Moloney and Jamar on the move?

[jimcor 212]

There, I've said it. Moloney is starting to look like he's just been grandstanding, instead of leading, all these years. But that's the kind of reaction a player can expect when they clear their management to publicly shop them around when their weekly place on the team is under pressure from a late rookie-draft pick.

Probably a fair comment but it's very difficult when you've been a stand out and then have rapidly become something less. It's not Moloney's fault that he was a big fish in a very small pond of talent - at least while the smaller fish were developing their their talent. Managing player expectations is a key component of a footy club and this, like Junior's 'retirement', needs to be managed with sensitivity. Club culture is partly a reflection of the way we deal with the development of young players and the changing roles of senior players. Poorly handled, they can become poisonous.

I'm sure he can continue to make a contribution but he needs to be convinced that it's a worthwhile one.

[Fat Tony 5,306]

so when are we going for a flag tony?

i might take a break until near that time....appreciate any information

I would prefer if we take shifts. You go first.

[The Devil's Advocate 2]

If the current side are going to be any good (and i think they will be), it will be in 2-3 years - is Maloney going to be a big part of that? He will be 30-31 years old.

Does he provide the persistent high work rate and defensive grunt that Neeld clearly expects of every player in the side?

The answer to both questions is, at this stage, a big "no".

Obviously we want to keep experienced, hard bodied players, but if he wants to leave, then good luck to him.

[DEE fence 5,045]

Moloney is reacting to all the crap that has been posted on him here at the forum

[Sir Why You Little 37,310]

Moloney is reacting to all the crap that has been posted on him here at the forum

Good, about time he did something.

[Tatu 416]

After losing scully last year, I don't care who leaves...... He can [censored] off to Carlton for all I care!!!!!!!!!

[PaulRB 6,432]

Interestingly, Neeld in his weekly comedy session with Robbo, said that the older players were slower at adapting to the new style than the younger ones. So I suspect Moloney is behind the curve at the moment (frustrated and confused) but will come good in time.

[DEELIRIOUS 156]

Again Moloney can go, but if its free agency we get nothing in return??? And keep Jamar at all costs, our ruck stocks would be terribly exposed!

[Viney12 196]

Again Moloney can go, but if its free agency we get nothing in return??? And keep Jamar at all costs, our ruck stocks would be terribly exposed!

AFL grants compensation

[Range Rover 1,935]

Note to Brent:

The best way to attract a good deal from an AFL club is to ... you know ... play some decent footy against good opposition.

Shopping yourself out in the media in early May smacks of desperation.

[Tony Tea 2,814]

Interesting to see what sort of compensation we would get for Jamar.

Pros: All Australian 2010; suitor would need to pay big to shoe horn him out of Melbourne.

Cons: past his best; doesn't take enough marks; dreadful kick for goal; not getting any better; not getting any younger, which at 30-odd is an issue.

Not sure if, like $cully, his wage at a new club would be taken into account, but I reckon we may get a second-rounder. Can't see the AFL offering more.

I reckon GWS would be mad to pay over the odds for Jamar, but I thought the same about $cully.

[DeeM 42]

why are we all talking like he has left already??

He is one of the most consistent players we have had the last few years,

and, i think, one of the most loved by supporters.

lets all take a deep breath

[Range Rover 1,935]

why are we all talking like he has left already??

He is one of the most consistent players we have had the last few years,

and, i think, one of the most loved by supporters.

lets all take a deep breath

"Breathe in ... hhhhhhhhmmm ..... Breathe out ... hhhaaaaaaaa .... relaaaaxxxx ....

You are getting very sleeeeeepy. Soon you will bliiiiiiissfully ignore the fact you're sitting 0-6 and below the Suns on the ladder.

Your midfield is actually muuuuuuch better than the stats suggest.

Breathe in ... hhhhhhhhmmm ..... Breathe out ... hhhaaaaaaaa .... relaaaaxxxx."

[beelzebub 23,390]

Jamar is worth more to the club than Moloney in the next 3 years.

by a country mile or three !!

[beelzebub 23,390]

why are we all talking like he has left already??

He is one of the most consistent players we have had the last few years,

and, i think, one of the most loved by supporters.

lets all take a deep breath

funny.... hes PLAYING like he has !!

[beelzebub 23,390]

Interestingly, Neeld in his weekly comedy session with Robbo, said that the older players were slower at adapting to the new style than the younger ones. So I suspect Moloney is behind the curve at the moment (frustrated and confused) but will come good in time.

I think you may very well be on the money here. Maybe not all but certainly the old adage.. old dogs..new tricks comes to mind.

Ive a feeling theat Neeld knows he is building a team , in his image, not quite from scratch but not far off it. There WILL be some players all but ready to go from the existing bunch. Also a handful open and able to learn and so be added to the new-team going forward and then theres the dead weights.

[jimcor 212]

It's not right to write Moloney off as yet. As I mentioned above, it's only recently that we delisted James McDonald and we are still paying a price. IIRC, the argument was that we had to Mel space for young ones. We then discovered that we had created a leadership vacuum that not only nature abhorred, the fans weren't that impressed either.

Again, as I said, I don't think that, if he left it would be so difficult to replace him but frankly, we don't want to lose anyone who can still make a strong contribution. I think that someone like Moloney obviously needs a bit more assistance in adapting his game than the younger ones. Given his contribution over the last three years, there is a bit of a debt. If we don't show loyalty to players, it's unlikely we'll get much in return.

[Guest José Mourinho]

Difference is that McDonald was performing.

[Goodvibes 3,596]

Maloney probably [censored] off re leadershp group ....and another rebuild. If he and / or Jamar goes, do we get any kind of compo?....or do they just walk?

I actually heard that he was more [censored] off that no one on Demonland can spell his name correctly?

[stuie 7,374]

Difference is that McDonald was performing.

his hammy wasn't though... (at the time)

[jimcor 212]

his hammy wasn't though... (at the time)

Indeed and it seemed more about not preventing younger players from getting games. With the benefit of hindsight, it was significantly wrong. What we now seem to have realized is that we lacked both proven leadership and proven hardness over the ball (Jimmy Mc provided both). If we'd had ample stocks of those, one person wouldn't have made such a difference. We didn't, it did!

Regardless, it would be a much better result if Moloney lifts his performance and imparts some of his passion to the younger players.

[Guest José Mourinho]

his hammy wasn't though... (at the time)

True.

And that's why I supported the decision and still do.

It was the right one at the time.

[Biffen 12,949]

Yeah-all those clearances they get as a duo give me the irrits. move em on.

[PartyTimeJohnny 537]

Jamar won't go

Moloney prob not, but oh well

[Moonshadow 17,678]

Regardless, it would be a much better result if Moloney lifts his performance and imparts some of his passion to the younger players.

He kinda reminds me of a slinky descending down some steps.... Lots of movement, but no real speed.

But I digress...