe everything thy reads online

[Moonshadow 16,347]

Makes me laugh all these posters who get their knickers in a knot about whether or not a trade rumour is true on a internet fan forum FCS!

It's not a court of law. Take it with a grain of salt, regardless of accuracy.

[Demonland 65,975]

2 minutes ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

No. 3: Thou shalt believe everything thy reads online

[ding 5,126]

So i got drunk last night for no reason?

Splitting headache AND no Rocky.

Damn. 

[faultydet 7,593]

2 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Good 'Ol Abe.

Handy "Googler", schit COD online player.

[Generation dee 1,336]

4 minutes ago, stuie said:

Seems like a long time for medical results, especially if it was done by our own club doctors. Why would it take 3/4 days for them? Especially during the short trade period. We usually get scan results the same day during the season don't we? Did Brisbane not co-operate with his medical records? (Trying to hide it maybe)

 

I have no idea on that, I'd just be speculating. Would think it would be pretty much the same day for a medical. I find it weird that he wouldn't have had surgery or straight after the season ended of that was the case too. Again, just the info I've got. 

[stuie 7,374]

Just now, Generation dee said:

I have no idea on that, I'd just be speculating. Would think it would be pretty much the same day for a medical. I find it weird that he wouldn't have had surgery or straight after the season ended of that was the case too. Again, just the info I've got. 

He's had the shoulder problems for a few years, maybe it's not something that can be rectified with surgery? If true, seems a bit like us trying to sneak Trenners off to Richmond without them finding out things...

 

[ManDee 7,091]

5 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Obviously a fake dland, Abe only wore bow ties with tails, that photo is a fake. Shame on you! Cred way out the door. 

PS:- I agree with Abe, if it's on the net it is real.

[Vogon Poetry 2,095]

50 minutes ago, ManDee said:

GD, it is so easy to be a perpetual cynic.

I like your posting but this is a bit silly.  Perpetual cynic?  Do you accept everything you read?  I just used a basic "smell test" and his rumour smelt off.  As it's looking much of what GD has said is questionable about medicals etc.

If I've got a view about the likelihood of something happening or being correct are you saying I shouldn't post?  It's a forum for different views.  I'll stand happily by mine as they look reasonably good at the moment.  If Rocky comes to MFC and GD was right all along I'll recognize his information as correct and I was wrong.  Won't be the first time and won't be the last.

Where on earth is the "perpetual cynic" in that.