36, 52 & 54

[dee-luded 2,959]

Wow, we selected Darren Jarman and he chose to stay in SA. Didn't know we picked him nor could you refuse to go to the club.

Picked & payed a fee.

[Redleg 41,942]

Can anyone find a worse trade for us than 2007's John Meesen.

[Jordie_tackles 354]

Can anyone find a worse trade for us than 2007's John Meesen.

If Messen was fit he had alot to offer and pick 37 is nothing tbh? looks crap because he played 4 games

[rpfc 28,906]

Couldn't find Craig Turley in that list.

Ellis was good value for a spell, and Holland to a lesser degree, and Pickett to an even lesser degree (good to see him line up blokes though).

But Moloney, Bizzell, and Vardy were the really good ones. Enjoyed all three of their careers at the Dees.

[binman 44,530]

Wow, we selected Darren Jarman and he chose to stay in SA. Didn't know we picked him nor could you refuse to go to the club.

Yep, stayed in SA coz he wanted to go to the Hawks, told us so before the draft and then sat out the year (in the SANFL). Went to the Hawks in 88.

This has always rankled with me. In 19987 he would have been with us when he played the Hawks in the finals - who knows he may have been the difference. Instead he played with the Hawks team that flogged us in the 1988 GF

[old dee 24,001]

Can anyone find a worse trade for us than 2007's John Meesen.

2001 Luke Moylan not a trade but

nil games.

when you look through the list there were some poor ones, I guess it is not an exact science.

[old dee 24,001]

Best high number pick must go to Shane Woedonin 1996 PSD 18 and then he won the Brownlow.

Are there any better high number picks than 1997 Nathan Brown 66 and Guy Rigoni 77.

[daisycutter 29,892]

Couldn't find Craig Turley in that list.

He's probably in the "?' in the "1995 AFL TRADE ?" row

Will see if I can fill in the TRADE gaps and update list

[daisycutter 29,892]

Couldn't find Craig Turley in that list.

have added 1993/94/95 Trades to original list above

[daisycutter 29,892]

Can anyone find a worse trade for us than 2007's John Meesen.

Paul Ridley maybe?

[H_T 3,049]

Interesting list. Cheers dc.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Can anyone find a worse trade for us than 2007's John Meesen.

IIRC Meesen was pick #37. We traded pick 29 for PJ and he was a disappointment. So was Pickett for a mix of late picks plus pick 28.

Chris Heffernan plus pick 17 for pick 12. We downgraded 5 places and got nothing in return.

Can't find all the Rookie Drafts - anyone know where?

Try this for starters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFL_Draft#External_links

Click on each year down the bottom of the page

[daisycutter 29,892]

IIRC Meesen was pick #37. We traded pick 29 for PJ and he was a disappointment. So was Pickett for a mix of late picks plus pick 28.

Chris Heffernan plus pick 17 for pick 12. We downgraded 5 places and got nothing in return.

Try this for starters.

http://en.wikipedia....#External_links

Click on each year down the bottom of the page

Had already tried that. It is incomplete for Rookies

I think the AFL site has it but I haven't had time for a good search yet

[old dee 24,001]

Had already tried that. It is incomplete for Rookies

I think the AFL site has it but I haven't had time for a good search yet

Hope you have better luck than me DC

I find the AFL site poor, I always have trouble finding historial data.

But maybe it is me

[DemonWA 3,940]

Best high number pick must go to Shane Woedonin 1996 PSD 18 and then he won the Brownlow.

Robbo @ 68 in the same year. Some good value there!

[dee-luded 2,959]

Yep, stayed in SA coz he wanted to go to the Hawks, told us so before the draft and then sat out the year (in the SANFL). Went to the Hawks in 88.

This has always rankled with me. In 19987 he would have been with us when he played the Hawks in the finals - who knows he may have been the difference. Instead he played with the Hawks team that flogged us in the 1988 GF

If I remember correctly, we signed Both Jarmans. And got neither to come over. Hmmn. I think they saw us coming, & they headed Us Off @ the Pass.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Can anyone find a worse trade for us than 2007's John Meesen.

What about Greg Wells to carlton for Rod Ashman, but then at the last minute it all went pear shaped & we ended up with Michael Young,,, & Vin the cat Catoggio. Great recruiting coup that one, just Great.

[Redleg 41,942]

What about Greg Wells to carlton for Rod Ashman, but then at the last minute it all went pear shaped & we ended up with Michael Young,,, & Vin the cat Catoggio. Great recruiting coup that one, just Great.

Think you will find that was Barassi's fault. Dick seddon did the deal and it was Wells for Ashman, but then some Carltom Board members baulked. Seddon told Barassi to hold strong and we would get him but he buckled and took the two lesser players instead.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Think you will find that was Barassi's fault. Dick seddon did the deal and it was Wells for Ashman, but then some Carltom Board members baulked. Seddon told Barassi to hold strong and we would get him but he buckled and took the two lesser players instead.

Well, what ever it was, we ended up with the softest all time premiership player, & the fastest Afro in the VFL. what a mess.

[Hazyshadeofgrinter 80]

Best high number pick must go to Shane Woedonin 1996 PSD 18 and then he won the Brownlow.

Are there any better high number picks than 1997 Nathan Brown 66 and Guy Rigoni 77.

Junior?

[mauriesy 7,410]

Herald-Sun 'best-ever' draft picks:

31-40

Simon Black (31), Michael O'Loughlin (40), Sam Mitchell (36), Cameron Ling (38), Brendan Fevola (38), Paul Chapman (31), Leigh Montagna (37), Shaun Hart (33), Craig Kelly (34), Mark LeCras (37)

41-50

Adam Goodes (43), Brent Harvey (47), Corey Enright (47), Alistair Lynch (50), David King (46). Andrew Swallow (43), Darren Milburn (48), Heath Scotland (44), Dominic Cassisi (50), Chance Bateman (48)

51+

James Hird (79), Dane Swan (58), Daniel Bradshaw (56), Sam Fisher (55), Ryan O'Keefe (56), Cameron Bruce (64), Brian Lake (71), Chris Newman (55), Richie Vandenberg (78), Chris Grant (105)

Four Brownlow medallists in that lot.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 17,015]

DC, great work, but James Strauss is missing.

While it looks pretty poor, particularly prior to the late 1990s, I suspect every club looks something similar overall. Clearly Geelong did well when it recruited Bartel, Corey, Enright, Johnson (and Ablett) all around the same time, but they will also have had a swathe of misses.

Biggest surprise to me? That Brad Miller was drafted in 2001. I thought 2001 was a complete wipe-out for us. And i didn't realise he's been around this long.

[Wilson7 2,689]

A document i keep concerning all National Draft and Rookie Draft Selections

Preview

MFC Draft - National - Rookie.doc

Edited November 10, 2011 by DavidNeitz9

[old dee 24,001]

Herald-Sun 'best-ever' draft picks:

31-40

Simon Black (31), Michael O'Loughlin (40), Sam Mitchell (36), Cameron Ling (38), Brendan Fevola (38), Paul Chapman (31), Leigh Montagna (37), Shaun Hart (33), Craig Kelly (34), Mark LeCras (37)

41-50

Adam Goodes (43), Brent Harvey (47), Corey Enright (47), Alistair Lynch (50), David King (46). Andrew Swallow (43), Darren Milburn (48), Heath Scotland (44), Dominic Cassisi (50), Chance Bateman (48)

51+

James Hird (79), Dane Swan (58), Daniel Bradshaw (56), Sam Fisher (55), Ryan O'Keefe (56), Cameron Bruce (64), Brian Lake (71), Chris Newman (55), Richie Vandenberg (78), Chris Grant (105)

Four Brownlow medallists in that lot.

a single Dee and IMO a good one.

[daisycutter 29,892]

DC, great work, but James Strauss is missing.

While it looks pretty poor, particularly prior to the late 1990s, I suspect every club looks something similar overall. Clearly Geelong did well when it recruited Bartel, Corey, Enright, Johnson (and Ablett) all around the same time, but they will also have had a swathe of misses.

Biggest surprise to me? That Brad Miller was drafted in 2001. I thought 2001 was a complete wipe-out for us. And i didn't realise he's been around this long.

will have a check. its also missing a FS (Johnson) and some rookies and probably others

haven't had time to cross check it thoroughly

if anyone finds additions/corrections I'll add them to the orig