Post match Discussion "Fire away"

[chook fowler 19,567]

Would like to have seen some good old fashioned anger expressed by Roos at his presser because today. 

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

I'll put it out there..we lack any genuine pace outside mid..as good as oliver will be..we have many like him..Parish wod have been the silky speedy outsider we needed but we went with Oliver..i feel that until we address the outside run we wont go anywjere..maybe Milkshake..maybe stretch..not sure where it will come from

[Adam The God 30,427]

20 minutes ago, Diamond said:

Why has none of our coaches taught our players about SPREAD! Our players don't seem to be able to spread out like other teams. Our players don't seem to be able to stick like glue to other teams' players because they don't understand the other team is spreading and then getting the ball out into space away from the packs.

They've definitely been taught to spread. Our players didn't bring the work rate.

18 minutes ago, Curry & Beer said:

He won't be as good, because he was unlucky enough enough to be drafted to the one club that hasn't got the foggiest idea of how to produce an elite player. FCS it has been what 20-30 years since we have done so and we've had top shelf draft talent the majority of the time

I have no concern with our development team. In fact, it's arguably the standout attraction of our club to prospective players. I've no doubt Oliver will be as good, if not better than Parish.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,408]

Round 2 and it's already season over for 

Melbourne

Richmond 

Essendon

Saints

Pies

Freo if they loose tonight

Port??

Lions

 

 

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

18 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

Exactly, the entire mindset today was braindead. All we had to do the entire day was attack, attack, attack. Their total lack of structure would've killed them with an inability to defend.

But no, clearly that was too [censored] obvious a plan.

Nah we are too easy to DEFEND Saber for any "attack attack attack" to work to our advantage against most clubs at the moment.

That constant bombing long to the square is just too predictable. Draws most opponents like a bear to honey and creates a bloody mosh pit of horror that is very hard to create goals out of. Only a huge pack marking forward (Locket/Reiwoldt/Carey) at his best or over the top mark (from side or behind) like Howe/Fasolo/Hart etc would/could benefit from such a horrible entry method. Once in a while we get a fast break for jeffy out the back (or in today's game Clarry after one fairly quick entry by Jones from the middle in the last). But too rare to worry any opponents or win a match with.

Add to that the fact that our forwards refuse to lead up often enough/double back etc (work rate) and create space behind for others to lead into/or double back into (or take marks up the ground when team mates are under pressure by working hard on the lead higher up the ground/in front of defender). Add to that our pretty average ability to hit targets coming i50 when they do lead (ie., we mostly don't and turn the ball over straight to the opposition who then run it out quickly for the rebound/see TMacs horrible lack of awareness when tackled from behind in the 2nd today around the 50 meter arc after deciding to play on...which he does far too often no matter where/what stage of the game he is in) and you have yourself a recipe for more horrible losses no matter the quality of the opposition.

Most of this all comes about through lack of work rate/effort through the middle and up forward and to a fair degree a lack of confidence in hitting targets due to our poor disposal skills by foot generally speaking.

I wish i had $10 today for every panick bomb that went long to a crowded square hoping for the best (last week included!!)

[Ethan Tremblay 30,976]

Oliver got the rising star nomination last week and now expert posters saying we should have taken Parish because of today's game.

Classic.

Edited April 2, 2016 by Ethan Tremblay

[Seinfeld 40]

Essendon beat the eventual premiers in round 2 last year. ....so the signs are ominous

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Just now, Ethan Tremblay said:

Oliver got the rising star nomination last week and now expert posters saying we should have taken Parish because of today's game.

Classic.

Demonland at it's finest.

I think it was dazzle who made the comment that Gawn was now 'lazy' after signing a juicy contract, or something like that.  Supporters on here go loopy after a loss.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,408]

Tomorrow I get a free data day from Telstra for being bent over.

Whats this rabble of a club going to give me?

[DemonLad5 1,642]

Roosy can really [censored] right off. Seriously. Give Goody the gig now and wish Roos the best. He is a terrible game day coach and team selector. Be he wasn't even 1/4 of the problem

[Maple Demon 449]

4 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Round 2 and it's already season over for 

Melbourne

Richmond 

Essendon

Saints

Pies

Freo if they loose tonight

Port??

Lions

 

 

Only 2 (3 if Freo don't come back) of those teams are 0-2 after 2 rounds. Bit early to say season over for all of them.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,408]

Take your pledge per win,

take your $200 raffle tickets and stick them.

[praha 11,240]

3 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Tomorrow I get a free data day from Telstra for being bent over.

Whats this rabble of a club going to give me?

A free scarf?

[Deecisive 1,709]

Sadly our players do not know how to count, otherwise they would not be kicking it so often to contests where there are two or three opposition players to our one. unfortunately that's what we do from kickouts and into the forward line. It is demoralising to see players blindly kick it in directly to an opposition players who marks uncontested. The best teams apply pressure, you apply pressure by tackling the hell out of them everytime they get the ball, our players instead run beside opposition players trying to corral them, the spectre of bruise free football still lingers. and we don't cope well with opposition teams using their spare player to create overlaps as our spare player is usually sitting deep down in the backline.

[Maple Demon 449]

Take some happy pills BA. You're goingto pop a blood vessel.

[DemonLad5 1,642]

Not to mention Roos not mentioning anything about the turnovers and lack of effort and desire. Blaming it on being "tired". How can you be tired, we in round [censored] 2!!! Must change things. Please play Petracca and Trengove next week. Drop Harmes, Tyson, Garland. Even Hoges, although they wouldn't drop the genius, once in a lifetime, wonderboy, great white hope forward

[Gipsy Danger 1,067]

Well it's been a long train ride home down the Gippsland line so it given me plenty of time to think about disgrace that was served up today.

what I have discovered is that after 10 years of the same old Melbourne Football Club [censored], it doesn't even hurt anymore.  I'm so used to being disappointed that I don't even care.  It's just another typical week of a Demons supporter. Happy if they win, but a loss is just water off a ducks back now.

On the game it's self though, what a pathetic attempt at a football game that was.  Hogan might be a laziest forward I've ever seen. He doesn't lead, he doesn't chase, he doesn't tackle, he doesn't actually compete in the air.  If it doesn't come to him by butler service he just cracks the sads, throws his arms out and watches the ball race away.  He's playing like an entitled rich kid who thinks the world revolves around him.

McDonald is a decent defender but when the balls in his hands he can't make a decision if his life depends on it.  He doesn't know when to take off and run, hand pass it off or just kick the thing out of there!  I said it in the match day thread. He and Garland couldn't seem to decide who was playing on Daniher, half the time it came in and he was playing on Bugg or Jetta.

Lumumba is a backman who didn't lay a single tackle, all he did was run into trouble.  Oliver was left hung out to dry by his more senior team mates. It's the kids second game, he shouldn't be trying to do it all! Kent did nothing all day. Watts was as lazy and half hearted as ever. Gawn was hardly sighted outside of a ball up and when did win them they went to nowhere. Brayshaw was clearly underdone and probably should not have been selected, not really his fault but if you put your hand up to play then you gotta be ready to go.

Paul Roos looked like he was on the phone to his nana all day in the box. 

Garlett and Kennedy were pretty much it today and jeffy only had 6 touches.

 

hmmm maybe it does still hurt

 

[Nasher 33,617]

7 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Round 2 and it's already season over for 

Melbourne

Richmond 

Essendon

Saints

Pies

Freo if they loose tonight

Port??

Lions

 

 

According to one of the commentators last night, apparently only 2 sides who started the season 0-2 have made the finals in the last 41 years, and one of those sides was Carlton when Essendon were disqualified. 

At the moment that is only Brisbane, and it looks like St Kilda and Freo might be added tonight.

It's stupid to say a side who is 1-1 is season over. So much can happen over a 22 week season.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,408]

1 minute ago, Maple Demon said:

Only 2 (3 if Freo don't come back) of those teams are 0-2 after 2 rounds. Bit early to say season over for all of them.

4-5 months of pre season and teams serve up what they have.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Just now, DemonLad5 said:

Not to mention Roos not mentioning anything about the turnovers and lack of effort and desire. Blaming it on being "tired". How can you be tired, we in round [censored] 2!!! Must change things. Please play Petracca and Trengove next week. Drop Harmes, Tyson, Garland. Even Hoges, although they wouldn't drop the genius, once in a lifetime, wonderboy, great white hope forward

Logic is not your strong point - we must change things, so you want to bring in blokes who are still lacking in match fitness.  Superb thinking.

[Nasher 33,617]

2 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

4-5 months of pre season and teams serve up what they have.

What's the relationship between months of pre-season and round 1-2 form?

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,408]

2 minutes ago, Nasher said:

According to one of the commentators last night, apparently only 2 sides who started the season 0-2 have made the finals in the last 41 years, and one of those sides was Carlton when Essendon were disqualified. 

At the moment that is only Brisbane, and it looks like St Kilda and Freo might be added tonight.

It's stupid to say a side who is 1-1 is season over. So much can happen over a 22 week season.

Not it's not, yes I appreciate a lot can happen but there are trends appearing already which are a continuation from last year.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,408]

1 minute ago, Nasher said:

What's the relationship between months of pre-season and round 1-2 form?

Is this a serious question??

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,408]

3 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Logic is not your strong point - we must change things, so you want to bring in blokes who are still lacking in match fitness.  Superb thinking.

Roos spoke about the players getting ahead of themselves, maybe the coaches are guilty of this. 

[Nasher 33,617]

1 minute ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Is this a serious question??

Yes. Every year the pre-season is 4-5 months, and every year some clubs come out firing and some clubs come out flat. I'm not sure what your point is.