Name your rookie prospect

[Red and Blue realist 2,026]

Now the draft is over, we can probably better assess our needs when it comes to rookies. Whilst I'm no talent watcher so not going to give predictions on who we might pick up I would think of the 4 picks we have - 2 might go on tall defenders, 1 on another small forward and the other either on a raw mid or ruck project.

Any thoughts on what type of players we need?

[old55 22,779]

Now the draft is over, we can probably better assess our needs when it comes to rookies. Whilst I'm no talent watcher so not going to give predictions on who we might pick up I would think of the 4 picks we have - 2 might go on tall defenders, 1 on another small forward and the other either on a raw mid or ruck project.

Any thoughts on what type of players we need?

I seem to have lost the "Like" button, but I agree with all that.

[DeeSpencer 24,730]

Now the draft is over, we can probably better assess our needs when it comes to rookies. Whilst I'm no talent watcher so not going to give predictions on who we might pick up I would think of the 4 picks we have - 2 might go on tall defenders, 1 on another small forward and the other either on a raw mid or ruck project.

Any thoughts on what type of players we need?

Agree developing a ruck and key defender (just 1 I don't see the need for 2) makes sense. With plenty of main list spots likely to open up in 12 months time there's opportunity for a rookie to get 24 months to show what he can do without too much rush.

Best available as well for most of it would still be kept in mind. With 3 smaller players and not a large amount of talls taken there is bound to be 1 or 2 bigger guys on the recruiters minds going in to the rookie draft.

I'd still keep Jetta in mind for the final pick. I know he's a bit of a list clogger and the worry is he just can't bring it to AFL level but he has agility and the natural physical instincts with tackling. If he's presented to preseason in good shape I'd like to see 1 more year of him just in case.

[CBDees 3,165]

I seem to have lost the "Like" button, but I agree with all that.

I think everybody has lost their like button for some reason. i too liked the scenario.

[DeeSpencer 24,730]

I like the idea of Matt Sully (Geel VF) or Fraser Fort (Geel Falcons) as key defenders

Wouldn't be surprised if Roos takes a punt of one of his big american ruck proteges he had at Sydney.

Maginess and Tsitas might be my two favourite midfielders left. Both of them just find the ball very well and could over come doubts on physical attributes by sheer talent.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

Maybe Mitch Thorpe, do we have a PSD pick?

[Mallee Bull 97]

I like the idea of Matt Sully (Geel VF) or Fraser Fort (Geel Falcons) as key defenders

Wouldn't be surprised if Roos takes a punt of one of his big american ruck proteges he had at Sydney.

Maginess and Tsitas might be my two favourite midfielders left. Both of them just find the ball very well and could over come doubts on physical attributes by sheer talent.

I agree Re: Fort and Sully. We need another key defender on the list who can develop at Casey for the next couple of seasons. Does anyone know what their disposal is like? All of the reviews I can find only mention they're good at one on one situations.

[daisycutter 29,331]

Maybe Mitch Thorpe, do we have a PSD pick?

Only if we delist Nicho who is the only player out of contract.

[old dee 23,491]

only if we delist nicho who is the only player out of contract

Not a difficult decision for me dc

[Dee Fan 3,247]

DC

Isn't it too late to delist any more players?

I thought you had to lodge final lists prior to the draft to give the players the opportunity of nominating.

[daisycutter 29,331]

DC

Isn't it too late to delist any more players?

I thought you had to lodge final lists prior to the draft to give the players the opportunity of nominating.

I'm only presuming he can be Robbie because he is still ooc.

Someone else maybe able to confirm or otherwise.

Google didn't help me.

[Supermercado 2,784]

Only if we delist Nicho who is the only player out of contract.

Is he really? I know this article (http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2012-10-31/dees-elevate-nicholson-evans-) doesn't have any details of his contract length, but given the amount of wacky contractual deals that Neeld did (and that his co-elevatee is still contracted) I just guessed that he got two years.

If this is true... chop!

[daisycutter 29,331]

i believe in rpfc

[MadAsHell 4,209]

Pick 2 a KPD: Alex Spencer (Sandringham Dragons), Fraser Fort (Geelong Falcons) or Matthew Sully (Geelong VFL)

Pick 20 a midfielder/half forward: Jake Best (Casey), Chris Cain (Port Melbourne), Alex Spina (North Adelaide) or William Maginess (Oakleigh Chargers)

Pick 38 a ruckman: Darcy Cameron (Claremont), Darcy Fort (Werribee), Josh Miller (Glenelg), Fraser Thurlow (Labrador) or Ben Mabon (North Melbourne Kangaroos)

Pick 56 a KPF: Khan Haretuku (Frankston), Andrew Algin (Woodville West Torrens), Mitch Thorp (South Launceston) or Aaron Cornelius (Brisbane Lions)

[daisycutter 29,331]

Mitch Thorp worth a definite look at

[Redleg 40,147]

Bit left field here, but I wonder if with 3 established ruckmen next year and another just added, plus another I think on their list, would the Dockers see Hannath as surplus. If we still wanted him and if they don't, we could do a deal with the Dockers to delist him, on the basis we PSD or rookie him and take up his contract payment.

Then again if we don't want him or they do, it's all over.

Nicholson could be delisted and taken back as a rookie if we wanted to use our PSD pick, which I hope we do, if there is a better player available.

[DeeSpencer 24,730]

Bit left field here, but I wonder if with 3 established ruckmen next year and another just added, plus another I think on their list, would the Dockers see Hannath as surplus. If we still wanted him and if they don't, we could do a deal with the Dockers to delist him, on the basis we PSD or rookie him and take up his contract payment.

Then again if we don't want him or they do, it's all over.

Nicholson could be delisted and taken back as a rookie if we wanted to use our PSD pick, which I hope we do, if there is a better player available.

Bit too far left field redleg.

If Nicholson was to be delisted and re-rookied it would've been done by now I guess. My tip is we dont want a PSD pick.

And the Dockers will want Hannath. Apeness will be developed as a forward/ruck. Hannath will be the long term back up behind Zac Clarke. Sandilands will be 31 in a months time and Griffin 28 and coming off a knee injury. They have full ruck stocks but they aren't exactly overflowing.

[Redleg 40,147]

Bit too far left field redleg.

If Nicholson was to be delisted and re-rookied it would've been done by now I guess. My tip is we dont want a PSD pick.

And the Dockers will want Hannath. Apeness will be developed as a forward/ruck. Hannath will be the long term back up behind Zac Clarke. Sandilands will be 31 in a months time and Griffin 28 and coming off a knee injury. They have full ruck stocks but they aren't exactly overflowing.

I am prepared to bet, that if we surrender PSD pick 2 to the Pies, whoever they take, will be better than Nicholson.

As for Hannath, it was a thought.

[Redleg 40,147]

Mitch Thorp worth a definite look at

You would think with that physique and height and the added maturity he has gained with age and coaching, not to mention his footy this year, he would be worth a punt as a rookie. Not much to lose.

[Coup Cooper 610]

Pick 2 a KPD: Alex Spencer (Sandringham Dragons), Fraser Fort (Geelong Falcons) or Matthew Sully (Geelong VFL)

Pick 20 a midfielder/half forward: Jake Best (Casey), Chris Cain (Port Melbourne), Alex Spina (North Adelaide) or William Maginess (Oakleigh Chargers)

Pick 38 a ruckman: Darcy Cameron (Claremont), Darcy Fort (Werribee), Josh Miller (Glenelg), Fraser Thurlow (Labrador) or Ben Mabon (North Melbourne Kangaroos)

Pick 56 a KPF: Khan Haretuku (Frankston), Andrew Algin (Woodville West Torrens), Mitch Thorp (South Launceston) or Aaron Cornelius (Brisbane Lions)

I'd love to see jake best rookie listed!! Looked better than half of our listed players in the vfl last year.. Would be a waste to see him go to another club, considering he knows all the boys now..

[Deecisive 1,709]

it would be a shame to waste our premier position in the PSD and miss a chance to get a jump on those other teams still willing to take psd's instead of rookies. Nicho onto the rookie list would still keep him at the club but also put him on notice that he needs to improve to stay.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

Posted on another thread, Darcy Hourigan looks ok, big lad 192 and 92kgs, has a great boot good awareness good hands can play back or forward, what's not to like. Was expected to go in the ND but missed out. Needs to get a bit more aerobic capacity but that shouldn't be a problem if he gets a good pre season.

[DeeSpencer 24,730]

it would be a shame to waste our premier position in the PSD and miss a chance to get a jump on those other teams still willing to take psd's instead of rookies. Nicho onto the rookie list would still keep him at the club but also put him on notice that he needs to improve to stay.

You think Nicholson doesn't already know it? What do you expect him to run faster this preseason. I'd be all for demoting him but if you are to do it you do it before not now. As for our premier position in the PSD it's a myth, we are already down to taking a smoky in Hunt in the ND.

Posted on another thread, Darcy Hourigan looks ok, big lad 192 and 92kgs, has a great boot good awareness good hands can play back or forward, what's not to like. Was expected to go in the ND but missed out. Needs to get a bit more aerobic capacity but that shouldn't be a problem if he gets a good pre season.

What's not to like is that lack of athleticism isn't just limited to fitness. He's a bit short and too slow for AFL. Looks like he'll be a star at State level but I've seen nothing to show he would translate it to AFL. Some kids are just a bit short and solid for AFL these days.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

You think Nicholson doesn't already know it? What do you expect him to run faster this preseason. I'd be all for demoting him but if you are to do it you do it before not now. As for our premier position in the PSD it's a myth, we are already down to taking a smoky in Hunt in the ND.

What's not to like is that lack of athleticism isn't just limited to fitness. He's a bit short and too slow for AFL. Looks like he'll be a star at State level but I've seen nothing to show he would translate it to AFL. Some kids are just a bit short and solid for AFL these days.

He's the same size as Darling and reminds me a bit of him. As a forward he probably doesn't have to be all that quick and he looks strong enough to hold his own in a contest.

Have a look at his highlights and he knows where the goals are and is a very strong mark, not too bad on the ground either.

[Deecisive 1,709]

You think Nicholson doesn't already know it? What do you expect him to run faster this preseason. I'd be all for demoting him but if you are to do it you do it before not now. As for our premier position in the PSD it's a myth, we are already down to taking a smoky in Hunt in the ND.

What's not to like is that lack of athleticism isn't just limited to fitness. He's a bit short and too slow for AFL. Looks like he'll be a star at State level but I've seen nothing to show he would translate it to AFL. Some kids are just a bit short and solid for AFL these days.

I am sure nicholson knows what melbourne is doing and if they are keeping him on then the club obviously sees some potential in him, but given the lack of realisation of that potential in AFL games they may well move him back to a rookie. i would be surprised if they had not already discussed their plans for with him (whatever they are), as there is no benefit for the club to hold onto him so long if their intention was to delist him so late without taking him back as this would seriously penalise his chances of training with or being picked up by another team. Such treatment of a players would not go down well with the rest of the team.

As for picking a smoky in Hunt, they obviously see something in him to take him above 50 or more other would be draftees, that does not make him a poor choice or mean the players after him are poor, MFC just rates him higher than the others and melbourne preferred to take him in the draft rather than risk of loosing him. We have 4 rookie slots open which we are probably going to fill, as such getting as many early picks will allow us greater choice. if we dont participate in the PSD and other teams will get first crack of the players in the draft, therefore reducing the talent pool we have to eventually choose from.