Nate Jones?

He said "extend".

I relise that was just having a bit of fun. Would Jamar be one?

Nah, it's running.

We all know he's a "see ball get ball" footballer, who lacks vision and creativity, but if you aren't a good runner in today's footy you can't compete.

You are adding another thing to the mix, and of course you are right but which one is his biggest issue we could go back and forward on. To me Col has a lot of deficiencies and the people who say he has or had so much potential are way off the mark.

He has always been a limited footballer who probably played close to his potential.

You are adding another thing to the mix, and of course you are right but which one is his biggest issue we could go back and forward on. To me Col has a lot of deficiencies and the people who say he has or had so much potential are way off the mark.

He has always been a limited footballer who probably played close to his potential.

Agreed. He's a crap mid and his only skill is finishing. Even then he needs to be at his best and in a half decent team.

I watched him tear it up too many to agree.

I agree, he was a real cry baby

Imagine if Jones had his skills???

Its all about attitude & work ethic!

Give me 18 Jones on the park any day!

Geez, which one would play ruck dees64?

wouldn't need a ruck - one or other or other or other of the Jones boys would shark the opposition hit outs.

He always relied on others to get him the ball, and when you are built like that you are meant to get it yourself or have the ability to get on the end of plays - this he struggled to do because of the aforementioned limited running capacity.

So, yeah, a great ten years...

Fun.

He's a frontrunner.

He still relies on others to get the ball into his hands.

With a body like his and the talent he has that isn't great...

I wrote the above in May 2011.

Things didn't change...

So much discussion about a dud.

In today's footy you have to be able to run.

He took off fairly quickly the morning his car was involved in a crash.

I'm glad he went, was sick of saying "next year will be his year".

This is the word from out West - Give Sylvia a chance.

Speaking to thewest.com.au as the Dockers launched their 2014 season, Lyon admitted that Sylvia had not been as fit as he would have liked when he arrived, but praised him for his work ethic since.

What puzzles me is why try him out in a game played in 34 degree heat if he's so underdone? The Dockers actually tried a number of things during the game against the Eagles that didn't make much sense and their defensive run for a Ross Lyon team was virtually non-existent.

It seems to me that Lyon had virtually no interest in showing his hand so early and not in the least bit cared about winning that game. Hence, nothing would be lost in playing an unfit, unready Sylvia which goes to show how much times have changed for the kid.

This is the word from out West - Give Sylvia a chance.

What puzzles me is why try him out in a game played in 34 degree heat if he's so underdone? The Dockers actually tried a number of things during the game against the Eagles that didn't make much sense and their defensive run for a Ross Lyon team was virtually non-existent.

It seems to me that Lyon had virtually no interest in showing his hand so early and not in the least bit cared about winning that game. Hence, nothing would be lost in playing an unfit, unready Sylvia which goes to show how much times have changed for the kid.

Reminds me of the movie "The Producers" where the lead characters set out to produce a ghastly show that's guaranteed to be a flop so they don't have to repay the people who invested in it. Those blokes ended up in jail. I hope you're not suggesting that Lyon should be charged for bringing the game into disrepute?

I recall hearing that Sumic was coach for the game

This is the word from out West - Give Sylvia a chance.

What puzzles me is why try him out in a game played in 34 degree heat if he's so underdone? The Dockers actually tried a number of things during the game against the Eagles that didn't make much sense and their defensive run for a Ross Lyon team was virtually non-existent.

It seems to me that Lyon had virtually no interest in showing his hand so early and not in the least bit cared about winning that game. Hence, nothing would be lost in playing an unfit, unready Sylvia which goes to show how much times have changed for the kid.

In other words, "yeah, Colin can't run, but we're confident he can improve".

Reminds me of the movie "The Producers" where the lead characters set out to produce a ghastly show that's guaranteed to be a flop so they don't have to repay the people who invested in it. Those blokes ended up in jail. I hope you're not suggesting that Lyon should be charged for bringing the game into disrepute?

Didn't the ghastly show end up being a hit though?

I think there were reasons for every departure of experienced players at the club which are common to most other organisations and its useless playing the blame game at this time because we're never fully privy to all of the reasons why players left in those turbulent times. On balance, I have few regrets and when I look at today's list I can't see how any of them, Sylvia included, would really enhance the list we have today.

As for Colin at Fremantle - I've read numerous reports about his fitness (or lack thereof) in the lead up to this season and they all suggest that he's a fair way off. A decision was made by the Dockers that he play in the NAB Challenge in the heat and, based on what I saw, the wrong decision was made. He's a long way off anything like his best.

It's interesting to contrast that situation to the one we have at Melbourne where some supporters are exasperated that we don't have Mitch Clark or Mark Jamar out on the park playing in the NAB Challenge or the intraclub game. The fact is they're not ready and it's best to take the most conservative line of approach with your players' bodies if you want to get the best out of them during the season proper.

I have no regrets that we let the players go that we did, I think they were all pretty much disruptive influences and we are, in the long term, better off without them.

It may have hurt the club in the short term to lose the experienced players but long term we have now replaced them with players who appear to have much better character and work ethic. The coach is in charge again not a handful of overinflated egos.

Didn't the ghastly show end up being a hit though?

That's what landed the producers in the cells.

Didn't the ghastly show end up being a hit though?

The film as well, but how could it fail with lines like:

"Hitler - there was a painter! He could paint an entire apartment in one afternoon. Two coats!"

Would/could never be made today of course.

The film as well, but how could it fail with lines like:

"Hitler - there was a painter! He could paint an entire apartment in one afternoon. Two coats!"

Would/could never be made today of course.

Unless someone was trying to produce a deliberate flop as part of a dodgy accounting scheme...

But seriously, there's still a lot of fresh material out there just as uncomfortably on the edge of 'horrendous' as there ever was in Mel Brooks' time... wait... hang on... The Producers was remade in 2005 and feature A-list stars. And it was definitely still skirting the line.

Colin hit by "friendly fire" - Sylvia to miss Bulldogs match

Colin hit by "friendly fire" - Sylvia to miss Bulldogs match

As I keep saying he has no awareness so it's now surprise.

Yep in the news again, I wonder if he realised the media scrutiny is far worse in Perth?

Colin hit by "friendly fire" - Sylvia to miss Bulldogs match

Besides Hannath, Tanner Smith and Matt Taberner who are young key position players vital for Freo's depth given the age of some of their big men I'd say that pretty much every player on that list is better than Sylvia.

Sylvia will be competing with Clancee Pearce, Sutcliff, Crozier, Sheridan, De Boer and Danyle Pearce for a spot in Freo's best 22. De Boer and Clancee are classic Ross Lyon defensive based players. Danyle Pearce was last seasons FA signing. Sutcliff, Crozier and Sheridan are young players with talent on the rise. Skinny types but with speed and skill. Sylvia has a lot of competition.

The Producers featured the song "Springtime for Hitler".

Quote by Lyon from today's Age:

"What we think we can provide Col with is an opportunity with a really strong senior core and leadership around him, some really strong standards to be met, a strong game plan where he won't be guessing what's expected of him, and an environment to allow him to be the very best can be.

''I love hard workers who chase and pressure, but with [Hayden] Ballantyne and [Michael] Walters we get goalscoring power as well. So if we can train him up in that aspect, we're going to be a better team."

Read more: Fremantle coach Ross Lyon returns hungrier and 'keen for success'

Of course, the issue is whether Col is motivated enough to meet these requirements?