The Trade/Draft Rumour Mill

[JJJ 1,103]

Yep that's what I thought.

Said the other day if Shiel was to come home it would either be Carlton or Richmond.

why those 2?

As of Friday he hadn't told us 'no' so that's a glimmer....

I expect a few more answers early this week.

[CBDees 3,165]

why those 2?

As of Friday he hadn't told us 'no' so that's a glimmer....

I expect a few more answers early this week.

Maybe because of what DD36 said on the other thread: "His girlfriend is apparently living in Melbourne with his Dad who so happens to be Richmond's development coach."

[TheoX 1,220]

Carlton supporter, girlfriend's dad at Richmond maybe.

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

Went to a function last night and spoke to a bloke who knows mfc board members.

We are offering pick 2 for Shiel but GWS are playing hard ball. The good news is that the file isn't closed yet.

Without going into specifics, my info comes from within GWS.

FWIW There are a few players up there who would like to come home but I don't think that is any different to any young players at other AFL clubs. I am not that confident that we will see Shiel in MFC colours.

Thanks lads,

I am hoping a deal can get done - glad we (the MFC) are following it up - hope we go hard and can get something done

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

Shiel is good, but does anyone else feel he is not worth pick 2?

[Tatu 416]

Shiel is good, but does anyone else feel he is not worth pick 2?

YES!!

[JJJ 1,103]

Shiel is good, but does anyone else feel he is not worth pick 2?

by 2015 he would be our #1 mid. Can't say that about anyone in the 2013 draft class so, yes, he is worth it.

[Hannibal 5,814]

Shiel is good, but does anyone else feel he is not worth pick 2?

Absolutely he's worth it. Tough, has pace, aggressive, hurt factor by feet, backs himself. He's also got two years in the system.

Those that follow junior footy closely say he was a definite top 5 pick in his draft year and likely top 3, so why wouldn't he be worth pick 2 with two years development and runs on the board in a crap team ?

[Demon_JB 1,359]

People who think he is not worth pick #2 have absolutely no idea

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

People who think he is not worth pick #2 have absolutely no idea

i have no idea about stuff.

[Demon_JB 1,359]

i have no idea about stuff.

Move on then chief

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

Absolutely he's worth it. Tough, has pace, aggressive, hurt factor by feet, backs himself. He's also got two years in the system.

Those that follow junior footy closely say he was a definite top 5 pick in his draft year and likely top 3, so why wouldn't he be worth pick 2 with two years development and runs on the board in a crap team ?

interesting, just posing the question. Pick 2 lands the best young midfielder in the country so who we trade for needs to be of this mould.

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

Move on then chief

can't bro. too much pain has been caused to me by this club. need to get this draft/trade period right, hence why i am questioning our every move.

[Alcho Dee 269]

Shiel is good, but does anyone else feel he is not worth pick 2?

We are desperate for ready to go mids and don't really want to wait for Aish or Kelly to play 50 games before they can have a big impact on games, I think we should aim higher with our pick 2, which I think is what you are saying. At worst we will be getting a quality mid with our pick 2. With our results since 2006 and trade history in mind I think Shiel will be a good way to use our pick 2. But why would GWS want to give him up just to pick up another mid.... What do we have that they would want?

[Gorgoroth 12,752]

I will admit I've not seen enough or noticed shiel enough when watching GWS games to say wether he is worth it.

[Adam The God 29,657]

We are desperate for ready to go mids and don't really want to wait for Aish or Kelly to play 50 games before they can have a big impact on games, I think we should aim higher with our pick 2, which I think is what you are saying. At worst we will be getting a quality mid with our pick 2. With our results since 2006 and trade history in mind I think Shiel will be a good way to use our pick 2. But why would GWS want to give him up just to pick up another mid.... What do we have that they would want?

It depends how they rate others at the top of this year's draft pool. Say they really wanted Scharenberg. They have a lot of midfield talent, so trading for Pick 2 means they get to grab Boyd and Scharenberg.

Edited October 13, 2013 by AdamFarr

[Demoneyes 562]

Absolutely he's worth it. Tough, has pace, aggressive, hurt factor by feet, backs himself. He's also got two years in the system.

Those that follow junior footy closely say he was a definite top 5 pick in his draft year and likely top 3, so why wouldn't he be worth pick 2 with two years development and runs on the board in a crap team ?

Yes, I agree but everyone wants more than they have to give!

[jumbo returns 6,704]

i have no idea about stuff.

How dare you have an opinion?

Can't you see that all those in the 'know' rate Shiel?

Fwiw, I watched the GWS replay last week and he hardly got a touch against us.....just sayin'

[demonchris 162]

I know why their is so much love for Shiel, he is a very well rounded and gifted player. Say GWS wont let him go, would anyone be interested in getting our hands on Toby Greene? maybe packaged up with either,

a) pick 9

b) Bugg- turns 20 years 6 months old, 185cm 76kg

c) Tyson- 20 years 4 months old, 186cm, 81kg

d)Townsend- 20 years 3 months, 187cm, 84kg

Obviously, we would have to give a little bit back if we got options c or d. but trading pick 2 for Greene and pick 9 wouldn't be such a bad result, IMO.

[PJ_12345 1,098]

Shiel is good, but does anyone else feel he is not worth pick 2?

I know what you mean, but from what I've heard about this draft and where we are currently/what we need it would be the best use of pick 2.

Also as is he would be our second best mid not bad for a 20 year old.

Would love to see if the club is proposing more than a straight swap, ie pick 2 + Sylvia compo for Shields and a better pick.

[PJ_12345 1,098]

How dare you have an opinion?

Can't you see that all those in the 'know' rate Shiel?

Fwiw, I watched the GWS replay last week and he hardly got a touch against us.....just sayin'

You're right, in terms of disposals that was his worst game all season.

PS, lucky you didn't see him in Round 4 against us!

[jumbo returns 6,704]

Bugg and Tyson are both very good footballers.

[Machsy 2,858]

What's this rumour going around that Montagna will get traded to Essendon?

I'm kinda worried we'll try to get involved for Myers when I hear that!

[jumbo returns 6,704]

You're right, in terms of disposals that was his worst game all season.

PS, lucky you didn't see him in Round 4 against us!

Look, he might be worth Pick 2, but I'm not convinced.....I'm maligning the constant barrage of negative commentary if you dare have a debate.

[Alcho Dee 269]

I know why their is so much love for Shiel, he is a very well rounded and gifted player. Say GWS wont let him go, would anyone be interested in getting our hands on Toby Greene? maybe packaged up with either,

a) pick 9

b) Bugg- turns 20 years 6 months old, 185cm 76kg

c) Tyson- 20 years 4 months old, 186cm, 81kg

d)Townsend- 20 years 3 months, 187cm, 84kg

Obviously, we would have to give a little bit back if we got options c or d. but trading pick 2 for Greene and pick 9 wouldn't be such a bad result, IMO.

Nah Greene lacks composure and his disposal is average, but he is a ball magnet and has a good work ethic.