12 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Sounds like we're very keen on Hibberd and good judges rate him.  Good players will make us better but I still don't see his role as a recruiting priority.  We've got Melksham, Salem, Wagner, White and Hunt all capable at HB.  "Hibberd will free them to move to the midfield" yeah maybe but we've got N.Jones, Vince, Viney, Tyson, Brayshaw, Petracca, Oliver and Stretch there already - who are they pushing out?  Then there's VDB and Harmes.  I haven't even bothered to include Lumumba, Trengove, Grimes, M.Jones and Bugg but some are very useful depth at a minimum.

Hurley on the other hand ...

well of course hurley is the big fish who would make the biggest structural difference and fill a gaping hole. worth paying big dollars

If our young midfielders get better and become bigger problems for the opposition to counter, as most think they will ( eg Viney who is almost there, Tyson, Oliver, Brayshaw ant Petracca)  Jonesy will only get better and better as the job gets shared around more equally. At the moment he ( and Vince)  take on a great share of team performance responsibility each week.

Sorry to those who wasted time writing pretty reasonable posts on the Nathan Jones argument, but this clearly is not the right thread for that discussion, and all (ir)relevant posts have been deleted.

8 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

Sounds like we're very keen on Hibberd and good judges rate him.  Good players will make us better but I still don't see his role as a recruiting priority.  We've got Melksham, Salem, Wagner, White and Hunt all capable at HB.  "Hibberd will free them to move to the midfield" yeah maybe but we've got N.Jones, Vince, Viney, Tyson, Brayshaw, Petracca, Oliver and Stretch there already - who are they pushing out?  Then there's VDB and Harmes.  I haven't even bothered to include Lumumba, Trengove, Grimes, M.Jones and Bugg but some are very useful depth at a minimum.

Hurley on the other hand ...

Sorry Nasher but this is where the post started thought it was fair to point out our weakness that's all.

On 7/8/2016 at 11:01 PM, hemingway said:

I might be old, dead or forgotten but I have standards. Bull fighting has history, culture, skill, artistry and a narrative that would be lost on these guys. Running the bulls is for thrill seekers, drunks and dope heads. Like many things, this event has been spoiled by modern tourism and idiots that have the money to travel but have no appreciation for anything other than booze and living the moment. Their presence and participation is meaningless. 

Lurve ya posts Hemmingway!! the literary conduit that forms bond with sharp and incisive dialogue rests well with "Picket Fence"

Dawes out at the end of 2016 saves us $500,000-550,000 a year.  We can swap that for offer for Hurley (or sure up Hogan's long term contract).

On 06/07/2016 at 9:30 PM, Moonshadow said:

Too many Michaels in one trade period for my liking

Nobody likes taking the Mickey.

On 7/8/2016 at 11:01 PM, hemingway said:

I might be old, dead or forgotten but I have standards. Bull fighting has history, culture, skill, artistry and a narrative that would be lost on these guys. Running the bulls is for thrill seekers, drunks and dope heads. Like many things, this event has been spoiled by modern tourism and idiots that have the money to travel but have no appreciation for anything other than booze and living the moment. Their presence and participation is meaningless. 

narrative pffffftt

Some wanchor in frilly clothes pretending to the world that he is wonderful, until that "oh [censored]" moment, when the bull gets a chance to stick its horns into his guts.

Christians to the lions, or gladiator death matches have history too. Bullfighting should be consigned to history with them. An utterly pointless "sport"

Lets send Hurley and Hibberd to Africa during every off season, where they could stalk and shoot an endangered species like Lion, at great distances. That would prove their manhood, and build self esteem.

13 hours ago, demon3165 said:

Sorry Nasher but this is where the post started thought it was fair to point out our weakness that's all.

Yes and it was quite frankly a ridiculous diversion.  I said that:

"  We've got Melksham, Salem, Wagner, White and Hunt all capable at HB.  "Hibberd will free them to move to the midfield" yeah maybe but we've got N.Jones, Vince, .."

and you raised weaknesses in N.Jones game.  

Salem and Hunt hopefully do have a future in our midfield but there's no way they'll be pushing N.Jones out of it to Casey.  He's not a perfect footballer but he'd be in the starting 18 at every club and in the starting centre square 4 at many.  And yes I'd prefer N.Jones to Prestia or O'Meara.

4 hours ago, Biffen said:

Nobody likes taking the Mickey.

Finn?

12 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Dawes out at the end of 2016 saves us $500,000-550,000 a year.  We can swap that for offer for Hurley (or sure up Hogan's long term contract).

Dare say Hurley would command a higher figure, however it would go a long way towards it.

13 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Dawes out at the end of 2016 saves us $500,000-550,000 a year.  We can swap that for offer for Hurley (or sure up Hogan's long term contract).

I am not sure on Garland, Grimes or Terlich's contracts, but there is some more money to add to it..

1 hour ago, faultydet said:

narrative pffffftt

Some wanchor in frilly clothes pretending to the world that he is wonderful, until that "oh [censored]" moment, when the bull gets a chance to stick its horns into his guts.

Christians to the lions, or gladiator death matches have history too. Bullfighting should be consigned to history with them. An utterly pointless "sport"

Lets send Hurley and Hibberd to Africa during every off season, where they could stalk and shoot an endangered species like Lion, at great distances. That would prove their manhood, and build self esteem.

Each to their own Faulty. If it be your will. 

15 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Dawes out at the end of 2016 saves us $500,000-550,000 a year.  We can swap that for offer for Hurley (or sure up Hogan's long term contract).

The players new CBA is set to be finalised at the end of this year, which will likely include a large increase to team salary caps (based off the recent TV rights increase). The current salary cap is approx $10.6m with a salary floor of $10.07m. Although the AFLPA's demands of a fixed percentage of AFL & club revenue is likely to be met, there will be a significant pay rise.

At the end of the day the money freed up by Dawes etc. moving on or being on reduced contracts will be a drop in the water compared to the CBA TPP increase.

"Banned Essendon defender Michael Hibberd is likely to request a trade to Melbourne."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/essendon/banned-essendon-defender-michael-hibberd-is-likely-to-request-a-trade-to-melbourne/news-story/a69d39bbbdccf72a878bb774d59694bd

 

Lol dreaming if they think they are getting a 1st rounder 

Worst club to trade with -  this will be interesting if he decides on Dees -  just need to hold the line -  we paid overs for Jake, they can take a little under value for Hibbert.

Offer the cheating scum NOTHING.

 

F*&k them, and stuff their idiot supporters. Take him for free.

Honestly Essendon won't settle for pick 27. Except a 2017 first rounder is not worth it. Maybe dodoro will try and incorporate a third party in order to satisfy his needs. Also Hurley will not leave essendon.

12 minutes ago, Tony Tea said:

"Banned Essendon defender Michael Hibberd is likely to request a trade to Melbourne."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/essendon/banned-essendon-defender-michael-hibberd-is-likely-to-request-a-trade-to-melbourne/news-story/a69d39bbbdccf72a878bb774d59694bd

 

 

God damn it I read that as Michael Hurley

Er, can't he just claim to be a delisted free agent? Why offer Essendon anything? I was under the impression that the banned players could claim breach of contract and walk to the club of their choice. They are shlt to deal with, so no great loss if we burn that bridge.

Apologies if this has already been discussed in detail. 

Just now, Petraccattack said:

 

God damn it I read that as Michael Hurley

i thought it meant michael and hibberd as a package - lol

2 minutes ago, braysure said:

Honestly Essendon won't settle for pick 27. Except a 2017 first rounder is not worth it. Maybe dodoro will try and incorporate a third party in order to satisfy his needs. Also Hurley will not leave essendon.

They need to be forced to settle for nothing.

The grievance process is there for a reason, and if these circumstances are not enough to trigger it, then the rule should be scrapped as the joke it is.

1 minute ago, Moonshadow said:

Er, can't he just claim to be a delisted free agent? Why offer Essendon anything? I was under the impression that the banned players could claim breach of contract and walk to the club of their choice. They are shlt to deal with, so no great loss if we burn that bridge.

Apologies if this has already been discussed in detail. 

None of the 12 will do that. Bank it. They will not disrespect essendon like that even after what they have been through.

1 minute ago, Moonshadow said:

Er, can't he just claim to be a delisted free agent? Why offer Essendon anything? I was under the impression that the banned players could claim breach of contract and walk to the club of their choice. They are shlt to deal with, so no great loss if we burn that bridge.

Apologies if this has already been discussed in detail. 

Hopefully the idea is "you'll accept this as it is a reasonable trade or......."

He has the same manager as Watts and Melksham FYI