On 02/12/2024 at 19:52, Demonland said:

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Great kudos for @Demonland!

I'm assuming someone from this forum was the photographer with the scoop?

7 hours ago, Mickey said:

Pies and Lions did something similar with Daicos and the Ashcrofts. AFL changed it so you need to wait until rnd 6 to formalise it, but it's not against the rules.

LIONS IN LEVI TALKS

NEGOTIATIONS continue on an agreement for father-son prospect Levi Ashcroft, with the AFL's new rules and uplift in total player payments making it potentially a landmark deal for an undrafted player.

As previously done with the likes of Collingwood's Nick Daicos, Essendon's Joe Daniher and Ashcroft's older brother Will at Brisbane, father-son prospects are able to essentially agree to longer contracts than the AFL's standardised first deals when they commit to nominating as a father-son in their draft campaign.

Daicos, in 2021, and Will Ashcroft the following season, both agreed to two extra years with their respective clubs as four-year deals, worth approximately $550,000-$600,000 in the third and fourth years. Daicos has since had his deal extended to be close to $1 million a season through to his free agency at the end of 2029.

The AFL's changed rules last year as part of the new collective bargaining agreement mean that top-20 picks are now locked in on initial three-year deals and that extensions can't officially be lodged and approved until after round six the following year. 

However, 'handshake agreements' can be discussed, with the younger Ashcroft situation looming as a test case for the game's era of 'new money'.

Sounds like draft tampering to me

Edited December 3, 2024Dec 3 by Dr. Gonzo

16 hours ago, layzie said:

Has there ever been a player in history where the colours did not look good on them? 

Gary moorcroft

rookie me central has a rundown of the allies 2025 squad, and why they should be looked at as a big chance to claim the national champs

10 of the 28 of the national squad are tied directly to northern academies, with 4 tied to the suns, including kalani white

Jeff needs to sit down with the young man and go over the pros/cons of the Dees and Suns

Only thing GC has over us is his support network (Fam, friends)

12 minutes ago, SthSea22 said:

Jeff needs to sit down with the young man and go over the pros/cons of the Dees and Suns

Only thing GC has over us is his support network (Fam, friends)

He will make 44 friends at the Dees instantly, when he joins them as a Demon player.

21 hours ago, Ghostwriter said:

YES!

That's is what matters to bring him to our club.

2 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

rookie me central has a rundown of the allies 2025 squad, and why they should be looked at as a big chance to claim the national champs

10 of the 28 of the national squad are tied directly to northern academies, with 4 tied to the suns, including kalani white

where'd you get 10 from?  i only counted 7 (4-GC, 1-BL, 2-SS)

On 03/12/2024 at 12:07, whatwhat say what said:

if we tried this you know we'd be busted, stripped of picks for the next decade, and be forced to trade every player on more than $500k a year for pennies against the pound

gc17 have at least four academy selections in in 2025, including two rated top 5 in the draft, and if they make finals they're only eligible to pick two of them

it is hard to picture kalani as a priority for them over the likes of zeke uwland, beau addinsall, and dylan patterson

…. I guess they will figure “why can’t we have them all?”

On 03/12/2024 at 15:42, Mickey said:

Pies and Lions did something similar with Daicos and the Ashcrofts. AFL changed it so you need to wait until rnd 6 to formalise it, but it's not against the rules.

LIONS IN LEVI TALKS

NEGOTIATIONS continue on an agreement for father-son prospect Levi Ashcroft, with the AFL's new rules and uplift in total player payments making it potentially a landmark deal for an undrafted player.

As previously done with the likes of Collingwood's Nick Daicos, Essendon's Joe Daniher and Ashcroft's older brother Will at Brisbane, father-son prospects are able to essentially agree to longer contracts than the AFL's standardised first deals when they commit to nominating as a father-son in their draft campaign.

Daicos, in 2021, and Will Ashcroft the following season, both agreed to two extra years with their respective clubs as four-year deals, worth approximately $550,000-$600,000 in the third and fourth years. Daicos has since had his deal extended to be close to $1 million a season through to his free agency at the end of 2029.

The AFL's changed rules last year as part of the new collective bargaining agreement mean that top-20 picks are now locked in on initial three-year deals and that extensions can't officially be lodged and approved until after round six the following year. 

However, 'handshake agreements' can be discussed, with the younger Ashcroft situation looming as a test case for the game's era of 'new money'.

Expect a one off rule change 😡

23 hours ago, Redleg said:

All the Carlton players in the light blue M and M  jumper some years ago looked pretty rank.

If possible, they looked even worse in those beige pajamas.  Seriously, in either of these, how could anyone sing with any heart or commitment, “we are the navy blues”?

5 hours ago, Redleg said:

He will make 44 friends at the Dees instantly, when he joins them as a Demon player.

How about 70,000 friends. 

4 minutes ago, monoccular said:

…. how about 70,000 friends. 

Yes, I was thinking of the players on the list, but 70000 is a better number.

3 hours ago, daisycutter said:

where'd you get 10 from?  i only counted 7 (4-GC, 1-BL, 2-SS)

This para from the first link:

Furthermore, 10 members of the 28-man National Academy are tied to the Allies in 2025.

4 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

This para from the first link:

Furthermore, 10 members of the 28-man National Academy are tied to the Allies in 2025.

you didn't say "allies",  you said "northern academies"

 

I'll do the honours here which is the article by Dan Batten on Code Sports. 

Dees or Suns? Famous Melbourne name opens up on ‘tough’ call

Kalani remains torn on which club to choose, but the laid-back youngster won’t be rushing his decision. 

“I’m not too sure (when I will decide), just whenever I sort of feel like it,” White said.

“It’s a bit hard because I’ve got my mum’s sister down here and a few of my dad’s old teammates. I’ve stayed with Kynan (Brown) for a bit and I had such a good time with their family when I was with them in the middle (of) this year,” White said.

“Also got so much more family up on the Gold Coast, but I’ve been there my whole life. But I was born in Melbourne and moved straight up after Dad retired. It’s going to be a pretty tough decision.”

The key position utility – who Jeff said has grown to 6’7” (204 centimetre), nine centimetres taller than his dad – has been moulded by the Suns in their academy since under-16s with plenty of his school mates.

Kalani has worked with the Suns’ AFL side through the academy and has another athletic Suns marvel Mac Andrew in his corner.

However, Kalani trained with Melbourne for two weeks before the Christmas break with an AFL Academy camp sandwiched in between.

He spent some time during the year with the Demons’ father-son program and he has built a friendship with fellow father-son Kynan Brown, the son of Jeff’s teammate Nathan.

Complicating matters is the fact Gold Coast already has potential No.1 pick Zeke Uwland, U17 futures game medal-winner Beau Addinsall and U16 All Australian Dylan Patterson available to them in 2025 with revised father-son and academy rules set to make matching bids tougher.

All of this is a lot a 17-year-old to take in. 

Jeff told SEN in August that he will have no say on his son’s decision.

“For him it is a big decision to make (between the Dees and Suns). It is not me, all of it is him. He is in a fortunate position where he can make the choice and he has just got to enjoy the journey,” Jeff said.

Brisbane father-son draftee Levi Ashcroft, who started his footy journey at Kalani’s local club Broadbeach, has given him some valuable advice.

White isn’t as highly-touted as No.5 pick Ashcroft, but the prolific midfielder had to make his own father-son call – albeit a very simple one with his brother, Will, already at the club.

But like White, Levi had connections to both Queensland and Victoria, having lived in Melbourne since he was 12.

“Drafted to Fremantle and then made his way over to the Melbourne Football Club. He’s been an unreal part of my life and so has my family, my brothers – my two twin brothers – and my mum.

“He just said go out there and play footy. Just go out there and have fun just like you were in under nines.

“He’s running an AI thing at the moment where you can just ask the AI any questions and it’ll give you all these type of footy drills, and it’s unreal. He’s going gone really well at the moment.”

Then there is another half a dozen first-round draftees who have taken him under their wing during his time at Melbourne and Gold Coast – Koltyn Tholstrup, Jacob van Rooyen, Mac Andrew, Jed Walter and Ethan Read. 

“(Jacob is) a good fella, he helped me out in the gym, helped me on the track as well. Also, I reckon Luker Kentfield as well, so I’ve been staying with him and Koltyn Tholstrup,” White said.

“Bit of Mac Andrew, because sort of similar players. He’s just been unreal, and bit of Jed Walter, Ethan Read as well, more of those taller forwards. They have been really good to me.

“I’ve also trained with the Gold Coast Suns as well and they’ve got unreal facilities as well, but Melbourne’s just unreal and it’s just all the players that play at the highest level and just get to learn off that.” 

ANOTHER nothingburger of an article

no mention that if the suns make finals they can only take two academy picks

Going to be hard for the Suns to fit them all in

7 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

ANOTHER nothingburger of an article

no mention that if the suns make finals they can only take two academy picks

Hmmm, ok - just asking for a friend, what's the ascending version of a deathride?

20 minutes ago, gs77 said:

Hmmm, ok - just asking for a friend, what's the ascending version of a deathride?

glow up?

55 minutes ago, gs77 said:

Hmmm, ok - just asking for a friend, what's the ascending version of a deathride?

A sweet ride?

1 hour ago, gs77 said:

Hmmm, ok - just asking for a friend, what's the ascending version of a deathride?

#joyride

Magic carpet ride

white freak off

My god Gold Coast could be unbeatable soon

12 hours ago, Wizard of Koz said:

white freak off

The White Album

Pretty sure he is just playing the game with the GC here. Look it may be genuine but….
 

Let’s say he made the choice to come to the Dees 2 years ago - GC would kick him out of the academy right? So his only option is to keep his options open right to the end.