The Trade/Draft Rumour Mill

[titan_uranus 22,240]

Just for some clarity on the Bugg/Buntine/9 trade, Emma Quayle, one of the authors of the article that broke that story, tweeted today that it's GWS' offer, and that she doesn't think we'd be keen to do that deal.

https://twitter.com/emmasq/status/390624628194156544

[beelzebub 22,225]

not seeing anything to back it up ........yet.

Would have liked to see Lyons mentioned somewhere

[daisycutter 28,481]

Not since Flower... lets start this argument again.

he did say "potential" but

[Clintosaurus 6,420]

We must be getting pick 21 for Col.

[Young Dee 1,302]

I know little about Bugg and Buntine. On pure stats alone they played only 17 games between them this year and were low possession winners. They may have had injury concerns for all I know but the deal for pick 2, even with a pick 9 kick back, is like us palming off Tapscott and Strauss.

There are many better judges on this board than me but this deal, as reported, sounds ridiculous

It's a no from me as well.

I think we have our back-line sorted for now and we can always touch it up later with a player but for now we need midfielders!

We have three tall backs in Frawley, Garland and McDonald. Then Dunn as a back up/Watts.

We then have several small/mid sized defenders in : Terlich, Clisby, Grimes (I think thats his position going forward) and Strauss (I am going to make a big call and say he will be one of Roos' best prodigies) and Tapscott.

Unless Roos' thinks those two could become gun midfielders then no!

Edited October 17, 2013 by Young Dee

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

Come on Steve - Jumbo said it. Jumbo works by opposites. He didn't rate Shiel, yet rates Bugg.

Entitled to his opinion, I just don't share it!

As for Shiel, I'm actually not quite sold on a straight swap for pick 2. I rate the guy, but I reckon we can do better.

The poster who came up with the three-way with Collingwood saying something about us receiving Sidebottom plus two top 10 draft picks sounds delicious.

Edited October 17, 2013 by stevethemanjordan

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

I think a deal is underway with GWS and pick 2. Have no idea what it looks like.

As an aside, GWS love Buntine and Bugg. Hard as cats' heads.

[Bombay Airconditioning 5,860]

They just said on the radio we've apparently agreed to the Vince for pick 20 trade. Any confirmation anywhere?

please be true, then we hopefully feel the need for a stupid deal for pick 2.

[beelzebub 22,225]

I think a deal is underway with GWS and pick 2. Have no idea what it looks like.

As an aside, GWS love Buntine and Bugg. Hard as cats' heads.

lol...havent heard that for yonks..

tic toc

[Gorgoroth 12,308]

I heard it on Gold FM, I think they were just saying what was written in the Age.

[Young Dee 1,302]

Pedo will surprise a few next year....

The guys more flat footed than Trengove, has a beer belly and is at that funny kind of height where he is between a medium/tall and a kpp (plays smaller than he is).

The only chance I see for him is him taking Dunn's spot as a 4th tall back-man. Can't see him becoming a forward or wing-man with Clark, Dawes, Hogan, Fitzy and Watts.

Will need to get his body in shape if he wants any chance at all.

Not to mention this.......

Edited October 17, 2013 by Young Dee

[olisik 4,060]

Id pref zak jones or garlett over vince.

[Coup Cooper 610]

Could the MFC very cheekily pull off this..

GWS approached offered picks 2 20 and Jamar for pick 1. They're happy.

In the meantime, MFC on the blower to Collingwood, we take 10,11, Sidebottom for number 1.. Pies get prized possession in Boyd and we get a good midfielder and good picks.

I believe that would be called a 2 player swing haha.

That would be an amazing get.. Sidebottom good mid goes under the radar!

[Young Dee 1,302]

Id pref zak jones or garlett over vince.

Your talking about totally different objectives.

We are getting Vince because we need some senior leadership in the middle who can perform immediately(unlike Rodan and Byrnes).

Jones and Garlett are long term projects and they won't develop properly without some sort of leadership and team competitiveness.

Edited October 17, 2013 by Young Dee

[Young Dee 1,302]

Entitled to his opinion, I just don't share it!

As for Shiel, I'm actually not quite sold on a straight swap for pick 2. I rate the guy, but I reckon we can do better.

The poster who came up with the three-way with Collingwood saying something about us receiving Sidebottom plus two top 10 draft picks sounds delicious.

That would be amazing although I am guessing Collingwood would complain.

I really think those picks around ten are under rated - I could see some potentail stars falling to pick 10 (Crouch). Then we could trade the other pick for a decent young mid (Myers and Lyon?).

[old55 21,226]

Mitchie 185/85

Vince 186/87

Lyons 184/78

Myers 191/92

Cross 187/87

Shiel 180/84

Bugg 185/76

Buntine 189/86

Some big bodies there ...

[Young Dee 1,302]

Mitchie 185/85

Vince 186/87

Lyons 184/78

Myers 191/92

Cross 187/87

Shiel 180/84

Bugg 185/76

Buntine 189/86

Some big bodies there ...

Yep - definitely a pattern there.

Myers is concerningly big.........

[jabberwocky 2,301]

Roosy, along with a lot of other coaches likes to have big arsed mids in the engine room.

[rjay 23,883]

I agree I don't understand the hate for this bloke. Compared to some of our other players he is actually not that bad. He does need to lose weight but his size and marking ability is a strength of his which is quite handy.

I believe he should have been dropped after that round one game where he ducked his head. It would have sapped every ounce of confidence he had. Just shows what a terrible coach Neeld was. Like Watts after getting subbed against Essendon then getting dropped only to come back a week later after not even playing VFL footy.

Look at the way Neil Craig handled Jimmy toumpas when he was subbed against Brisbane during the 3rd qtr with 2 disposals. You could see how devastated Toumpas was. So what did Craig do? backed him in the week after and played him again. Played real well that game too.

Just shows the gap between Neeld and Craigy in terms of people management skills.

Any sorry for hijacking this thread! LoL

It's not hate from me but I don't like him as a player. He wants the game played on his terms and doesn't work hard enough if it's not. When it's played on his terms he looks good but he won't go out of his way and lets his teammates down when he needs to put in the extra effort. I'm not surprised he had the North players off side, he is a lazy, selfish player and I'm not sure this can be changed.

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,636]

It's not hate from me but I don't like him as a player. He wants the game played on his terms and doesn't work hard enough if it's not. When it's played on his terms he looks good but he won't go out of his way and lets his teammates down when he needs to put in the extra effort. I'm not surprised he had the North players off side, he is a lazy, selfish player and I'm not sure this can be changed.

Don't hate him either, but frustrated by him. Complained a lot in the preseason about the lack of effort we saw from him, he just seemed to want to do everything at half pace. Couldn't believe it when he was selected for the first game.

[CatFishPig 434]

Could we possibly get Shiel and Buntine or Bugg for pick 2? They can keep 9..

I hope we play hard ball, seems like GWS really want pick 2.

[H_T 2,941]

Mitchie 185/85

Vince 186/87

Lyons 184/78

Myers 191/92

Cross 187/87

Shiel 180/84

Bugg 185/76

Buntine 189/86

Some big bodies there ...

My word Fifty-5.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

Could we possibly get Shiel and Buntine or Bugg for pick 2? They can keep 9.. I hope we play hard ball, seems like GWS really want pick 2.

Lolsies.

We wish.

Edited October 17, 2013 by stevethemanjordan

[Scipio 5,868]

Yep - definitely a pattern there.

Myers is concerningly big.........

Myers could be the huge midfielder that we've needed for a long time, to bullock his way through the clinches and force the ball out to other midfielders, like Watson, Kennedy, Mundy, Barlow etc.

In saying that, it's only in his size so far that Myers compares to those names. I personally haven't seen him play all that much.

Edited October 17, 2013 by Django

[monoccular 16,040]

Pedo will surprise a few next year....

Will be an absolute gun. -)