POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 21

[doc roet 1,289]

Probably sticking my neck out here but I have been disappointed in hogans form this year.

Hasn't lived up to the expectations i had of him after last year.

I really thought he would come out and play a blinder yesterday having had a rest the week before.

To me,Its a toss up to play him or Weeds next week,and I think a lot of our so called

 better players Viney,Jones,Watts, didn't have the same impact as last week.

It was as if they had thrown everything at it last week and were tired.

Don't get me wrong,I am happy with the win,especially over there,

but don't think it was played with the same intensity as the Hawthorn game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[daisycutter 29,734]

hogan's poor form might encourage him to put of contract negotiations till next year hoping he can turn around his form

i hope not

[JV7 2,354]

47 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Me too - I logged on to ticketmaster last night to see how much tickets down at Geelong would be - seems we'll be stuck watching that one in pubs or at home, nothing available as far as I can find.

I did the same... Looks like there's no tickets left!

[What 18,810]

7 minutes ago, doc roet said:

Probably sticking my neck out here but I have been disappointed in hogans form this year.

 

 

His form isnt whats disappointing me (although its a bit down on last year), its more the lack of pack splitting aggression that we saw constantly last season.  He hasnt been as intimidating. Maybe its just 2nd year blues.

[Deemented Are Go! 3,684]

41 minutes ago, Biffen said:

The situation is not too different from '87.

We are a young team on the rise in the last half,hoping for wins we can and can't control ,to give us the last available finals spot on %.

There is a core of talent in this team that look more gifted than '87.

We had Newport,Lyon,Rigoni,Lovett ,Lovell,Flower,Stynes,O'Dwyer ,Hughes ,Viney,Stretch ,Johnson and Yeats who were all solid but Lyon seemed like the only real star(and Robbie) who was bandaged up like a rag doll.Stinga was injured from memory.

And in both years,assuming we do the Blues and North do the right thing,it will come down to a game at the Cattery.

Geelong will not want to rest too many against us as the top teams have done previously before finals.Even if they do -bring it on.

I'm not going to make predictions but the list available and fit this time in ,is superior to what took us to a within a kick of a GF appearance in '87 and I think most of the over 40's will agree.

If we do get to a Prelim,say against Hawthorn,and Sam Mitchell runs in to the protected zone,giving away 50m to give Max a shot from 40 in front,kicks it and kisses the 11 and we do go to the GF I will be quite happy.

But I'm not getting ahead of myself.

Good God, man, you're giving me goosebumps.

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

Hogan is playing like a bloke who has a niggling injury. Almost there, but not quite.

Recall Tyson last year carried a leg injury all season.

A Hogan fit in body and mind will be something to behold. Jonno Brown all over again.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

When you put it this way it really hits home that we are a proper footy team again...  I just realised I dont know the name of one kid in the coming draft.  Usually I am studying all the prospects by round 8 as our seasons normally over by then.  

 

Indeed. By this stage of the season in most years, the board is clogged up with 'the (so and so) thread' of some poor kid who would be lauded as a potential savior by all and sundry. I'm not sure there is even one of those threads this year. 
Another good thing is that we have won our bet with the Suns. From what I remember, our trade for pick three last year was given to us in return for our first round pick this year. If we performed well this year, it would be worth less. We beat Carlton and I would say we are looking at something just outside pick 10 (maybe 11 or 12). Well played, Josh Mahoney.

Edited August 14, 2016 by Colin B. Flaubert

[old dee 23,871]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I enjoyed that game.

No complaints  from me

Or me

[Nasher 33,617]

16 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

His form isnt whats disappointing me (although its a bit down on last year), its more the lack of pack splitting aggression that we saw constantly last season.  He hasnt been as intimidating. Maybe its just 2nd year blues.

Pack splitting aggression is a function of form.  He's not playing well, he's not as confident, so he's not going as hard, he's missing easy goals.  It's a great big feedback loop.

It's all in his head.  I'm quite comfortable that he'll come out of it, and am happy to just wait (with him in the seniors, before anyone suggests anything silly like dropping him), knowing that he'll come good.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

57 minutes ago, Biffen said:

The situation is not too different from '87.

We are a young team on the rise in the last half,hoping for wins we can and can't control ,to give us the last available finals spot on %.

There is a core of talent in this team that look more gifted than '87.

We had Newport,Lyon,Rigoni,Lovett ,Lovell,Flower,Stynes,O'Dwyer ,Hughes ,Viney,Stretch ,Johnson and Yeats who were all solid but Lyon seemed like the only real star(and Robbie) who was bandaged up like a rag doll.Stinga was injured from memory.

And in both years,assuming we do the Blues and North do the right thing,it will come down to a game at the Cattery.

Geelong will not want to rest too many against us as the top teams have done previously before finals.Even if they do -bring it on.

I'm not going to make predictions but the list available and fit this time in ,is superior to what took us to a within a kick of a GF appearance in '87 and I think most of the over 40's will agree.

If we do get to a Prelim,say against Hawthorn,and Sam Mitchell runs in to the protected zone,giving away 50m to give Max a shot from 40 in front,kicks it and kisses the 11 and we do go to the GF I will be quite happy.

But I'm not getting ahead of myself.

Im shaking at the thought.

[Lucifers Hero 40,353]

Perhaps his contract is playing on his mind.  He hasn't kicked a goal in his last 3 games and his conversion rate has dropped and is well outside the top 50. 

As an aside does anyone else think Jesse is overweight?  The club 'Heartbeat' magazine has him listed as 104kg...quite heavy for his height especially when compared to other forwards.  The 2015 'Heartbeat' had him @ 101kg.

Maybe he just needs to get fitter, sort out his set shot routine and sign his contract

Edited August 14, 2016 by Lucifer's Hero

[Emerald 1,744]

I think opposition teams have figured out that if they can rattle Hogan mentally early in a game that it neutralizes his effectiveness.

 

 

[Moonshadow 17,677]

The word 'rebuild' is now pushed firmly to the back of my mind. 

Edited August 14, 2016 by Moonshadow

[McQueen 17,867]

My Power supporting mate Dave when I offered a six pack of froffies as a bet before last nights game:

Still no word.

[Bossdog 2,002]

58 minutes ago, doc roet said:

Probably sticking my neck out here but I have been disappointed in hogans form this year.

Hasn't lived up to the expectations i had of him after last year.

I really thought he would come out and play a blinder yesterday having had a rest the week before.

To me,Its a toss up to play him or Weeds next week,and I think a lot of our so called

 better players Viney,Jones,Watts, didn't have the same impact as last week.

It was as if they had thrown everything at it last week and were tired.

Don't get me wrong,I am happy with the win,especially over there,

but don't think it was played with the same intensity as the Hawthorn game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Geez Doc......He is a 20 year old playing in his second full season of footy.....He had a great year last year and has kicked nearly 40 goals this year......He is not our only option up forward now as the emergence of other forwards progresses.   Our expectations grew as a result of last year.

How about we just give the kid a break.

It's a hard old game this footy caper ....you can't expect all the players in the side to play blinders, just be thankful that we are winning when a few stars have off days.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

Great win and now we're really building.

The feeling will be infectious for our young group and I can't wait to see us at the G next week with a big Melb crowd.

What is so pleasing is that when guys like Hogan and Viney are down, others are bobbing up.

These are the kind of waves we need to keep riding.

Huge.

[Cards13 9,117]

220 odd times we turned out on game day since we last won 3 in a row. Nice feeling. 4 will be better, and well 5 will be as one poster puts it, will be worth a jolly good flogging feeling.

[titan_uranus 25,043]

Haven't been able to watch any of the game yet, so I didn't know before coming on here that there were negative aspects of a 40-point win interstate against a side we haven't beaten for 5 years or in Adelaide for 16 years.

The fact there are negatives, or perceived negatives, shows how far we've come.

Being excited about football, both short-term and long-term, is how it should be.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

Also, it must be said:

We have had an unbelievvvvvvvable run without injury. We just keep getting through games completely unscathed.

I don't remember a year like it.

Edited August 14, 2016 by stevethemanjordan

[Moneider96 1,045]

Picked up on something at the end of the third quarter. After the mini brawl, VDB went to calm Hogan down (as the team was proceeding to huddle) causing Jesse to shove VDB twice. Anything in it? 

[daisycutter 29,734]

8 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Haven't been able to watch any of the game yet, so I didn't know before coming on here that there were negative aspects of a 40-point win interstate against a side we haven't beaten for 5 years or in Adelaide for 16 years.

The fact there are negatives, or perceived negatives, shows how far we've come.

Being excited about football, both short-term and long-term, is how it should be.

yep it's time for you to release uranus, titan 

Edited August 14, 2016 by daisycutter

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

9 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Haven't been able to watch any of the game yet, so I didn't know before coming on here that there were negative aspects of a 40-point win interstate against a side we haven't beaten for 5 years or in Adelaide for 16 years.

The fact there are negatives, or perceived negatives, shows how far we've come.

Being excited about football, both short-term and long-term, is how it should be.

The first half was as good as the Hawthorn game, in the second half we had too many silly little skill errors and poor decisions that let Port back into the game. 

 

[Redleg 41,421]

3 minutes ago, Moneider96 said:

Picked up on something at the end of the third quarter. After the mini brawl, VDB went to calm Hogan down (as the team was proceeding to huddle) causing Jesse to shove VDB twice. Anything in it? 

Probably not. He was livid with Boak and you could see he wanted to drop him.

[Crompton's the man 659]

12 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

3 in a row. Hopefully 4 by the end of Sunday next week. I'm flying over for the game, can't wait! 

Simply predicting the future (five in my dreams)

[Nasher 33,617]

22 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Haven't been able to watch any of the game yet, so I didn't know before coming on here that there were negative aspects of a 40-point win interstate against a side we haven't beaten for 5 years or in Adelaide for 16 years.

The fact there are negatives, or perceived negatives, shows how far we've come.

Being excited about football, both short-term and long-term, is how it should be.

I think a lot of the mood was because most of us were still in the clouds from last week, which continued in the first half.  We were poor in the third quarter, but now that my ears have stopped ringing from the comedown, I'm very happy with the result and see the game in an overwhelmingly positive light.  

Since you're watching it already knowing the result, I don't think you'll take away the same negatives as those who endured the stress of the third term in real time.