On 28/03/2014 at 02:07, old dee said:

Just two comments Bossdog

Is it surprising that after seven years of crap performance that supporters get a bit upset?

I don't really care about injuries at other clubs

No it is not surprising, seven years is a long time to keep being told to be patient, especially when you consider it is 50 years since the last flag.

As a marker we should take note of injuries suffered at other clubs, the Eagles example is an excellent one, decimated last year, yet surely one of the most professionally run organisations going round, sometimes it's just kismet rather than gross mismanagement that's at the heart of the matter.

Agree that we have been suffering a long time, but at least you have had the opportunity to experience the ultimate.I will be 50 in early October and now feel I will never get that chance, just hope my kids do.

Video now on the MFC website detailing Jamar's injury struggles this year to date.

  On 28/03/2014 at 04:38, Machsy said:

Video now on the MFC website detailing Jamar's injury struggles this year to date.

Just watched it and it was terrific. Exhibit 1 in my argument for more transparency about injuries.

  On 28/03/2014 at 04:51, binman said:

Just watched it and it was terrific. Exhibit 1 in my argument for more transparency about injuries.

Agree. What is so difficult with that??

  On 28/03/2014 at 04:51, binman said:

Just watched it and it was terrific. Exhibit 1 in my argument for more transparency about injuries.

Just watched it and as interesting as it was to hear him speak, what did he really say that hadn't previously been said by the hated spin machine at the club?

  On 27/03/2014 at 23:47, Baghdad Bob said:

I don't mind Petterd's delisting, it was a reasonable call. What I find silly is that having been delisted many Demonlanders say that even fit he was no good and we are better without him.

Petterd, Moloney, Rivers and Bennell are now playing regular footy elsewhere, some with more certainty than others and some in better teams than others.

They'd sure as hell get a game with us.

yep Bennell has played 1 game for West Coast - in a row !!

About as regular as he got for us! Didn't play a game in 2013. Real regular.

Just sayin...

  On 28/03/2014 at 05:14, sue said:

Just watched it and as interesting as it was to hear him speak, what did he really say that hadn't previously been said by the hated spin machine at the club?

For a start i didn't know he did his hammy twice before XMAS and had previously not heard anything about a calf injury.

Also becasue he appeared to be honest i could trust that barring setbacks there is a reasonable chance that he might back by about round 5. If he doesn't? Well i'll know there's been a set back and i'm not going to be angry that he duped me.

  On 27/03/2014 at 22:44, rpfc said:

You have to make a judgement call on each of these players -

just this...and a judgement must be made on a few

"Richmond's Alex Rance will miss the next three weeks after breaking his foot after falling off his bike."

  On 28/03/2014 at 00:43, Machsy said:

I'm not sure what concussion rules you're referring to...

Did you make some up?

Before last season the AFL mooted introducing a rule where a player who suffered a concussion was automatically ruled out of the following weeks game. Perhaps they didn't implement it, I was under the assumption they did but I could be wrong.

No need to be a [censored] about it.

  On 28/03/2014 at 06:47, bing181 said:

"Richmond's Alex Rance will miss the next three weeks after breaking his foot after falling off his bike."

Forgot he was missing last night, Astbury did a good job I thought.

  On 28/03/2014 at 02:07, old dee said:

Just two comments Bossdog

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I don't really care about injuries at other clubs

Without information, what are opinions based on?

I know it'll be a long two months but let's just think of everything up until round 10 as training for our midfield group to gel with each other. Bythen we bloody well should have most of our talls back and we can start looking at the scoreboard.

Those 50/50s for McDonald and Fitz seem to be 100/0 for both according to the final team listed for us. Or are they lying to us again?

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2014-03-28/dees-make-no-change-for-round-two

  On 28/03/2014 at 00:50, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Webber, you know your stuff so some questions for you...is it correct that knee reconstructions are done (sometimes? always?) using a pice of tendon from the hamstring to replace the torn ligament? If this is the case, is it possible that Gawn's hamstring problem might be associated with what I would assume, perhaps incorrectly, is a weakening of the hamstring because of his knee reconstructions? And furthermore, is it possible that he doesn't necessarily have a tear in his hamstring at all but rather something associated with the tendonous rather than the muscular part of the hamstring?

Charge me your usual rate for this consultation, thanks.

Hamstring tendons are the preferred option, then there's 'LARS' (artificial), and cadaver grafts (yep, from dead dudes, or dudesses), which are becoming more popular, but have supply issues. The hamstring is not a problem, as the time taken for full rehab (9 months) of an ACL is more than enough to have hams compensatory growth. Maxy is a long way now from his surgery also. Re: tendon or muscle tear, tendon is more troubling, takes a lot longer to rehab, and less commonly an acute injury. It is more an overuse repetition injury. So, yes it's possible, but based on reports, very unlikely.

Happy to help LDC, account is in the mail.

  On 28/03/2014 at 08:07, Webber said:

cadaver grafts (yep, from dead dudes, or dudesses)

wow, how morbid - I didn't realise that was a thing

  On 28/03/2014 at 04:32, T-34 said:

No it is not surprising, seven years is a long time to keep being told to be patient, especially when you consider it is 50 years since the last flag.

As a marker we should take note of injuries suffered at other clubs, the Eagles example is an excellent one, decimated last year, yet surely one of the most professionally run organisations going round, sometimes it's just kismet rather than gross mismanagement that's at the heart of the matter.

Agree that we have been suffering a long time, but at least you have had the opportunity to experience the ultimate.I will be 50 in early October and now feel I will never get that chance, just hope my kids do.

I am way more than that T-34

I think you still have reasonable chance

I will be happy with a good side in between

  On 28/03/2014 at 08:17, Curry & Beer said:

wow, how morbid - I didn't realise that was a thing

Is it morbid to donate your organs after death? Is it morbid to harvest insulin from dead pigs? Is it morbid to eat the flesh of dead animals? Is it morbid to dissect euthanized rats you've intentionally given cancer to, in order to discover what makes the disease tick?

Yes, yes, yes and yes--but that doesn't mean it's not still awesome.

  On 28/03/2014 at 08:42, Chook said:

Is it morbid to donate your organs after death? Is it morbid to harvest insulin from dead pigs? Is it morbid to eat the flesh of dead animals? Is it morbid to dissect euthanized rats you've intentionally given cancer to, in order to discover what makes the disease tick?

Yes, yes, yes and yes--but that doesn't mean it's not still awesome.

I don't know why but all those things seem cool with me, wearing a dead guy's skin doesn't!

  On 28/03/2014 at 08:17, Curry & Beer said:

wow, how morbid - I didn't realise that was a thing

Just recycling really. They're a winner because the process is simpler without having to harvest an autologous graft (from your own bod). They have to be irradiated to get rid of rejection issues, and they revascularise like a normal graft, thus becoming living regenerative tissue. They would be the norm if not for lack of availability. Could be a good black market opportunity. Hmmmmm.......

  On 28/03/2014 at 01:05, Rhino Richards said:

But they weren't all with us last year.and what happened....

They would be in the selection mix at MFC.

I think his point was the year before (2012) when it meant very little when they were here.

  On 28/03/2014 at 05:23, binman said:

For a start i didn't know he did his hammy twice before XMAS and had previously not heard anything about a calf injury.

Also becasue he appeared to be honest i could trust that barring setbacks there is a reasonable chance that he might back by about round 5. If he doesn't? Well i'll know there's been a set back and i'm not going to be angry that he duped me.

That's all well and good to get this from the horses mouth of the balanced 12 year vet but what about the frustrated kid with an injury he has never dealt with before or the bloke whose messed up soft tissues and personal issues leave his vocation and life at the crossroads?

Do you get them on DeeTV too?

Besides our injuries and depleted forward line... We really have improved, our midfield looks good... Roos identify our problem and fixed it.. Our current problem now can be fixed with players from our list... All we need is two of Dawes, Clark, Hogan or Fitzpatrick and we'd be a ten goal better side.... Even though we will lose the next couple of matches, things are really starting to look up for us....

We really need to sign Roos on for another three years... The original two/three years isnt enough... I really hope that Roos is happy and wants to finish the job that looked imposible, until he took it...

  On 28/03/2014 at 10:42, tatu said:

Besides our injuries and depleted forward line... We really have improved, our midfield looks good... Roos identify our problem and fixed it.. Our current problem now can be fixed with players from our list... All we need is two of Dawes, Clark, Hogan or Fitzpatrick and we'd be a ten goal better side.... Even though we will lose the next couple of matches, things are really starting to look up for us....

We really need to sign Roos on for another three years... The original two/three years isnt enough... I really hope that Roos is happy and wants to finish the job that looked imposible, until he took it...

nothing has been fixed yet. Identified yes.

  On 27/03/2014 at 12:12, olisik said:

If you think he isnt then one of the best clubs on the sport would disagree with you

First I don't think they are one of the best clubs in the sport, I would say that Hawks, Cats, Swans, Bombers, Dockers and Eagles would be ahead of them for starters. I note GC beat them last week and will be better than them soon and maybe Port and Crows are also better than them.

Second I don't think even the Tigers would say he is a quality player.