Нет! Я не могу поверить , что это обсуждается . Шутки в сторону . ?

14 minutes ago, Deevout said:

Нет! Я не могу поверить , что это обсуждается . Шутки в сторону . ?

Nyet !!!!!   Unequivocally Nyet !!!!

I applaud your bravery in starting this thread Dazzle.

FWIW, as a free agent, if the price was reasonable, I would sign Vickery. He would instantly be our best option as a part time ruck, part time forward.  As maligned as he is (and often deservedly so) his best football is very, very good.  Maybe a new environment would bring that out of him in a consistent fashion.

We sacrifice nothing in free agency other than some money; if the price is right, I say get him.

Perhaps people should go over to The Punt Road End to see why they are willing to give TV away:

some quotes:

"I'm still trying to work out why anyone would want to sign him."

"I have been thinking similarly, Jinx.
Can't fathom why any other club would contemplate signing him given his under-performing career at RFC.
Vickery is a depth player at best ... and even that's questionable, in my opinion."

"When he plays well he's pretty damn good.  It's just too infrequent.     Even this year when he's played crap he's still kicked more goals than Griffins".

"True, but then Ty doesn't stray more than 25m from goals."

"For me it would be enough just to see him *smile* up someone else's forward structure "

As others both here and on the PRE site have noted....he will not ruck and he refuses to lead and run as a forward......

He will be a superstar, the fact that he has under-performed at Richmond is an indictment on the whole football club.

Seems like a bit of a non-issue.

I'm confident Taylor, Goodwin, Viney, Mahoney and co know well enough to steer clear.

The arguments against Tyrone aren't dissimilar to Watts until 12 months ago. Has the tools, is inconsistent in application and is a confidence player who has shown moments when you think the penny has dropped.  Is exactly the type of player we need and would not cost in trade as Free Agent. Under free agent I would be well open to it and back our development in.  

Funny my misses is a Tigers fan and she is on the Richmond supporter page and she said a lot of there fans are keen to Swap Vickery for Dawes 

3 minutes ago, deefella said:

Funny my misses is a Tigers fan and she is on the Richmond supporter page and she said a lot of there fans are keen to Swap Vickery for Dawes 

Would do that in a heartbeat.... 

9 minutes ago, deefella said:

Funny my misses is a Tigers fan and she is on the Richmond supporter page and she said a lot of there fans are keen to Swap Vickery for Dawes 

Vickery can take a grab

i 'll give him that..

One of the most unlikable players in the AFL.  But for a 3rd rounder Ill take him and say thanks to Richmond for giving him the 100 games he needed to get comfortable at AFL level being a 200cm KPF/ruck.

Edited July 25, 20169 yr by Petraccattack

11 minutes ago, deefella said:

Funny my misses is a Tigers fan and she is on the Richmond supporter page and she said a lot of there fans are keen to Swap Vickery for Dawes 

Three-way swap whereby we get a 2nd hand set of golf clubs could be the go!

He could probably teach Bernie a thing or two about getting decent purchase on a strike to the head

Edited July 25, 20169 yr by johndemons

3 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

One of the most unlikable players in the AFL.  But for a 3rd rounder Ill take him and say thanks to Richmond for giving him the 100 games he needed to get comfortable at AFL level being a 200cm KPF/ruck.

I'm pretty sure he is a free agent?

15 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

One of the most unlikable players in the AFL.  But for a 3rd rounder Ill take him and say thanks to Richmond for giving him the 100 games he needed to get comfortable at AFL level being a 200cm KPF/ruck.

Maybe we could win him in a vickery auction?

If this spud ends up at the club, I will flip tables.

1 hour ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

The arguments against Tyrone aren't dissimilar to Watts until 12 months ago. Has the tools, is inconsistent in application and is a confidence player who has shown moments when you think the penny has dropped.  Is exactly the type of player we need and would not cost in trade as Free Agent. Under free agent I would be well open to it and back our development in.  

Has the tools as in what Watts has? Not even close. 

Tyrone's not even VFL standard!

24 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Has the tools as in what Watts has? Not even close. 

Not the same tools but has the right technical attributes to be a quality player. Has kicked 3 goals on 4 occasions this year which underlines he has ability. Is an excellent set shot kick and moves extremely well for a 200 cm player. Its all in his head and as a free agent would be worth the risk/reward for a position we clearly don't have covered. 

Tyrone [censored] Vickery..

19 minutes ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

Not the same tools but has the right technical attributes to be a quality player. Has kicked 3 goals on 4 occasions this year which underlines he has ability. Is an excellent set shot kick and moves extremely well for a 200 cm player. Its all in his head and as a free agent would be worth the risk/reward for a position we clearly don't have covered. 

The problem with Vickery, like Dawes, is that he has no inclination to be a 2nd ruckman, so he doesn't address a need.

8 hours ago, picket fence said:

FINISHED Both, and you can add Trengove to this list!

Except one just signed a 3 year contract! 

2 hours ago, deefella said:

Funny my misses is a Tigers fan and she is on the Richmond supporter page and she said a lot of there fans are keen to Swap Vickery for Dawes 

Vickerys a free agent but I would still do that deal - they can have Grimes too 

35 minutes ago, mo64 said:

The problem with Vickery, like Dawes, is that he has no inclination to be a 2nd ruckman, so he doesn't address a need.

Neither did Tippett from memory.

The market for him might be stronger than people expect and the tigers can force a trade if the compensation isn't good enough.

All up that could mean paying a lot for a C grader who might give us a few years before the game moves past him.

I'd rather get a D grader (ie. Dawes, Pedersen or a delisted player) and go in a bit short at one position until fixing it properly with a quality player either via trade or draft.