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We need both.

Our terrible transition from midfield to the forward line is only partially a midfield problem. Our forward line needs a clever lead up general forward as an alternative to hitting up Hogan. Hopefully Jesse wouldn't need to drift so far from goal to chase kicks when we are defending.

Hawthorn rely on three medium forwards in a multi pronged attack rather than the old two kpf, third tall and crumbers set up. Makes for a more versatile, dangerous set up.

We do still need to get in better ball users and decision makers as well.

Agree, at the moment we're playing kids like Bradshaw, ANB & Harmes or nqr's like Jones & Bail. They're all working as defensive forwards first and foremost so we have no one apart from Hogan & Garlett setting up as attacking forwards, creating the play.

We need more play makers.

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Tom Lynch is the perfect kind of player to get the best out of Hoges.

He is the lmarking ink man that will allow Hogan to stay deep and will take a good defender out of the backline.

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Ideally we want mobile mid-tall forward bit of strength and strong leading patterns. This guy seems to fit that profile. It then lets you play a second ruckman in the forward pocket, would like to see a forward structure like this

Garlett Hogan Second Ruckman

Kent Lynch Watts

2 tall mobile targets that work from 50-50, speed a good strong forward close to goal and the long get out with a tall ruckman. We need someone that can be that second ruckman, using dawes is a waste of time, we are now robbing our backline by using MacDonald as that second ruck.

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We need both.

Our terrible transition from midfield to the forward line is only partially a midfield problem. Our forward line needs a clever lead up general forward as an alternative to hitting up Hogan. Hopefully Jesse wouldn't need to drift so far from goal to chase kicks when we are defending.

Hawthorn rely on three medium forwards in a multi pronged attack rather than the old two kpf, third tall and crumbers set up. Makes for a more versatile, dangerous set up.

We do still need to get in better ball users and decision makers as well.

Well, they do that because that's all they've got. If they still had Buddy, they'd have a two pronged KPF forwardline. But that's Clarkson's genius and the sign of a coach that updates his game style to suit his team.

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Ideally we want mobile mid-tall forward bit of strength and strong leading patterns. This guy seems to fit that profile. It then lets you play a second ruckman in the forward pocket, would like to see a forward structure like this

Garlett Hogan Second Ruckman

Kent Lynch Watts

2 tall mobile targets that work from 50-50, speed a good strong forward close to goal and the long get out with a tall ruckman. We need someone that can be that second ruckman, using dawes is a waste of time, we are now robbing our backline by using MacDonald as that second ruck.

Well, with the sub rule likely to go, we do need to play another ruckman. Gawn struggles to play out three quarters, let alone four.

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Well, they do that because that's all they've got. If they still had Buddy, they'd have a two pronged KPF forwardline. But that's Clarkson's genius and the sign of a coach that updates his game style to suit his team.

Probably. It has been notable that Roughy has spent a lot of time as a big bodied mid, so even the key position sized forward they still have hasn't been playing exclusively as a forward. Also notable that Buddy and Tippett have struggled to gel in the same forward line.

I think those medium size players that can take a grab, but still be highly effective on the ground are going to become more and more valuable. Dogs are using this set up pretty well at the moment too.

Lynch, Watts and Petracca supporting Hogan would give us a pretty good facsimile of what the Hawks and Dogs have put together.

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Probably. It has been notable that Roughy has spent a lot of time as a big bodied mid, so even the key position sized forward they still have hasn't been playing exclusively as a forward. Also notable that Buddy and Tippett have struggled to gel in the same forward line.

I think those medium size players that can take a grab, but still be highly effective on the ground are going to become more and more valuable. Dogs are using this set up pretty well at the moment too.

Lynch, Watts and Petracca supporting Hogan would give us a pretty good facsimile of what the Hawks and Dogs have put together.

Some good points so if we have offered him 4 years what do we do with Dawes next year?

I can't honestly think of another team that would want him.


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Some good points so if we have offered him 4 years what do we do with Dawes next year?

I can't honestly think of another team that would want him.

No they won't. His weak right knee will mean that we won't get anything of worth - his bad form earlier in the year also makes it implausible.

He will be a Demon in 2016.

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Crows demands will start as Toumpas and our first rounder. If we can negotiate it down to Toumpas and our second rounder for Lynch and their third rounder I'd do it in a heartbeat.

He's a very good player.

Ah I'm having Heart Flutters!!

yep

What about Howe in this mix??

Yep got my vote!

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Some good points so if we have offered him 4 years what do we do with Dawes next year?

I can't honestly think of another team that would want him.

Casey...

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Casey...

And what a message that would send. If we could secure Lynch early in the piece, tell Dawes its in his best interest to find another club or he's played his last game of AFL.

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Casey...

Pfft!! Not even Casey would want him...

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Well it might just mean his manager is shopping him to get his price up, and his preferred destination is Melbourne. Player managers play a lot of games with lowly clubs like Melbourne because they know they hold all the cards.

Of course, Sunday didn't help the situation in the slightest.

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Pfft!! Not even Casey would want him...

Well if we were to land Lynch, and the sub is scrapped I'd have Pedo on the bench with 3 mids.

Kent Lynch Petracca

Watts Hogan Garlett

The interesting one is, they know how much Dawes has left to run on his contract. It could be as little as 150k(I'm hoping it's about that). I can't see them playing Dawes with 3 talls already.

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What they will have to pay to select their academy players'. We won't loose a chance to draft kids that are available to us.

Tom Lynch is not a KPF, but he is a leading target (and compared to Dawes, he definitely would not be a backward step. Finds way more of the ball too). The only problem we would have, re: Dawes, is that we may well have to pay some of his contract if we are to release him early (he is on quite a bit).

I wonder if Bucks is interested in a mature body, who can aid in Cloke finding some space. atmo cloke is choking. he was at his best, when msr Dawes was in the side.

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there's every chance that dawes has a year left in him.

he's crocked.

this could well be why lynch is a priority.

I think we are starting to clear out our current 27+ yr olds, who are fringe... & replace with younger or class.

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