I have a question

[Skuit 10,031]

Gawn is not a fad. He was Ned way before it was cool.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Just because you are going transgender (for the moment) it doesn't mean you can adopt the high moral ground!!

Good luck with the op Biff.

[Deestroy All 14,266]

Wasn't this question answered in 2009?

[deanox 9,915]

I was under the impression it was related to adrenalin management.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,754]

I was under the impression it was related to adrenalin management.

I have also heard this claimed...but don't believe it.

[DubDee 25,862]

coming off after kicking a goal is ridiculous. interchange the mids when a goal is kicked but the bloke who just kicked a goal might actually be fired up and have a purple patch

this is part of the reason we no longer see guys kicking 4 in a quarter too much. form and confidence is massive for forwards. e.g. Hogan kicks a gioal 5 mins in and come off. Dees win the next clearance and kick inside fifty to who? just friggen crazy

[jnrmac 20,065]

Firstly, my apologies if this is addressed elsewhere.

Can anyone please explain to me the rational behind benching a goal kicker after they have scored? Over the las few weeks I have been wat5ching replays of a number of games and I just cannot see the effectiveness of this.

It is not just melbourne it is all clubs that are doing it.

Last night I watched a replay of the St Kilda game and after Hogan had kicked a goal he wa benched and did not look happy about it.



If a fwd runs off the ground it leaves us exposed if the ball goes down there. Hence when a goal is scored the opportunity for a fwd to go off the ground is there without disadvantaging the side.

[Jumping Jack Clennett 1,797]

I think we would gain a small advantage over all other clubs if we abandoned this lazy tactic.

( I call it " lazy" because it's the easiest time to do rotations,due to the extended stoppage time)

A player who has just kicked a goal is on a confidence " high"..... I think he's in good head space to take a big grab or snap another goal. Nowadays, he dashes 100m to the bench( which puffs him out), sits down, and the "high" abates.

All those coaches should be able to arrange rotations without removing fresh forwards from the field.

We shouldn't do it just because all the others do it.

I remember a Port game( not v. Melb) years ago, when Tredrea was marking absolutely everything in the first quarter. He had 4 goals up in the first 15 min. They then rested him for ten minutes. He didn't get any more goals. I remember thinking, " if they lose this by about a goal, it's BECAUSE they took him off when he was unstoppable." ( as it turned out , they won easily, but they weren't to know that early on)

[Dr. Gonzo 24,216]

Akum, Most likely right, But I am sure the Ned Kelly beards will last longer than this fad.

Too right, they've been around for close to 150 years already

[ManDee 7,147]

How about rest the forwards when the other side kicks a goal?

[Forest Demon 4,681]

I was under the impression it was related to adrenalin management.

Surely this isn't a thing?

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,754]

How about rest the forwards when the other side kicks a goal?

I'm glad you didn't suggest this in 2012 or 2013. Our forwards would hardly ever get on the park.

[CHF 2,738]

Seems like no one can give a convincing answer.

Personally I think it is foolish to pull them off after a goal. The team is pumped after scoring a goal and the kicker is up and running. if anyone can get an answer for a coach, let me knwo.



[Skuit 10,031]

As mentioned, I sought an answer from an NEAFL coach (and extended family member). Response sounded like nonsense and I'm not sure he believed it. But didn't check to see if he partakes himself.

[barneymfc 152]

your playing to well you better have a spell on the bench,how dumb is that

[Akum 2,660]

Seems like no one can give a convincing answer.

Personally I think it is foolish to pull them off after a goal. The team is pumped after scoring a goal and the kicker is up and running. ...



Who pulls them off and pumps the team after scoring a goal?

Is that why we run out of steam halfway thru a quarter?

[WhyAlwaysMe 237]

get used to it, its a good chance interchange will only be available after goals next year

[deanox 9,915]

Surely this isn't a thing?

My understanding was that it was related to mitigating the higher risk of injuries associated with elevated adrenalin.

BUT:

The article is a few years old but relevant.

http://m.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/give-goal-kickers-a-break-on-strategy/story-e6frepf6-1226390013514

"Champion Data stats reveal that of the 2342 goals kicked in the first 10 rounds of the season, players ran to the interchange bench a combined 246 times.

That's only 10.5 per cent.

Melbourne is the club that uses the rotation-after-goal tactic the most. Its players have run to the bench after 15.1 per cent of its majors.

Port Adelaide has the lowest, with 6.6 per cent."

[CHF 2,738]

Thanks deanox.

Interesting that we are the highest uses of this rotation. I wonder where the stats are that support the 'elevated adrenalin' risk factor.

[Cards13 9,117]

Thanks deanox.

Interesting that we are the highest uses of this rotation. I wonder where the stats are that support the 'elevated adrenalin' risk factor.

Is that because in 2012 we had kicked the least number of goals to that point in the season so had to use that rest period more often?

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,754]

Is that because in 2012 we had kicked the least number of goals to that point in the season so had to use that rest period more often?

It's more likely just a statistical aberration caused by the number of goals being very low. That low number of goals effectively becomes the denominator in the fraction that calculates the percentage and bingo, a large number appears. Or, to put it another way...lies, damned lies and statistics.

[jnrmac 20,065]

Seems like no one can give a convincing answer.

Personally I think it is foolish to pull them off after a goal. The team is pumped after scoring a goal and the kicker is up and running. if anyone can get an answer for a coach, let me knwo.



Gee I thought I gave you the answer. Wasn't trying to convince you. Just tell it like it is.