5 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Hardly the reason we lost though. Whoever the sub was, they weren't going to fix the catastrophic failure through the midfield and across our "leaders" to arrest the momentum or take ownership of the game.

It's a mini 186, I could see Gawn falling on his sword at the end of the season re the captaincy.

Though not sure who we have who could provide the kind of leadership we needed in that 4th quarter. We have some great warriors, not sure we have many great generals.

8 hours ago, bing181 said:

It's a mini 186, I could see Gawn falling on his sword at the end of the season re the captaincy.

Except there is absolutely nobody at the club who could do better. Gawn basically acknowledged that on the Front Bar last Wednesday.

And that's not because Gawn's a great on field leader, it's because there is a significant leadership void at the club. Losing Brayshaw and Neal-Bullen in recent years has hurt in many, many ways.

We need to do what Adelaide did and parachute our next captain into the club.

Oh sweet!

I just assumed this was a Sunday game and I might have been drawn in to watch, but I'm out on Saturday!!!!

HUZZAH!!!!

Same thing I said for the St Kilda game before it had commenced, who cares.

Terrible last quarter, but the first 3 were good. Hard to see many changes. Sharp in Spargo out. Would love to see Oliver dropped but Goodloss loves him.

Can't understand the hate for Spargo he ran onto the ground and did a bone crunching tackle.

I really wonder what Sparrow does. He must do something but why Windsor gets subbed off before him is a mystery

Put Petty in the backline ffs

oh dear god there's another game

I am not over the other one yet...

Eagles can smell blood …

15 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Take note of what?

Sharp’s proven to be a very ordinary footballer who’s had multiple goes as the sub and rarely done anything. He’s got some speed but it’s only useful on the very rare times he’s got a clear run to goal and he has no smarts in traffic.

He also needs to play some full games. He’s been subbed off 7 times and the sub twice.

If we had a genuinely quick forward capable of winning the pill and making an impact they’d be playing in the best 22.

I’m not sure why you’re focussed on our weakest position with tall forwards and flankers. Our 5 million dollar midfield fell apart and there’s nothing at Casey. He ran out of puff after half time so subbing him was totally reasonable but at least they finally had a look at Windsor in the guts.

I think Chandler is developing. I feel it is either him or Spargo, but not both.

We also had a very inexperienced (and smallish) defence yesterday with TMac the only really experienced defender. Bowey (Daniels !!) and Salem are not exactly 'Brutes" and Disco,Howes and McVee still have "L" plates on. A lot of improvement in there.

Have to agree that Petty is a better defender than forward.

We thought we had a big forward in Grundy which backfired on us.

You know what thought thought !!

The team is going to need a big reset before Saturday. I watched a lot of the Eagles game and they aren't very good, but they've got spirit. That's all it took for the Saints to beat us.

We really need to start thinking about next year. I was surprised at Petty and Sparrow going in and Spargo being sub, but I haven't got selection right at all this year.

A statement should be made at selection. Drop Oliver would be one. Love the bloke but his disposal is killing us.

Spargo is a pressure forward, and is ahead of Kolt, which is probably why he got a game. 100% support Petty down back but it seems Goodwin doesn't. Absolutely no harm in getting Luker or Jeffo in there. I thought McVee was poor defensively - we need to make sure everyone picked cares enough to have a go.

Any truth to the speculation that Harley Reid's out for this one? Add him to Oscar Allan, Waterman, Yeo, McGovern etc....

Meanwhile we'll be mentally ruined after yesterday as they return to the scene of the crime 6 days later.

Yesterday I was devastated after the loss. Next week I'll just laugh if we get done.

4 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Yesterday I was devastated after the loss. Next week I'll just laugh if we get done.

would be such a melbourne thing if we somehow lose next week and then go on the win 2 or all of the last 3🫠

3 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

I really wonder what Sparrow does. He must do something but why Windsor gets subbed off before him is a mystery

We have several very good wingmen in the team, yet Sparrow spent half of yesterday's game wandering up and down the wing by himself doing SFA in front of me.

He was (nominally) opposed to Brad Hill for most of that time, including when Hill kicked the grubber goal in the last quarter. Sparrow got unnecessarily sucked into the contest at a boundary throw in, Hill stayed out and was in perfect position to receive the ball and kick the goal under a minimum of pressure.

He and Spargo are two nothing footballers who have gone miles backwards since 2021, yet are picked each week on reputation alone. They'd be the first out if I was in charge.

18 hours ago, layzie said:

This pre game thread sucks

Not as much as Harry Petty and JVR getting another game next week. Suck on that one!

1 hour ago, poita said:

We have several very good wingmen in the team, yet Sparrow spent half of yesterday's game wandering up and down the wing by himself doing SFA in front of me.

He was (nominally) opposed to Brad Hill for most of that time, including when Hill kicked the grubber goal in the last quarter. Sparrow got unnecessarily sucked into the contest at a boundary throw in, Hill stayed out and was in perfect position to receive the ball and kick the goal under a minimum of pressure.

He and Spargo are two nothing footballers who have gone miles backwards since 2021, yet are picked each week on reputation alone. They'd be the first out if I was in charge.

Last year Windsor look like hed play 15 years as a wingman. Goodwin put paid to that.

I know it will label us as flat track bullies but we need to smash WC by about a 100 points. We have to show a ruthless streak minimum as a first step to atonement. If we can do this, then it’s is something to build on for the rest of the season and next season. We are good enough to do it whilst they are still a decimated rabble. We just need the distracted Fab Four in the middle to co-ordinate their arses into gear and set the stage.

21 hours ago, goodwindees said:

Spargo would be everything you don’t want in a Sub. First & foremost, you want your Sub to come on with fresh legs to outrun the opposition and provide a spark. Spargo comes on in the last quarter and he’s still the slowest player on the field.

I spoke pre game with some mates about the Saints fielding a smaller, quicker team, and for that reason we all thought Sharp was a better Sub on the fast track at Marvel.

Except Spargo is very much part of Goodwins circle of trust and belief that it’s still 2021

No longer good enough for AFL football

Who cares

5 hours ago, Young Angus said:

Put Petty in the backline ffs

Sure, but even in the backline he'll need to hold his marks.

Hopefully May in for ... someone out (backline).

Up forward, presumably out one of Petty or JVR, though amongst the carnage we did manage 13 goals by 3/4 time, so something was going right.

57 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Hopefully May in for ... someone out (backline).

Up forward, presumably out one of Petty or JVR, though amongst the carnage we did manage 13 goals by 3/4 time, so something was going right.

Your first wish has been quashed, mores the pity.

Maybe we'll get change at the other end. Not going to count on much personally.

Simple

Who at Casey has the passion

22 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Hardly the reason we lost though. Whoever the sub was, they weren't going to fix the catastrophic failure through the midfield and across our "leaders" to arrest the momentum or take ownership of the game.

FWIW there's no world in which Spargo should ever be the sub, and IMO he shouldn't be anywhere near the 23 anyway, but focusing on the sub selection today is really not at all important.

Amen to that, Spargo is not a senior level talent.