Define "Elite"

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Easily the most overused word by people in the media and the punters on forums like this, so what do people define as being "elite"?

Personally, as a rule of thumb I think of it as being in the top 1%. There are roughly 800 players in the AFL so I would consider being in the top eight or so players as "elite".

[Harrisonrules 273]

Easily the most overused word by people in the media and the punters on forums like this, so what do people define as being "elite"?

Personally, as a rule of thumb I think of it as being in the top 1%. There are roughly 800 players in the AFL so I would consider being in the top eight or so players as "elite".

Yes but what puts them in the top 1% Are you going to separate out different positions from one another, rather than lump all into the one group of 800. eg elite ruckman from elite back man

[hardtack 10,627]

Yes but what puts them in the top 1% Are you going to separate out different positions from one another, rather than lump all into the one group of 800. eg elite ruckman from elite back man

I suppose it's possible that there will be positions that have no elite players in the competition; for example, there may be no full back who could be considered as being in the top 1% of all players in the AFL.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Yes but what puts them in the top 1% Are you going to separate out different positions from one another, rather than lump all into the one group of 800. eg elite ruckman from elite back man

That's open to interpretation, but I define an "elite" player as who I think is in the top 1%.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

My point is, people are using the word "elite" when they are simply referring to a good player, I am saying that I would only reserve the word for the absolute very best in the competition.

[Biffen 12,947]

I'm sick of the word .Let the Oxford English dictionary define it .Football commentators are sheep wearing ties .As are news Journalists reporting on areas being INUNDATED by water .AKA flooded .

[Guest Thomo]

This is not Bigfooty

[rjay 25,092]

Gary Ablett!

[Sir Why You Little 37,133]

Robert Flower Ju$$ Greg Williams Adam Goodes Trevor Barker

Carey Peter Matera Benny Cousins James Tird.......

Players who consistently influence game results.

[Chook 15,022]

I'm sick of the word .Let the Oxford English dictionary define it .Football commentators are sheep wearing ties .As are news Journalists reporting on areas being INUNDATED by water .AKA flooded .

ELITE

Pronunciation: /eɪˈliːt, ɪ-/

noun

1a group of people considered to be superior in a particular society or organization: the country’s educated elite [as modifier]: an elite combat force

Source: www.oxforddictionaries.com

By that definition, compared to the worst player in the competition, every other player is elite.

[Striker475 696]

So if we define elite by the top 1%

1/100

If I go with an average of 40 players on a list, means we get 720 players or 7.2 so-called 'elite' players - I will round up to eight.

So:

Judd

Ablett

Goodes

Franklin

Hodge

Bartel

Swan

Pendlebury

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That's it.

[Range Rover 1,935]

For me it's the All-Australian side and a handful of players on the fringe of it.

[rpfc 28,779]

Well, the MFC doesn't really have to worry about the word at the minute...

[rpfc 28,779]

One exception: Moloney was an elite clearance player in 2011 in my view.

Top 1%? I don't know.

All these measurements are subjective even if you can agree on parameters so in the end - who gives a flying?

[biggestred 5,139]

You could argue that just to get on an afl list you are already elite, since the rest of us aren't good enough

[Yossarian 1,820]

Bloody hell I am happy for this thread. I don't really care what the concensus turns out to be but so damn happy it'll take the discussion away from threads I was genuinely interested in.

[Biffen 12,947]

I'm just watching the Metalica doco where the shrink fleeces the band of 40k per month .What an ELITE pack of tossers .

[Sir Why You Little 37,133]

I'm just watching the Metalica doco where the shrink fleeces the band of 40k per month .What an ELITE pack of tossers .

Classic movie!

[dee-eee 231]

Robert Flower Ju$$ Greg Williams Adam Goodes Trevor Barker

Carey Peter Matera Benny Cousins James Tird.......

Players who consistently influence game results.

Whilst the late Trevor Barker frequently took spectacularly high- flying marks , he played for most of his career with sub standard St Kilda sides , so to be honest , i don't think he regularly " influenced game results".

[jnrmac 20,188]

Elite players cannot be tagged out of a game.

Elite players can destroy an opposition single handedly

Elite players are rare.

There would be less than 25 in the whole comp IMO. And we don't have any.

Have we any that could be elite?

Sylvia could. Frawley could. Jamar could. But they're not.

The others its too early to tell.

[Sir Why You Little 37,133]

Whilst the late Trevor Barker frequently took spectacularly high- flying marks , he played for most of his career with sub standard St Kilda sides , so to be honest , i don't think he regularly " influenced game results".

Trevor Barker always gave his all like Robert Flower. He was elite. The Saints weren't. Edited March 4, 2012 by why you little

[darkhorse72 1,925]

"Elite players cannot be tagged out of a game.

Elite players can destroy an opposition single handedly

Elite players are rare."

Pretty close I reckon.

Basically an elite player can win a game for his side. Last elite player for us was Garry Lyon, who could win us a game by himself when he needed to. And I'm not talking about kicking a bag of goals.

[Bobby McKenzie 2,385]

Easily the most overused word by people in the media and the punters on forums like this, so what do people define as being "elite"?

Personally, as a rule of thumb I think of it as being in the top 1%. There are roughly 800 players in the AFL so I would consider being in the top eight or so players as "elite".

The magnificent 1956 Melbourne Football Team was definitely ELITE.

[Range Rover 1,935]

For me it's the All-Australian side and a handful of players on the fringe of it.

In fact I'd narrow that definition down further and say two AA guernseys proves it's no fluke and puts you in the elite bracket.

[Guest Jackie]

ELAN comes before ELITE in the dictionary. Produce the former then the later will follow.

Edited March 4, 2012 by Jackie