Jesse Hogan Injury Update?

[DeeSpencer 23,642]

Not concerned. Got all of next year to worry about first.

I wouldn't sign a contract until I was on the field playing, that's reasonable to me.

I'd also stay in Melbourne, under Roos, with a team on the rise, playing with Chris Dawes and not having the burden of replacing Pav.

[Tyson_Viney_Toumpas 269]

Cannot see Freo giving up a young established star, plus a first round pick for a kid with no games under his belt and back problems.

They are very desperate for a young key forward, midfielders like Fyfe are replaceable

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

Get over it SS.

This the AFL world of the 21st century and it will only get worse.

Learn to live with it or you will go insane.

Not at all, i think SS is on the money.

We took the kid early, have waited for him and given him everything he needs. He can at least give us a 2 year extension to see if he likes playing the style of MFC football after more than one season.

Could still leave as a 22-23 year old then. God forbid.

It is the 21st century but that doesn't mean personal morals and ethics go out the window. For everybody anyways.

[Ted Lasso 17,313]

Sassy see my comment to SS above.

You need to get a grip on the 21st century AFL.

If he goes he goes I am over worrying about these things

Sorry OD, but it being the 21st century has no bearing on the fact we have done alot of the young man, shown a huge amount of faith and it would be very dissapointing if he was to walk first chance anyway.

[Dockett 32 1,213]

What have you got there OD? Something nice from the Coonawarra perhaps?

Oh and the end up with Patton thing to make any Hogan thing fly sounds ok too!

[bing181 8,357]

Sassy: No, however, the club is aware that Roos is looking at MFC as a long term commitment (assuming board and administration perform professionally). If all is good he will either continue as coach or as Director of Football long after his current contract expires..

Thanks for the info.

More important that Roos stays than Hogan does.

Though having both would be the ideal outcome ...

Just think we have to wait and see re Hogan. A lot of water to go under that bridge, and having managed to get Roos against all the odds, I'd be happy to give us a more than sporting chance of keeping Hogan.

And Dunn.

[old dee 23,256]

What have you got there OD? Something nice from the Coonawarra perhaps?

Oh and the end up with Patton thing to make any Hogan thing fly sounds ok too!

How does a St Hallett Gamekeepers Shiraz sound?

[beelzebub 22,716]

How does a St Hallett Gamekeepers Shiraz sound?

thats rubbish pass it over .I'll save you the hideous sufferance.....true dinks !!!

[old dee 23,256]

thats rubbish pass it over .I'll save you the hideous sufferance.....true dinks !!!

one mans feast is another mans famine bb.

Good for a monday night having a glass right now.

hits the spot!

[beelzebub 22,716]

one mans feast is another mans famine bb.

Good for a monday night having a glass right now.

hits the spot!

damn....hoping I could con you on that one

[monoccular 16,630]

Hogan, who has not played this season due to a back injury, will return to Perth for a couple of weeks as he rests before resuming his active rehabilitation according to the club.

Is that a good idea to sit on a plane for 3 hours with a back injury. I get the club probably want him to get away from there and be around his family but wouldnt that make it worse.

3 hrs on a Melbourne Perth flight with a bad back is quite manageable.

Would be a pretty dog act, IMO, for Hogan to jump ship at the end of 2015. I know footy's just a business these days and these players don't have the same emotional attachment to the club that we do, but come on... I'd hate him more than Scully if he walked.

I was thinking more along the Scott Thompson saga - carried him on our list, paid for his treatment ?long term ankle or foot problem - got a mere handful of games then arriverduci !!!

[Dockett 32 1,213]

I trust you be able to progress beyond "a glass". Very good for your cholesterol

[Dockett 32 1,213]

I trust you be able to progress beyond "a glass". Very good for your cholesterol

[old dee 23,256]

Sorry OD, but it being the 21st century has no bearing on the fact we have done alot of the young man, shown a huge amount of faith and it would be very dissapointing if he was to walk first chance anyway.

The simple fact is Sassy that the players union wants free agency. They have a limited version now but are pushing for an early arrival time.

Their ultimate goal if total free agency. They will get it eventually over the next decade.

We are now in the early stages.

Prepare your self for the day when loyalty from either side means little.

the AFL world of the next decade will be far different from the one most of us grew up with.

[Travis Boots 157]

Always feared Hogan would go. I'd like to think that IF it is to happen freo will offer a fair trade seeing as Roos and Ross are close friends.

[old dee 23,256]

3 hrs on a Melbourne Perth flight with a bad back is quite manageable.

I was thinking more along the Scott Thompson saga - carried him on our list, paid for his treatment ?long term ankle or foot problem - got a mere handful of games then arriverduci !!!

There will be a increasing degree of this over the next ten years.

the talent pool is stretched too far so the talented players will use this to their advantage.

The other side of course is that clubs replace players much more now with reduced care for the individual.

It cuts both ways.

[binman 39,491]

Totally agree Old Dee.

All effort must go into resigning Dunn. He is now in our top 5. Considering how long we have waited for him to come good, it would be a tragedy to lose him.

I mostly agree. The only point of difference is that i reckon he was great for us last year and even the year before was pretty good, so in my view he has been delivering for some time now.

As i have said before i reckon he has long been our most underrated player and over the last 3 years is our most consistent player outside of Jones. Also must manage his body well as has hardly missed a game through injury.

[old dee 23,256]

Always feared Hogan would go. I'd like to think that IF it is to happen freo will offer a fair trade seeing as Roos and Ross are close friends.

Forget the Friends crap.

Their livelihoods depend on results there will be no sweet heart deals if it comes to trading.

[beelzebub 22,716]

Forget the Friends crap.

Their livelihoods depend on results there will be no sweet heart deals if it comes to trading.

yep....means sfa

[dbj1983 138]

My information is that he is happy at the club and likes living in Melbourne. Would be surprised if he wanted to leave the club given he hasn't played a game for us.

Wouldn't be surprised if he extends by the end of this year as a sign of good faith!

[Dockett 32 1,213]

More and more like playing chess re anticipation and being a few steps ahead. I'm a very poor chess player by the way but I think our ex Collingwood man and Todd have done ok so far.

[markc 975]

he seemed fine when I spoke to him

I asked him about being away from family and how he liked it here in Melbourne

really he answered as we would all hope , I walked away happy but what else would you expect

He was happy to talk and he sat down with my wife and I

this was over 6 months ago so anything can happen I guess

my money would be on him staying but I don't bet

all I would like to see now, if he plays this year

I have to say now with us having a win ( crows) and playing better I myself are enjoying AFL again

Edited May 12, 2014 by markc

[Bitter but optimistic 21,580]

Not at all, i think SS is on the money.

We took the kid early, have waited for him and given him everything he needs. He can at least give us a 2 year extension to see if he likes playing the style of MFC football after more than one season.

Could still leave as a 22-23 year old then. God forbid.

It is the 21st century but that doesn't mean personal morals and ethics go out the window. For everybody anyways.

Never concerned myself with such things Song? Do they help? Do they provide better wine?

[binman 39,491]

Machby: true he is not a FA and he will provide a significant trade in return, but if he asks to be traded to Freo, MFC will trade him.

Surely GNF we would only trade with Freo if they could come up with the right deal (which you reckon they would try hard to do given their need for a forward). Yes the dees get nothing if they force him into the PSD but still we would want to get a decent return. Is your confidence we would trade him to Freo if that's what he wants based on a feeling they would come to the table with a decent offer?

I can't see them giving up Fyfe but jeez there's not much point us taking say a pick 20 and a b grader and being a push over. If he did want to return to WA - even if he is fixed on getting to Freo - we could offer him to WC and create some sort of leverage.

Edit: blimey talking about this makes me feel ill in retrospect. Surely we are due some luck with a forward gun. Imagine Ben Hur's reaction to this discussion!

Edited May 12, 2014 by binman

[SaberFang 7,141]

Relax, the kid hasn't played a game yet and the last thing he needs on his mind is contract negotiations. The club is doing the right thing for him mentally by focusing on his health and not the status of his contract.

By all accounts Roosy and the club have done everything they can to make Jesse and his family feel part of the club. If he still decides to go, there's not much we can do except bend Fremantle over a barrel. We hold all the cards in any scenario where he wants to leave.

I think he'll re-sign, FWIW. And that'll happen at the end of the year once Roosy commits to year three and they've decided who to let go from our current list.