Gut feel ... Moloney gone.

[General 35]

Just not sure his poor form means he wants out. He appears to have a lot of friends at the club and a good lifestyle. Obviously struggled to cope with the new coaches, the leadership group and even being passed by his mate Nathan Jones as our best midfielder. He Hasn't caught on with new game style. And looks either confused or disinterested on the field. I think he should be dropped, but I think he can fight his way back. Hell never be our best mid again, he dosen't run well enough, but we are desperate for midfielders, for experience and strength. Surely the bombers won't pay anything for him, he's certainly not in there best midfield. I suspect he'll get a better offer at MFC than anywhere else because of our weak midfield. Surely he'd have to go for a lesser contract, or am I missing something? He hasn't shown any rival clubs that he's worth any reasonable offer. Not this year anyhow.

[dee-luded 2,958]

Whats all this talk of trading him? You guys are aware that we cant trade him as he is a free agent? Any other club can just take him for free if they want....

No he's Not. He's a restricted free agent.

from: Rules of AFL FREE AGENTS list 2012

A player has served eight or more seasons of AFL football at one club, is one of the top 25 per cent highest-paid players at his club, and is now out of contract for the first time since reaching eight seasons of service. (restricted free agent)

The player is eligible to field offers from all rival AFL clubs.

If he wishes to change clubs, the player must decide on the best offer of his choice from one rival club.

His club has the right to match the presented offer.

If the club matches the offer, he may choose to remain with his original club, seek a trade, or enter the Draft.

If the club does not, or can not match the offer, the player can move to the new club of his choice.

His original club will receive a compensation pick, for the loss of the player, on an AFL-determined formula, to apply where clubs lose more free agents than they gain in any single transfer period.

[dee-luded 2,958]

Just not sure his poor form means he wants out. He appears to have a lot of friends at the club and a good lifestyle. Obviously struggled to cope with the new coaches, the leadership group and even being passed by his mate Nathan Jones as our best midfielder. He Hasn't caught on with new game style. And looks either confused or disinterested on the field. I think he should be dropped, but I think he can fight his way back. Hell never be our best mid again, he dosen't run well enough, but we are desperate for midfielders, for experience and strength. Surely the bombers won't pay anything for him, he's certainly not in there best midfield. I suspect he'll get a better offer at MFC than anywhere else because of our weak midfield. Surely he'd have to go for a lesser contract, or am I missing something? He hasn't shown any rival clubs that he's worth any reasonable offer. Not this year anyhow.

I suspect he'll be offered a bit Less than his previous contract, from us. I reckon he'll find better offers elsewhere.

[Tony Tea 2,786]

I love that Beamer is a hard core Demon at heart. Did anyone see him collecting autographs at the 150 year function in 2008? I would also love him to finish his career at Melbourne and spend the rest of his life fondly remembering the Dees and being remembered by the Dees and fans. It would be a pity to see him wind up doing a Bruce and leaving in a huff then tooling around in another team's rezzies, or following Junior (Demon royalty) to the newbies, and thus diluting his legacy. (I don't know what to make of his time at Geelong vis-a-vis his career.)

The thing is, like several Demon players over recent years, he is a bit of a flat track bully. I cannot remember him playing a good game in a big game.

What, precisely, is his value to Melbourne?

[rjay 23,920]

With the talk of his manager fielding offers from other clubs does anyone know if we have actually offered him a contract for next season. Maybe that's what they were looking for in the first place (his management), I haven't heard of an offer or ongoing contract talks, the club may well be holding back.

[Moonshadow 16,199]

What, precisely, is his value to Melbourne?

A lot less than it was 12 mths ago, which makes the next contract negotiation difficult for the Club and him. He would be wanting a good deal based upon perceived potential, not upon current form.

Edited July 12, 2012 by Moonshadow

[Forest Demon 4,681]

Hope he stays. Like a couple of others, he definitely gets a bit of rough treatment by many on here.

[binman 38,110]

No he's Not. He's a restricted free agent.

from: Rules of AFL FREE AGENTS list 2012

A player has served eight or more seasons of AFL football at one club, is one of the top 25 per cent highest-paid players at his club, and is now out of contract for the first time since reaching eight seasons of service. (restricted free agent)

The player is eligible to field offers from all rival AFL clubs.

If he wishes to change clubs, the player must decide on the best offer of his choice from one rival club.

His club has the right to match the presented offer.

If the club matches the offer, he may choose to remain with his original club, seek a trade, or enter the Draft.

If the club does not, or can not match the offer, the player can move to the new club of his choice.

His original club will receive a compensation pick, for the loss of the player, on an AFL-determined formula, to apply where clubs lose more free agents than they gain in any single transfer period.

Thanks for saving me the trouble. As a poker player he sucks. If you try to bluff, better have something behind it because if you're called you look a tad silly

[Macca 16,173]

It's hard to remember any of our players having 'Good' games in 'Big games' in the last 5 and a half years . It's often hard to come up with 4 or 5 'Pass marks' in a lot of our games against good opposition . That's the reality when the team gets smashed

I'd like to see a list of our players who have consistently done well in 'Big games' in the last 5 and a half years . Even a list of those who do well in 1 out of 3 games would be interesting . The 1st list would be empty and the 2nd list would contain less than a handful IMO .

As an example , let's look at our 13 losses last year . Did any of our players have 4 or 5 good games in these 13 losses? A good game should include winning your position and/or beating your opponent (but not always) .

It's easy to point the finger at one bloke but it's a team game and more than a few need to cop their fair share in a loss (especially a bad loss)

Edited July 12, 2012 by Macca

[rpfc 27,473]

Guys get dropped.

He is in horrible form but I would like him to stick around.

I think he will be here next year.

[picket fence 15,167]

Brent Moloney Has got the most out of himself in his AFL footy career

and quite possibly most out of his life at this point as a professional sportsman, I might also add he is a genuine Bloke who takes time to talk to the common man, something some players find very difficult!

A life long demon supporter

He could be described as very much "Old School"

Must have really, really cut to the bone with his demotion from leadership

But a born leader no less

Great leaders when appointed, step up to the mark, some spectacularly like Beamer has done in the past.

A few indescretions see him ostensibly consigned to the "Damaged Goods" bin

Very unfortunate...... Very!!

A Best and Fairest winner at Melbourne...

Impressive!!

Now on the basis of a less than spectacular season under a new coach

and some want to write him off???

Nup We need blokes like Brent Moloney and I'll give you a Tip..

Norm Smith would have loved him

Enough for me

Keep at all costs!

Edited July 12, 2012 by picket fence

[Sir Why You Little 34,471]

Is he going to help us win a flag?

[45HG 1,539]

Is he going to help us win a flag?

If we win one and he's on the list, then yes.

[rpfc 27,473]

Is he going to help us win a flag?

That's a tough one.

But if you are saying he isn't going to play when we are top 4 then fine, but that doesn't mean we should turf everyone we think isn't going to be around when we are top 4.

That's the kind of thinking that leads to Junior going early.

[Macca 16,173]

Is he going to help us win a flag?

We might need divine intervention for that 'Wyl' . And the National Draft (again) .

[Sir Why You Little 34,471]

That's a tough one.

But if you are saying he isn't going to play when we are top 4 then fine, but that doesn't mean we should turf everyone we think isn't going to be around when we are top 4.

That's the kind of thinking that leads to Junior going early.

Junior was playing much better football than Moloney is this year.

[rpfc 27,473]

Junior was playing much better football than Moloney is this year.

Still doesn't have anything to do with winning a flag, does it?

If Neeld and co. think that Moloney will have a positive impact on those that they think will win a flag then get out the chequebook!

[Sir Why You Little 34,471]

Still doesn't have anything to do with winning a flag, does it?

If Neeld and co. think that Moloney will have a positive impact on those that they think will win a flag then get out the chequebook!

Sure. But i don't care if he stays or goes. He has been invisible during games this year.

[GRUN DEE 69]

I dont like too say it! But the reality is.... he will be at another club at seasons end.

[Sir Why You Little 34,471]

I dont like too say it! But the reality is.... he will be at another club at seasons end.

Good. We can recruit a better player.

[picket fence 15,167]

Explain your rationale, Jungle Dee( and anyone else for that matter) as to why he will be at another club next year?

[Hero1 74]

Melbourne is the laughing stock of the competition.

[Moonshadow 16,199]

Melbourne is the laughing stock of the competition.

Are you trolling?

[McQueen 17,863]

So can a new role for Brent not be successful eventually ? I would say there are probably about 15 - 20 on our list who are struggling with their new roles . Do we rule a line through all of them as well ?

Or is there just a separate rule for Moloney ?

I think Moloney is more one-dimensional than most of the players on our list.

[Moonshadow 16,199]

I think Moloney is more one-dimensional than most of the players on our list.

More than Jamar? Rivers? Green?