Jesse Hogan & Dominic Barry now Dees!

[dazzledavey36 54,939]

Welcome boys!

[Jordie_tackles 354]

Good work Dees, now lets use pick 4 wisely

[Gippsland Dee 367]

Outstanding! Hogan will set up our forward line for the next decade once he debuts and Barry looks like a very nice player. To get him along with pick 20 is gold as that will be a good bargaining pick for another established player (Dawes). With pick four our only high pick left now it will surely be used on a player such as Wines/O'Rourke. Can't wait It's been a brilliant FA/trade period so far.

Keep it coming!

[satyricon 267]

Is this official? Can't wait for an 18yr old Hogan to suffer at the hands of Demonland.

[Gippsland Dee 367]

Is this official?

Its definitely official!

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-demons-set-sights-on-young-wa-gun-jesse-hogan/story-fnahrzm3-1226490988966

[satyricon 267]

Shannon Byrnes, Jack Viney, Jesse Hogan and Dom Barry and it is only day 2, suggest you read about Barry a great pickup, we know what we are doing

[DemonWA 3,934]

the only people who are disapointed about this trade are those who want to wait until 2020 for us to be any good. I think MFC have got the balance absolutley right this time. Going into this period any of us would have been happy with Viney @ 3, swap pick 4 for Hogan & another good mid at 13.

Now we have Viney, Hogan PLUS pick 4 (which sould secure us a long term gun player). I suspect we will chase Dawes too with 20.

This will give us a good mix of players who will make a differnce in 2013 and players who will be neck deep when we are pushing for finals.

Bravo MFC

PS. GWS are stockpiling young talent becasue they know 1/4 of them will get homesick and request to leave anyway.

[Little Goffy 14,545]

Hmm... looking at the final arrangement on paper, it seems we -

Traded pick 3 in this draft for basically pick 3 in the next draft, in order to guarantee a player we were confident about and that really suited our needs, and with the bonus of getting to manage their final pre-AFL development year knowing that they would come to us.

Traded seven slots down the list in round 1 (moved 13 to 20) for a player tipped to go third roundish (or later), but who clearly has potential and we obviously like - Dom Barry, speedy agile guy.

That second part wouldn't be such a bad deal in itself, even without it being seen as a sweetener for GWS (who get something for nothing).

I'm comfortable, pick 20 is useful, there's still quite a few decent mids around there.

This also basically rules out giving up too much for Wellingham, or paying too much 'over' for Dawes if we still go for him. So not only are good things happening, but bad things are being nipped in the bud.

[timmy 29]

Does Hogan count as a 'Senior List' position?

Guess we're gonna have to start delisting some players soon...

[Striker475 696]

Does Hogan count as a 'Senior List' position?

Guess we're gonna have to start delisting some players soon...

Not until 2014, I know O'Meara didn't count for the Suns this year and thus they have to delist an extra.

[satyricon 267]

Who tipped Barry to go third roundish?

[Striker475 696]

Who tipped Barry to go third roundish?

Knightmare over on BigFooty has Barry anywhere from 30 to rookie.

I like the trade. Ultimately you can break it in two...

- MD2 for Pick 3

- Pick 13 for Pick 20 and Barry - a 7-slot downgrade for Barry effectively.

[Little Goffy 14,545]

Adding to DemonWA's thought about GWS stockpiling talent because the know they will lose them - every extra pick we can jam down their throat now just increases the amount they will vomit back in four year's time when Tom Scully's contract squeezes them all out.

Dear GWS/AFL, thank you for paying for the development of our future players, and also the draft picks for Scully, lots of love, Melbourne Demons!

[satyricon 267]

Knightmare over on BigFooty has Barry anywhere from 30 to rookie.

I like the trade. Ultimately you can break it in two...

- MD2 for Pick 3

- Pick 13 for Pick 20 and Barry - a 7-slot downgrade for Barry effectively.

There is a hint there, Barry is Indigenous, watch the video on the MFC site, I am over the moon, another sweet left foot, grunt with Viney and silk with Barry...could be anything

[Maldonboy38 6,403]

I am trying to sort this out in my head. Was Barry available in the draft? If yes, how do we know we have him - is he not available to other clubs? Or was he already on the GWS list in some way?

[Roger Mellie 4,025]

I think Barry's stocks rise with his strong showing at the draft camp

[Roger Mellie 4,025]

I am trying to sort this out in my head. Was Barry available in the draft? If yes, how do we know we have him - is he not available to other clubs? Or was he already on the GWS list in some way?

I was confused about that one too

[monoccular 17,428]

We are surely due for a major change in luck with our Territorians. Go Dom.

[Rocknroll 1,004]

Northern Territory selection (regional) I think. But played for St Pats and Ballarat rebels this year (this I got from google)

[satyricon 267]

He was pre listed with GWS one of the many concessions they have/had, not sure how it works but we now have him, maybe the Club site will explain it in a video or something, it gets too complicated as long as the Club says he is OURS...that will do me

[timmy 29]

Not until 2014, I know O'Meara didn't count for the Suns this year and thus they have to delist an extra.

Thanks Striker..that makes sense. So someone with 1 year left on their contract might get a stay of execution this year (Mr. Morton?!)

[Maldonboy38 6,403]

AFL website has just answered my own question. Quote:

"Barry was zoned to GWS under the draft and player concession rules that gave the expansion club access to players from the Northern Territory who will be draft eligible by the time of the 2011, 2012 and 2013 drafts.""

Although he is available for this draft, he was formally attached to GWS and that is how they were able to use him in the Hogan trade. Well done Dees.

[binman 42,969]

I am trying to sort this out in my head. Was Barry available in the draft? If yes, how do we know we have him - is he not available to other clubs? Or was he already on the GWS list in some way?

As i understand it GWS could pre-list NT players and then trade those player pre-draft. I think if not traded they then had the option of picking the player up pre draft. If they choose not add the player to their list hehen could put himself in the draft.

[Allen Jakovich 516]

So Barry can play in 2013?

[spirit of norm smith 16,459]

Great work MFC. Hogan is a "man" and will benefit from 2 pre seasons. The key fwd we had to get (farewell Lucas Cook).

Barry is really quick. And I like his skills. Maybe our new recruiting strategy is left footers aka the hawks strategy.