The Josh Caddy Thread

[hardtack 10,547]

If the story re Caddy wanting to relocate back to Melbourne so he could be close to his ill father is true, then you have to wonder just how much effort he is going to be willing to put into his on-field performance next year.

[old55 23,613]

Essendon was probably screwed - what could they really offer? Pick 18 wasn't enough and if you read between the lines probably one of our compo picks wasn't enough either. GC traded away all their later picks including that pick 26 to Richmond - they appear somehow to be only taking pick 24 - as JT says, I'm not sure how that works - they seem to have their own set of rules.

[Jordie_tackles 354]

Caddy would have been nice, next year we can decide weather to use or trade our compensation picks. Plenty of options, and we have some of few live compensation picks not at GC and GWS.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

Caddy was probably worth a fairly high draft pick or one and a half compo picks, not quite two. Thats life, we move on and still have our compo picks in hand and Viney to join us next year.

[old55 23,613]

Will be interesting to see if we activate both compo picks at the start of next year.

[Redleg 40,946]

Will be interesting to see if we activate both compo picks at the start of next year.

I would like to know what we offered GC for Caddy. Can't believe they would knock back a compo pick and a player or lower pick. They did get Warnock. If he wants to leave he goes into PSD next year if not traded home. I would get into him now if we want him and keep him on side. Of course we would only talk to his manager not him.

Edited October 17, 2011 by Redleg

[old dee 23,792]

I would like to know what we offered GC for Caddy. Can't believe they would knock back a compo pick and a player or lower pick. They did get Warnock. If he wants to leave he goes into PSD next year if not traded home. I would get into him now if we want him and keep him on side. Of course we would only talk to his manager not him.

Redleg I heard the GC guy on SEN say Melbourne was never involved, not sure where that came from.

And he will be waiting till the end of 2012 before he makes any decisions about 2013.

Edited October 17, 2011 by old dee

[old55 23,613]

I would like to know what we offered GC for Caddy. Can't believe they would knock back a compo pick and a player or lower pick. They did get Warnock. If he wants to leave he goes into PSD next year if not traded home. I would get into him now if we want him and keep him on side. Of course we would only talk to his manager not him.

It doesn't seem as though they would have wanted another player or another pick - they've got pick 24 and they traded away all their other picks (down to 85) - seems like they wanted a high pick or two. I'd imagine they were asking for both compos for say Caddy and 24 or 26 and we didn't want to go there - that's a deal we wouldn't do for Crouch either. GC ended up trading 26 + an end of 2nd round compo to Richmond for an end of 1st round compo.

[Redleg 40,946]

Redleg I heard the GC guy on SEN say Melbourne was never involved, not sure where that came from.

And he will be waiting till the end of 2012 before he makes any decisions about 2013.

That makes sense to me because if we wanted to get him we would have. He may have told us he wasn't interested.

[Whispering_Jack 30,207]

That makes sense to me because if we wanted to get him we would have. He may have told us he wasn't interested.

Which would surely have indicated that he didn't really want to go home for the reasons he was giving GC so I'd discount that possibility.

I reckon we couldn't get to talk turkey with GC because they were locked in mediation with Essendon and when that finished it was all too late.

[JACKATTACK 17]

I reckon we couldn't get to talk turkey with GC because they were locked in mediation with Essendon and when that finished it was all too late.

Harrington said exactly that on Trade Week Radio.

[Lutz 76]

To be honest, I think both GC & Essendon inadvertently screwed us.

Essendon with their pigheaded determination to get GoldCoast to take pick 19 & a few potato cakes, meant that GC were ties up in mediation and we didn't get enough opportunity to negotiate with them.

Gold Coast in willingness to waste time & not get a deal done in time, although appearing to try.

Partly because they'd like to keep Caddy, and partly because they need to send a message to the other interstate kids.

In the end, I'm pretty happy to have added a piece like Clark and got something back for Warnock, all while managing to keep both of our compo picks.

Shame Bate couldn't be moved though.

I very much doubt his value will increase in 2012.

[Lutz 76]

And seriously, what the hell use is mediation in this context?

Essendon asking really really nicely if GC doesn't mind getting screwed in a rubbish trade?

What use is an impartial referee in this process?

It just prolongs a stalemate.

[Redleg 40,946]

I reckon we couldn't get to talk turkey with GC because they were locked in mediation with Essendon and when that finished it was all too late.

That is ridiculous. We talked to them about Warnock. All we need to do is ring Caddy;'s manager, get his ok to deal and then offer a compo pick to GC and maybe a player and they keep Warnock pick as well. The deal would have been done. I don't think we went hard for him. Were we just waiting around to see if the mediation failed at 1.55 and then have minutes to deal? I think we were half hearted unlike Clark and that is the result. Maybe it is the result we really wanted, to have our compo picks next year.

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

We traded Warnock to them, so obviously they wanted him... why couldn't we include Warnock in a deal to get Caddy?

If the mediation process ate all our time, why couldn't we present a deal when the Warnock deal was made? Seems odd.

[Lutz 76]

That is ridiculous. We talked to them about Warnock. All we need to do is ring Caddy;'s manager, get his ok to deal and then offer a compo pick to GC and maybe a player and they keep Warnock pick as well. The deal would have been done. I don't think we went hard for him. Were we just waiting around to see if the mediation failed at 1.55 and then have minutes to deal? I think we were half hearted unlike Clark and that is the result. Maybe it is the result we really wanted, to have our compo picks next year.

As I said a few posts earlier - GC didnt really want to deal, they just wanted to look like they were trying to.

[rpfc 28,502]

As I said a few posts earlier - GC didnt really want to deal, they just wanted to look like they were trying to.

Seems that way.

A bit like us with Bate.

[Deestroy All 14,266]

I'm happy with this whole situation.

I like Caddy, would have liked to have obtained his services, but I doubt he's connected to one of Neeld's 'holes' in the list.

We keep our picks.

Essendon got screwed and frustrated.

GC did themselves no favours being so pig headed, especially considering Caddy's father's situation. I'm sure Caddy would be upset, that in turn effects the team mates close to him, probably also Victorians.

The Vic clubs will swarm all over GC as their talent starts to develop and come out of contract.

But really it's just great seeing Essendon fail.

[Tatu 416]

That is ridiculous. We talked to them about Warnock. All we need to do is ring Caddy;'s manager, get his ok to deal and then offer a compo pick to GC and maybe a player and they keep Warnock pick as well. The deal would have been done. I don't think we went hard for him. Were we just waiting around to see if the mediation failed at 1.55 and then have minutes to deal? I think we were half hearted unlike Clark and that is the result. Maybe it is the result we really wanted, to have our compo picks next year.

I'd say the comp picks were only really up for the mini draft, MFC have banked them for next year....

one to trade and one to use....

[BAMF 4,353]

What is this 'Mediation' rubbish?

Who calls for it?

I can understand Carlton calling for Mediation when Fremantle demanded 2 first round picks for Warnock.

But Essendon calling for it when they cant get away with paying under's just wrong. Glad they didn't get him.

[dee-luded 2,959]

That is ridiculous. We talked to them about Warnock. All we need to do is ring Caddy;'s manager, get his ok to deal and then offer a compo pick to GC and maybe a player and they keep Warnock pick as well. The deal would have been done. I don't think we went hard for him. Were we just waiting around to see if the mediation failed at 1.55 and then have minutes to deal? I think we were half hearted unlike Clark and that is the result. Maybe it is the result we really wanted, to have our compo picks next year.

yeah, I wonder if we decided O'night to keep our 2 comp's for a tilt at the best Option next year or after.

Our 2nd comp' pick would be better spent next year as we climb the ladder in years to come, but the mid round pick will hold its current value.

I'd be hopeful that 1 or 2 players will want to return home next year. Maybe Gaff or a Prestia or other. Dangerman, or we can use our picks ourselves.

[dee-luded 2,959]

I'm happy with this whole situation.

I like Caddy, would have liked to have obtained his services, but I doubt he's connected to one of Neeld's 'holes' in the list.

We keep our picks.

Essendon got screwed and frustrated.

GC did themselves no favours being so pig headed, especially considering Caddy's father's situation. I'm sure Caddy would be upset, that in turn effects the team mates close to him, probably also Victorians.

The Vic clubs will swarm all over GC as their talent starts to develop and come out of contract.

But really it's just great seeing Essendon fail.

I agree. It almost sounds as if the dons cooked up an scheme to try to get a cheap shot at a cheap buy, and things started to wobble a bit. Looks like Caddy wanted to carry Hirds bag for him & him alone.

The stories fallen over and he's stayed put, for another, Day?

[RalphiusMaximus 6,054]

one to trade and one to use....

Nah. We will use them both since our first pick will go to FS Jack Viney. Two first rounders and Young Jack is a nice start in what is supposed to be a strong year.

[Redleg 40,946]

As I said a few posts earlier - GC didnt really want to deal, they just wanted to look like they were trying to.

Bingo.

[Fitz Fitzpatrick 886]

Im happy the club still has those compos up its sleeve. therell be a bunch of gun midfielders from GWS that by this time next year will be sick of getting their wheels nicked off their new cars every time they go to training. theyll be begging to come back to Vic