Moonshadow 17,678 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 The tail is wagging the dog over at Whitten Oval it appears.How does that effect our trading of 2 or 3? Will Griff stay?
Chook 15,088 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 When players are sacking coaches, you know things have gone too far.
InVINCEable 358 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 The tail is wagging the dog over at Whitten Oval it appears. How does that effect our trading of 2 or 3? Will Griff stay? I don't know if he'll stay, but if I was Bulldogs, i'd tell Griffen where to go.
Slartibartfast 18,125 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Neeld, Watters, Sanderson and now McCartney. All rookie coaches from 2012 onward. And they all missed HInkley. What on earth is going on.......
Straight Sets Simon 23,113 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Neeld, Watters, Sanderson and now McCartney. All rookie coaches from 2012 onward. And they all missed HInkley. What on earth is going on....... The wrong people are doing the hiring or they are looking for the wrong type of person to be coach.
InVINCEable 358 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Yep he's been sacked according to trade radio
John Crow Batty 8,895 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 The wrong people are doing the hiring or they are looking for the wrong type of person to be coach. Thats because they put too much weight on reflected success, corporate speak spin and glossy powerpoint presentations. The people hiring should look deeper into the individual qualities. I am sure there are potentially great assistant coaches wallowing away at unsuccessful clubs who just need the right opportunity but likely never will. Bulldogs fell into the trap in thinking because he was at Geelong he must be good just like us with Neeld and also Sanderson. Reflected success seems to be a mandatory qualification at some clubs.
praha 11,274 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Neeld, Watters, Sanderson and now McCartney. All rookie coaches from 2012 onward. And they all missed HInkley. What on earth is going on....... Neeld had the right vision and direction, but was just a bad people person. His vision to bring in experience and install discipline and defensive strategies is not all that different to what Roos is trying to do.
Goodvibes 3,596 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 I'm waiting for the first club to appoint a 25 year old career coach who hasn't played at the highest level but can relate and communicate effectively with his or her players.
The Song Formerly Known As 6,479 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Neeld had the right vision and direction, but was just a bad people person. His vision to bring in experience and install discipline and defensive strategies is not all that different to what Roos is trying to do. Yup, his ideas and philosophys were/are very similar to Roosys. Neeld's delivery of them was what lead to his downfall.
John Crow Batty 8,895 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Neeld had the right vision and direction, but was just a bad people person. His vision to bring in experience and install discipline and defensive strategies is not all that different to what Roos is trying to do. A coach who despite possessing admirable football qualities but cannot connect with players or master the local politics has Buckley's chance of being successful. That asks the question to who's next in line?
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 10, 2014 Author Posted October 10, 2014 Never fails......the Footy kiss of death.. One week the Club comes out firmly behind someone ,then next week knife 'em !!
rpfc 29,044 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 A coach who despite possessing admirable football qualities but cannot connect with players or master the local politics has Buckley's chance of being successful. That asks the question to who's next in line? Maybe the answer is in the line before the question...
Bombay Airconditioning 6,510 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Being part of a stable club.....this is the life.
Ron Burgundy 8,588 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Neeld, Watters, Sanderson and now McCartney. All rookie coaches from 2012 onward. And they all missed HInkley. What on earth is going on....... Anyone still think the succession plan is a bad idea? I suspect Goodwin doesn't ...
jnrmac 20,392 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 A coach who despite possessing admirable football qualities but cannot connect with players or master the local politics has Buckley's chance of being successful. That asks the question to who's next in line? Did you say Buckley??
Lucifers Hero 40,756 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Neeld, Watters, Sanderson and now McCartney. All rookie coaches from 2012 onward. And they all missed HInkley. What on earth is going on....... The 'Peter Principle' lives on!!
John Crow Batty 8,895 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Maybe the answer is in the line before the question... I wonder how much longer Eddie can stick up for his mate? Those two are so far up each that it would be impossible to surgically seperate them. They both will go together.
binman 44,900 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Oh the irony. Gordon saying about Griffin that a contract is a contract and he expects him to honor it at a presser where he is announcing the sacking of their contracted coach. And no one followed up with that observation or a related question (eg you don't see a contradiction????) #clubs can't have it both ways
jazza 1,323 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 So couldnt communicate with the players=Lack of twitter expertise?
WERRIDEE 5,646 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Neeld had the right vision and direction, but was just a bad people person. His vision to bring in experience and install discipline and defensive strategies is not all that different to what Roos is trying to do. Rubbish. He had no idea what he was doing and this is coming from his very own daughter. What defensive strategies we leaked goals?
Pates 9,697 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 This is out of control. I know we're one of the perennial offenders on sacking coaches, but Sando, McCartney, and McKenna are all coaches that have been given the flick with years left on their contracts and still fair to say that they are learning their craft as a coach. Griffen has really stitched him up here, he gave him his support and then decided to request a trade to GWS on the back of what I would imagine is some good coin. When are clubs going to actually back their coaches in? And when are they going to stop letting the players have such a big say? I agree that there should be feedback from player to coach, but was he really given a chance to implement those changes? The Dogs have been on a slow incline, what they've done will likely set them back as they will probably start again with a rookie coach who has to win his players (shouldn't it be the other way around?) and from what I can see there isn't a whole lot of upside that will propel them up the ladder like a Port Adelaide. There was a recent report on it but how much money has been flushed down the drain due to early termination of coaches? I also liked the comment from the Dogs CEO saying "Griffen is contracted and we expect him to honour that contract", well they went into their review saying why should we keep him rather than how can we help him and the club get better? The state the comp is in now is just unbelievable.
ILLDieADemon 804 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Good to see it's not our club in the media this off season.
Sir Why You Little 37,499 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 You wonder how long the Dogs will survive in Melbourne when players call the shots. The only thing Peter Gordon said i totally agreed with was that Free Agency will kill bottom clubs. It is happening out there. Even without an 8 year career there players are walking... We must draft to win games next year. Not in 3 years...
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