Then I take it you think it was a good idea that we threw two young kids to the wolves as joint Captains?

Name for me the leaders we had at our club at that point, Mr Revisionist, and then name for me the long list of big bodied premiership players that were queuing to join melbourne. Then we might see who is slow on the uptake.

When did I say one word about Grimes or Trengove?

You're making things up and then attacking your figments of imagination.

You are being unfair Biff. In my experience, such a result is just as likely in an Asian Brothel. Daisycutter's input could be definitive in this instance.

Also, SWYL has frequent trips to the Philippines and of course OD goes to Bangkok for "dental work" . Plenty of input to come

I will see you in court

can you two old farts take it somewhere else?

Arhhh no younger fart

can you two old farts take it somewhere else?

Settle down Song - it's only a Chris Dawes thread we're hijacking.

The reality is that a bottom team to attract any player will always pay over... This occurred with Dawes but very harsh comments on the guy.. I doubt. Most forwards would struggle with the lack of quality ball coming .. Yes he's not a great overhead mark & his goal ratio is not great ... Just can't keep on clearing the decks gotta retain the fabric of a team & build around him ...

can you two old farts take it somewhere else?

Yes go to a private chat room please

I never understood why we got him in the first place.

Even when he was at C'wood it was clear he was not a good mark. (And he's gotten worse.)

He was going to be a big lump who takes the oppo's best or second best defender, makes a contest and brings the ball to ground.

Pedo can do that. Even Ben Holland used to be able to do that.

Why pay such big bikkies for such a player? We could have had three for the price.

Really? Did you try really hard to think why we would want a big bodied premiership player when we had Grimes and Trengive as Captains. And once you have answered that question please list the other premiership players that were queuing to com eto melbourne during that period.

There's a good boy now...

Then I take it you think it was a good idea that we threw two young kids to the wolves as joint Captains?

Name for me the leaders we had at our club at that point, Mr Revisionist, and then name for me the long list of big bodied premiership players that were queuing to join melbourne. Then we might see who is slow on the uptake.

Let me make the writing big for you. It says it all really That you don't know why we got Dawes in the first place and then go and criticise why we got him.

Dawes is in the team to provide continuity after the loss of Brad Miller.

'Something kind of like a CHF but without great nous, and making little contribution to actually attacking'.

With Dawes, he is great at climbing 3/4 of the way up a ladder, but struggles to go any further.

Last year he at least harassed and laid some big tackles, and was a bit of a presence up forward, even if he did have the rubber gloves on. This year, he has provided next to nothing. Horrible form and Pedo should now be in front of him.

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Let me make the writing big for you. It says it all really That you don't know why we got Dawes in the first place and then go and criticise why we got him.

So let me (try to) follow the confused logic ...

We felt bad about making Grimes and Trengove captains at such a young age so we thought we'd better get one of those big bodied premiership players that are always lining up at the doors of every other club but then didn't make him captain which meant that the inexperienced blokes were still captains.

Yes, I don't understand why we laid out big bikkies for Dawes of all players and I am criticising that we got him. So well done.

Probably recruited him cos hes a choirboy off the field.

Why would we ever recruit shady characters? I mean its not like Lance Franklin, Dustin Martin, Wayne Carey, Ben Cousins, Jordan Lewis, Allen Jakovich, Daniel Kerr, Dane Swan, Jason Akermanis etc etc could play footy

What annoys me about Dawes is how he thinks he has to run out every game right next to Nathan Jones as if he is some sort of co Captain. Let jonesy lead the side out FFS Dawesy!

Probably recruited him cos hes a choirboy off the field.

Why would we ever recruit shady characters? I mean its not like Lance Franklin, Dustin Martin, Wayne Carey, Ben Cousins, Jordan Lewis, Allen Jakovich, Daniel Kerr, Dane Swan, Jason Akermanis etc etc could play footy

That's the problem with footy these days. The actual game is just a small part of their week. That infuriates fans of clubs who've languished at the bottom for ages, when you don't hear enough about the importance of winning. You hear endless praise of players who are mature and train well such as Dawes, then no criticism for what they're meant to be paid to do

It's weird how he had some beastly good games last year coming off an injury, but this year he's had an injury-free preseason and is in absolutely horrendous form.

It's weird how he had some beastly good games last year coming off an injury, but this year he's had an injury-free preseason and is in absolutely horrendous form.

Just goes to show how poor he is at the moment. His first month last year he was fantastic.

Where the firetruck has that Dawes gone? The one we are stuck with at the moment makes Lucas Cook look like an inspired choice

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It's weird how he had some beastly good games last year coming off an injury, but this year he's had an injury-free preseason and is in absolutely horrendous form.

And he went to the trouble of telling the media that due to his great pre season it will translate into a good year for him.

Do yourself a favour Dawesy. Shut your trap until you actually have some form behind you.

He needs to start pushing guys around and making his presence felt, he needs to get creative like Hogan as he should know by now he won't get it served up to him playing at Melbourne with Toumpas, bail and co playing in the midfield

He needs to start pushing guys around and making his presence felt, he needs to get creative like Hogan as he should know by now he won't get it served up to him playing at Melbourne with Toumpas, bail and co playing in the midfield

It's not that creative, he does 2 among other things very well.

Leads up at the ball and works to make a contest.

It's not that creative, he does 2 among other things very well.

Leads up at the ball and works to make a contest.

And for that he gets $700 000 PA?

Dawes is an integral part of this club.

Must play every week.

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And for that he gets $700 000 PA?

od, this old chestnut?

You don't know his salary.

Needs to be dropped as a warning to pick up his game, and find some form.

If it's good enough for Grimes and Watts it's good enough for Dawes.

It's fine to drop mark if you smash your knee into an opponent head/ back and you land on another one as you tap the ball left or right but he is just a clutz.

Dawes is an integral part of this club.

Must play every week.

That shows how far down the mine we still are if there is no one better.

That shows how far down the mine we still are if there is no one better.

Correct.

Did you think anything differently?

That's the reality.