The bogey man - Adam Goodes, RD 1

[stuie 7,374]

Can't believe yuou've put up Bartram and Jones for the job. Talk about a left field proposal. I'd say height would be an obvious concern in the defensive 50m arc....

Yeah, not my pick as our best players, love their endeavor though, I guess I'm more thinking of players who will try their guts out on him without getting too disparaged and who we can kinda afford to sacrifice a little bit... That is why I'd not like Grimes on Goodes, who would start our rebound thrusts? Warnock? MacDonald? I think not...

Besides, Goodes spends more time in the middle and slotting them FROM the 50m arc doesn't he? If he decides to venture in maybe then the plan would be to have Garland, or even spare man Rivers pick him up? Not really such a left field proposal...

[Mad_Melbourne 877]

Garland is the likely option to line up on him when he comes inside the forward 50, or playing on the flank, or even on a wing for mine, as he is the only one who is likely to match him for speed and strength.

Macdonald is the second option, and could well run around on him all day.

Grimes, ridiculous, his defensive side of his game is definately not his strong point, and if sydney saw a match up like that it would be goodes alone in the forward 50 and he would be stoked, and longmuir would think coaching is the easiest job in the world.

Warnock, and rivers are likely to be too slow, but rivers is maybe a possibility.

if he moves into the guts then a possibility of bail chasing, but really if he goes into the centre, Nathan Jones will be a possibility, only for a ridiculously hard tag, but the fact remains he is too short.

Or just put sylvia next to him if he lines up in the middle, and back sylvia into having a break even or better game than him, although sylvia could well be getting the hard tag.

Another option i just thought of is Tapscott maybe, younger, good engine, bailey wants him in the backline, physically could match it, and we wouldnt mind him playing up the field, but probably too inexperienced

[RalphiusMaximus 6,088]

Wait, when did Stef Martin magically develop speed? Don't get me wrong, I think he has a lot of potential and looks to have worked hard in the pre-season, but he'd be left in Goodes dust from the first bounce...

You don't think we drafted him for his mad skills and footy smarts do you? He has always been an athlete trying to pass as a footballer. His great strengths are his speed and agility, both of which are amazing for a guy of his size. He came second in the grand final sprint in 2008.

[Nasher 33,617]

You don't think we drafted him for his mad skills and footy smarts do you? He has always been an athlete trying to pass as a footballer. His great strengths are his speed and agility, both of which are amazing for a guy of his size. He came second in the grand final sprint in 2008.

I sniggered at that post too. The two things Stef does have are speed and height. We're just waiting for the rest to turn up.

[DeeSpencer 26,083]

Garland or Rivers when he's up forward. Probably start with Col. I'd consider Dunn for when he goes into the middle but I think Goodes will play the majority forward.

Grimes isn't a bad suggestion. You would have to concede a couple of goals in the air but at ground level he would stick on him.

[george_on_the_outer 7,708]

One has to wonder if some people actually go to the football....

Adam Goodes plays the ruck-rover type role and runs, runs, runs all day long. He is neither forward or back. He is everywhere!

SO to suggest he will be "picked up by...." in the forward line and "picked up by..." in the backline is laughable.

Morton was used to good effect to match him last time, but is injured. Bruce was used in the past, but got carved up time and time again.

Wrathchild has come up with the only logical match in Dunn. You need someone who is tall and can run with him all day.

But as Nasher noted, he is an effing good footballer, so expect him still to kick goals and be effective. You won't stop him, just try to limit the damage he can do.

[Little Goffy 14,645]

Who cares, Goodes had a massive game, kicked 4 goals last year and we still won by 73 points.

P.S I wasn't at that game cos I was on a date with a girl. The date was fun although I regret not being there for our big win

Must've been something in the air that day - I missed the game for a girl too. All I've got to refer to is the youtube video with the 'behind the scenes' footage of Mcaveny and Commetti...

[stuie 7,374]

I sniggered at that post too. The two things Stef does have are speed and height. We're just waiting for the rest to turn up.

Snigger all you like, but in a MATCH I've never been impressed by his speed and/or agility, draft camp tests and running races might make things seem better, but during A GAME OF FOOTY I've never thought anything other than he seems to lumber a bit. To suggest he could run with Goodes all day is ridiculous, especially seeing he might not even get a game that day.

[stuie 7,374]

One has to wonder if some people actually go to the football....

Adam Goodes plays the ruck-rover type role and runs, runs, runs all day long. He is neither forward or back. He is everywhere!

SO to suggest he will be "picked up by...." in the forward line and "picked up by..." in the backline is laughable.

Morton was used to good effect to match him last time, but is injured. Bruce was used in the past, but got carved up time and time again.

Wrathchild has come up with the only logical match in Dunn. You need someone who is tall and can run with him all day.

But as Nasher noted, he is an effing good footballer, so expect him still to kick goals and be effective. You won't stop him, just try to limit the damage he can do.

Ummmm yes, most of us go to a lot of footy during the year, do you? Heard of zones?

Edited March 14, 2011 by stuie

[DemonWA 3,936]

i reckon garland would be our best bet if goodes plays as predominantly a forward. He's got good speed, and go-go-gadget arms for the spoil

Unfortunatley i think Bailey will give the job to Jones, who will get demolished and then tweet about how it was such a great learning experience...

[Allen Jakovich 516]

Snigger all you like, but in a MATCH I've never been impressed by his speed and/or agility, draft camp tests and running races might make things seem better, but during A GAME OF FOOTY I've never thought anything other than he seems to lumber a bit. To suggest he could run with Goodes all day is ridiculous, especially seeing he might not even get a game that day.

Obviously you watch footy without seeing what happens out on the ground then.

For a guy of his size Steph is super quick and that's just a fact. No point arguing it.

But I agree he's not the best choice for Goodes unless he stays forward for the whole day, which is very unlikely.

[stuie 7,374]

Obviously you watch footy without seeing what happens out on the ground then.

For a guy of his size Steph is super quick and that's just a fact. No point arguing it.

But I agree he's not the best choice for Goodes unless he stays forward for the whole day, which is very unlikely.

I'm not talking about "for his size", I'm talking about keeping up with Goodes and general speed. Goodes won't slow down to adjust for his size.

[Mad_Melbourne 877]

One has to wonder if some people actually go to the football....

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SO to suggest he will be "picked up by...." in the forward line and "picked up by..." in the backline is laughable.

This actually happens alot in modern football, through some midfield taggers not wanting to play in the backline, when the forwards go back to rest the role is assumed by a defender, and then when they move back into the field the tagger gets the job.

It is a harder role to do with Goodes, due to his size, but definately would not suprise me if when he plays in the forward line he is matched up by garland, and then as he runs through the midfield he is put through a hard tag.

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,234]

One has to wonder if some people actually go to the football....

Adam Goodes plays the ruck-rover type role and runs, runs, runs all day long. He is neither forward or back. He is everywhere!

SO to suggest he will be "picked up by...." in the forward line and "picked up by..." in the backline is laughable.

Morton was used to good effect to match him last time, but is injured. Bruce was used in the past, but got carved up time and time again.

Wrathchild has come up with the only logical match in Dunn. You need someone who is tall and can run with him all day.

But as Nasher noted, he is an effing good footballer, so expect him still to kick goals and be effective. You won't stop him, just try to limit the damage he can do.

Goodes has played predominantly at centre half forward during the pre-season.Not saying he wont drift on ball but that is not the role he has played. Is it reasonable to play Lynden Dunn as a tagger if he plays on ball when he has trained as a forward all preseason? I dont think there is any easy answer to this one. For mine I would not tag him if he played on ball but have a defender who is told to zone from his man if Goodes drifts forward.

[e25 5]

Sydney are struggling up forward and that is where Goodes will likely play predominantly.

[hardtack 10,627]

Can't believe yuou've put up Bartram and Jones for the job. Talk about a left field proposal. I'd say height would be an obvious concern in the defensive 50m arc....

Who had the job on him last year? I had a feeling Bartram had the tagging role and did very well, which led me to believe he would be the obvious choice as well... but that said, I really can't guarantee my memory anymore.

[e25 5]

Who had the job on him last year? I had a feeling Bartram had the tagging role and did very well, which led me to believe he would be the obvious choice as well... but that said, I really can't guarantee my memory anymore.

Morton is injured this time around.

Last time, Goodes was the only player for the Swans to win for the day.

Morton tried, but was beaten soundly.

The time before that, Morton actually kept Goodes fairly quiet.

[Doggo 32]

With MacDonald being a reasonable option. Surprised he hasn't been mentioned.

Agree, although when i think about it, i probably didnt pick him as an obvious option because of a lack of pace. His ability to play outside of defensive 50 is a bit unknown. Might pick him up at stages, but wouldn't entrust "the job" on him.

[Doggo 32]

Snigger all you like, but in a MATCH I've never been impressed by his speed and/or agility, draft camp tests and running races might make things seem better, but during A GAME OF FOOTY I've never thought anything other than he seems to lumber a bit. To suggest he could run with Goodes all day is ridiculous, especially seeing he might not even get a game that day.

I remember him kicking a ripping running goal at Etihad against Essendon once, showed a real turn of speed for a big bloke. 2009 maybe, Jurrah's first game? Also, dont really recall him being burnt on the lead too often when playing back before he made the transition into "forward/ruckman", which he has no doubt been disappointing at to this stage.

Don't think he could run with Goodes, but to say he's slow is just unfair. Slow "of mind" perhaps, but the kid can run.

[stuie 7,374]

I'm more than happy to talk about Martin's speed for someone his size in the Stef Martin thread, but here we're talking about matching up on Goodes yeah? Hey, he might do the trick as the man to take him inside 50, but I would think he'd be at least the 22nd in line to match up on him that day.

[The Chazz 4,077]

Like the minority on here, I can't believe people have mentioned Jones or Bartram to tag him. Goodes - 194cm, 90kg. Jones 180cm, 82kg. Bartram 181cm, 82kg. If Bailey used either of those 2 to tag Goodes, he should be immediately sacked - and I love Bails! We'd be better off putting Scully on him - at least we know he'd run over the top of him. Some people

Goodes WILL play a majority of the game on the ball. Yes, sure, we will see him in their forward line a fair bit, but that'll be when he is either having a break, or if he has followed the ball down there. I wouldn't even waste my time playing Garland on him should he go for a rest - put Joel Mac on him if anyone.

Lynden Dunn is the perfect man to play on Goodes. Matches him with height, weight and has a pretty good motor. If the ball is in Melbourne's forward line, he will make Goodes accountable becuase he knows how to kick a goal. Morton would be playing on him again if he were playing. I can understand why some people would say that Goodes gave him a hiding, but I believe Cale handled himself quite well, and would only improve next time around.

I do like the idea of giving Trengove a taste too, think it will be good for that kid.

Still amazed at the amount of people saying Jones or Bartram. It is quite embarrassing.

Edited March 14, 2011 by billy2803

[Je Roos Salem 661]

Must've been something in the air that day - I missed the game for a girl too. All I've got to refer to is the youtube video with the 'behind the scenes' footage of Mcaveny and Commetti...

WOW! I hope it went well

[Je Roos Salem 661]

And by the way, comparing a Dual brownlow medallist and premiership player to nostril discharge is a bit rough i think

[dee-luded 2,959]

Who had the job on him last year? I had a feeling Bartram had the tagging role and did very well, which led me to believe he would be the obvious choice as well... but that said, I really can't guarantee my memory anymore.

I think Bartram is way too small for Goodes, who IMO plays small, for a tall guy. And I think Martin is too tall, fast in a straight line, but hasn't the tank for a player like Goodes, unless he's transformed.

So I think we need to find a tall player who has speed agility & great endurence? Well there's Watts, he may be almost strong enough, by now. Dunn has the speed and height, and can focus on stopping. Garland, but they'll just draw him away from our backline, further weakening a weakened defence. Gysberts, & Howe. I doubt these boys would currently be fit enough.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Like the minority on here, I can't believe people have mentioned Jones or Bartram to tag him. Goodes - 194cm, 90kg. Jones 180cm, 82kg. Bartram 181cm, 82kg. If Bailey used either of those 2 to tag Goodes, he should be immediately sacked - and I love Bails! We'd be better off putting Scully on him - at least we know he'd run over the top of him. Some people

Goodes WILL play a majority of the game on the ball. Yes, sure, we will see him in their forward line a fair bit, but that'll be when he is either having a break, or if he has followed the ball down there. I wouldn't even waste my time playing Garland on him should he go for a rest - put Joel Mac on him if anyone.

Lynden Dunn is the perfect man to play on Goodes. Matches him with height, weight and has a pretty good motor. If the ball is in Melbourne's forward line, he will make Goodes accountable becuase he knows how to kick a goal. Morton would be playing on him again if he were playing. I can understand why some people would say that Goodes gave him a hiding, but I believe Cale handled himself quite well, and would only improve next time around.

I do like the idea of giving Trengove a taste too, think it will be good for that kid.

Still amazed at the amount of people saying Jones or Bartram. It is quite embarrassing.

I like your thinking 'billy'.