Isaac Smith

[Moonshadow 17,677]

13 minutes ago, AaronDaveyChipsAndGravey said:

Jay Clark reporting that Isaac Smith is still up for grabs. Probably can’t add much more to this thread, but can’t believe we’re not having a serious look at him. 

I get the knock on his age, but he just oozes class and was last year a potential captain of the club. Just what we need - good kick, still quick, leadership and wont be coming at a premium price. 

Started a bit later than most. He was drafted at 22 years old, I believe. Think he may have another 1 maybe 2 decent years left. I'd be for it at the right price. Think Clarko would want more than we should offer.

[AaronDaveyChipsAndGravey 390]

28 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

 Think he may have another 1 maybe 2 decent years left. I'd be for it at the right price. Think Clarko would want more than we should offer.

Fair point, really depends where the club thinks its truely at in terms of contending again. 

[Dee tention 617]

We are in the Premiership window. Discount this year! Yes from me.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,939]

On 9/20/2010 at 3:49 PM, Demon Tragic said:

Played a great game in the VFL Grand Final and showed some dangerous pace. Worth a look in at least in the rookie draft.

You’d make a good recruiter.

9 years later and the blokes an absolute gun.

Yes please if we can get home for a 3rd rounder.

[Demon Disciple 12,274]

Bloke can run and kick it a mile. Yes

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

Absolute no brainer for the right price.

 

[hemingway 7,631]

Isaac would be great for us. Reads the game well, pace, good mark and kick, experience and leadership and sets up a lot of plays on the spread. 

But his interests are elsewhere. There may be an offer from the Dees but there will be no acceptance. 

[whatwhat say what 22,946]

Hawks want way too much for him

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Apparently Hawks wanting a pick before 25. Seems pricey for a bloke who turns 31 this year, as much as I like him.

Not sure if it will be related to it, but Hawthorn are going to ask for special permission to trade their first round pick this year too. (according to Gerard Whateley).

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

Just now, Lord Nev said:

Apparently Hawks wanting a pick before 25. Seems pricey for a bloke who turns 31 this year, as much as I like him.

Not sure if it will be related to it, but Hawthorn are going to ask for special permission to trade their first round pick this year too. (according to Gerard Whateley).

Watch this AFL give special permission - we wouldn't want the Hawks or Cats to go backwards anytime soon.

[hemingway 7,631]

3 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Apparently Hawks wanting a pick before 25. Seems pricey for a bloke who turns 31 this year, as much as I like him.

Not sure if it will be related to it, but Hawthorn are going to ask for special permission to trade their first round pick this year too. (according to Gerard Whateley).

Given his late pick (age 22) he is a young 31.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

3 hours ago, hemingway said:

Given his late pick (age 22) he is a young 31.

It's not a guarantee though that he's got more time in him. I just think within the context of our year and list situation it would be unwise to use such a high pick on such an old player. If we had made finals this year it would be another story.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

Like the idea.  Langdon and Smith on both wings seems like a big improvement to me.

Our overweight mid stocks need outside  balance and incentive to get the ball wide to players in space instead of so many clustering on the inner rim and attracting more tackles / heat and subsequently more turnovers.

Getting the inside / outside balance right and giving incentives to the likes of Clarry & Viney to look outside as their first option and training/drilling this into them.

Going to be a hard habit to break but to fix our woes with some of these insane inside hand balls, sometimes to a phantom player that isn't there or straight to the opp, this is a must fix for Goody & the FD if we are to become a regular winning unit.

What are we going to have to give to get though?

Smith & Langdon could be an awesome circuit breaker that sees us go from a reasonable bounce back in 2020 to a potential finals contender again.

We certainly don't want another rediculous 'overs for Lever' situation but would also not want to miss out if it means throwing in a steak knife or two.

Clarko just might be willing to barter a little more kindly also, given the Lewis legacy, the compliments Lewis gave the club and the way we went out of our way to involve the Hawks in his final pressor/send off.

Edited August 31, 2019 by Rusty Nails

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,708]

9 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Apparently Hawks wanting a pick before 25. Seems pricey for a bloke who turns 31 this year, as much as I like him.

Not sure if it will be related to it, but Hawthorn are going to ask for special permission to trade their first round pick this year too. (according to Gerard Whateley).

Tell'em there dreamin.

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,708]

For our 3rd or 4th rounder, 2 year deal on a 400k-500k with an option for a third if certain performance triggers are hit.

I reckon we should explore the possibility for sure.

[DemonOX 8,800]

9 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Apparently Hawks wanting a pick before 25. Seems pricey for a bloke who turns 31 this year, as much as I like him.

Not sure if it will be related to it, but Hawthorn are going to ask for special permission to trade their first round pick this year too. (according to Gerard Whateley).

You watch us dumb arses give pic 20. Put ur house on it. 

Its the melb way!!!!

[Ethan Tremblay 30,966]

I’m hearing whispers that GC will use an early pick on Smith, somewhere around 17-19. Doesn’t this mean they’ll get two PP’s?#Ihearwhispers #ETthetradebreaker. 

Edited September 1, 2019 by Ethan Tremblay

[Moonshadow 17,677]

MFC future 2nd round pick?

[Ethan Tremblay 30,966]

16 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

MFC future 2nd round pick?

If Hawthorn need cap space and Smith wants to stay in Melbourne I reckon a 3rd round pick would get it done. 

[Moonshadow 17,677]

7 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

If Hawthorn need cap space and Smith wants to stay in Melbourne I reckon a 3rd round pick would get it done. 

Possibly. If they are after Patton, Martin or others they may need some cap space. Hawks always seem to pull off these ridiculous deals.

But they also have a departing raft which might include Roughy, Poppy, Birchall and Schoey. 

3rd rounder would be lovely, thank you!

Edited September 1, 2019 by Moonshadow

[Bay Riffin 1,480]

52 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I’m hearing whispers that GC will use an early pick on Smith, somewhere around 17-19. Doesn’t this mean they’ll get two PP’s?#Ihearwhispers #ETthetradebreaker. 

That’s the only way Clarko would consider it. Think he was around pick 19

Edited September 1, 2019 by Bay Riffin

[Parmalove 91]

Would love a guy like smith on a two year incentive based deal.  But can someone catch me up on why Hawthorn would be looking to trade him?  

[hemingway 7,631]

18 hours ago, Parmalove said:

Would love a guy like smith on a two year incentive based deal.  But can someone catch me up on why Hawthorn would be looking to trade him?  

My mail is that it is not so much that the Hawks want to trade Isaac but more the case that Isaac wants a change that will maximize his remuneration for the remainder of his career.

The implication is that in the past Isaac has accepted less favourable terms to stay at the Hawks. 

Added to that is the rumour that the relationship between player and Clarkson is not strong at best. .

   

[Wiseblood 24,637]

On 8/31/2019 at 10:36 PM, DemonOX said:

You watch us dumb arses give pic 20. Put ur house on it. 

Its the melb way!!!!

If he had any interest in us, or vice versa, it would probably end up being a relatively similar deal to the one that got us Jordan Lewis.

[binman 43,762]

3 minutes ago, hemingway said:

My mail is that it is not so much that the Hawks want to trade Isaac but more the case that Isaac wants a change that will maximize his remuneration for the remainder of his career.

The implication is that in the past Isaac has accepted less favourable terms to stay at the Hawks. 

Added to that is the rumour that the relationship between player and Clarkson is not strong at best. .

   

i can't see him wanting to pack up his family and head off to GC. Every chance he'd be keen on the dees i reckon. And we could pay him pretty well.