Just so frustrated.
I'd like to tee off on all the things I've said before but I can't be bothered.
Maybe tomoz.

13 minutes ago, jaydenh10 said:

im just lost for words i dont know what to say, 4 years same [censored]. we have been told that at 1's and 2's training the goal kicking is a [censored] take muck around not serious at all.

I know. If i was Head Coach, Goalkicking Practices would be a mandatory requirement for every player on a regular basis.

Similar to the Australian Cricket Team back in the 80’s, all players including bowlers had to bat in the nets.

And guess what, the Tailenders started making valuable contributions to an innings and games were won….

The Lack of care towards goalkicking by ALL Players has cost us Finals and at least one Flag

We are now in the Bottom 4

Just catching up on first crack. Kings teed off on our back 6 & the match ups & how goody has to take responsibility.

They also spoke about our mids butchering the kicks into our forward line time & time again

9 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

Just catching up on first crack. Kings teed off on our back 6 & the match ups & how goody has to take responsibility.

They also spoke about our mids butchering the kicks into our forward line time & time again

Yeah just watched it too. They're 100% right. Some people will say stuff like, "Well Goodwin can't kick the ball for them" and that's true, but what Goodwin can do is ensure we have a different mix of players kicking the ball inside 50 and yet he picks the same 3 butchers.

1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

On point 1, is it a surprise that we competed better auerially up forward when Turner was shifted there? We've been crying out for that for weeks! Not only having Turner there but having him alongside other talls. JVR looked good early then was shifted to ruck/bench and taken away from the forward line no wonder he struggles to find form.

Turner must stay forward, JVR must stay forward and not ruck. Bring TMac back and either put him in defense to replace Turner or move Petty back (he is absolutely useless forward) and TMac or Jefferson to the forward line.

On point 2, what does he expect when we bring Viney back to start in the middle with Petracca and Oliver. It's all good and well to blame the midfielders but selection plays a large part of it.

Also the dump kicking doesn't just happen under pressure, it happens when we have a mark/free kick between the arcs and have time to make a decision. We should be looking for the switch but instead just go long and high, so easy to defend against it is infuriating.

So true.

Everyone knows that Disco is a better option forward than Petty.

Apart from the coach.

Why has it taken so long and then why wasn't Petty sent back? He just ends up clogging the forward line and getting in the way.

An open forward line seems the only way we convert at the moment.

JVR = Jessie Hogan v2 at this rate. He's continually being played out of position. So much hope he was turning the corner after the first and then he spends the rest of the game anywhere but near the sticks.

May is a warhorse. He's been wonderful but I reckon he's just getting slower as the game is getting faster. He walks with the gait of a 70 year old on a waiting list for a hip replacement.

It doesn't help that he's still going off his [censored] at team mates when he's not delivering himself. It's not good leadership.

Nor is the incredible Max Gawn who busts his guts around the ground but can't kick a goal.

Viney used to be Ble to kick em too.

I remember muttering at times "yeah captains goal" it's been a while.

Where's TMAC? How does Howes keep getting a game?

Goal kicking.

Is on the players but, if they're not fixing it themselves then what the hell are the coaches doing to maybe you know, kinda maybe suggest "hey guys would you mind staying back for half an hour to try a few set shots which aren't helicopter punts from the boundary" at training.

Dead set we're not that bad, we just seem like a bunch of disorganised, tryin hard, soccer lovin', loose units out there.

But geez they love their coach.

3 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

To be fair it seemed Turner was on him for the first 3 or 4. Either way, the way the ball was being delivered would've been hard for anyone to defend that.

May was on Georgiades for 6 of his 7 goals

He is now officially a liability. Like 15 of his team mates

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I know. If i was Head Coach, Goalkicking Practices would be a mandatory requirement for every player on a regular basis.

Similar to the Australian Cricket Team back in the 80’s, all players including bowlers had to bat in the nets.

And guess what, the Tailenders started making valuable contributions to an innings and games were won….

The Lack of care towards goalkicking by ALL Players has cost us Finals and at least one Flag

We are now in the Bottom 4

AGAIN

6 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

with the list we have.

You watched the match?

2 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

Just so frustrated.
I'd like to tee off on all the things I've said before but I can't be bothered.
Maybe tomoz.

Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow (Steven Wright).

4 hours ago, Howard_Grimes said:

Of course it is, it's an enormous elephant in the room that nobody wants to admit.

Huffs and puffs all year when his team mates make errors but aside from last week against the pies, he has been incredibly inconsistent within games and regularly making howlers.

He must be a very difficult personality to manage as coach. His emotion/care-factor/pride are simultaneously huge strengths and weaknesses.

The problem is we have no respect for our opponents, (thinking we are are still the fabulous INVINCIBLES of '21) hence all the inwardly-focussed savaging of our NQR'S. The problem is we lack a gorilla forward, hence all the savaging of our not-quite good enough goal-kickers who have to fashion goals out of extreme negativity. Tier One teams can just import whomever they like into their teams and just waltz up to the goals like the jolly swagman. We are expecting heroics out of Gawn, Petracca, Oliver et al, who are expected to be master extractors on every occasion, and in every situation. For a sober, black and white perspective on our goal kicking yips just look at all the slapstick misses and blunders by Barassi Townsend, Kenneally, Lord, Vagg etc (barrass0.4, Vagg 0.5, Lord similar) in the recently recovered HEROICS of '64 video. If by chance Froggy Crompton had not snapped our one and only last quarter goal we would no doubt have crucified that whole team into early retirement. And they didn't have a gorilla forward either, unless of course John Lord is accused of being a gorilla.

Not forgetting we hardly have an injury at the moment. So this is the best our full list can deliver.

41 minutes ago, The Trunk said:

Not forgetting we hardly have an injury at the moment. So this is the best our full list can deliver.

Accept the point, but there are players there who are coming back from longer term injury/out and are not back up to speed. Lever and Viney the main two, but McVee and Windsor aren't the players they were last year.

9 of their 14 goals in second half of quarters compared with 3 from us.

Kings birthday on the back of Alice trip had some effect.

We are super consistent at killing our own momentum, so bloody frustrating.

Just saw a bleary eyed tmac going through Adelaide airport, didn't look too happy.

7 hours ago, bing181 said:

What's this "corridor" they speak of?

2 minutes ago, Brownie said:

What's this "corridor" they speak of?

It’s that mythical place between the boundary line and Goody’s imagination.

Rumour has it Spargo saw it once in 2021 and hasn’t been the same since.

It’s starting to feel a lot like 1968. The similarity being four years past a Premiership, still lots of Premiership players but the vast majority fading. Need some big decisions from the club on coaches and a few players.

Sparrow and Petty

Season ending misses

2 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Sparrow and Petty

Season ending misses

Professional footy players should not be missing those, you would be ropeable if they were park players missing them let alone supposedly elite athletes. Unforgiveable, they should feel horrible about that failure of basic skill execution.

12 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Free kicks 21-13

It’s the goals from frees and 50m penalties that is the important stat and the last two games it is something like 12 to 2 against us, though some of them were simply our dumb play.

How many times in the last two games did you hear the commentators say “that was a soft goal from a free to the opposition and Dees were unlucky near goal not to get a free”.

Rarely hear “that was a soft free kick goal to the Dees.”

But we know the reason we are losing and it is poor skill in ball use, poor inside F50 entry and atrocious kicking for goal.

25 minutes ago, Redleg said:

It’s the goals from frees and 50m penalties that is the important stat and the last two games it is something like 12 to 2 against us, though some of them were simply our dumb play.

Every one of those 50 metre penalties yesterday were there, and probably all of the free kicks inside 50 as well. Our discipline has been terrible in recent weeks and we deserve what we get.

Viney's effort in the third quarter was disgraceful, particularly given the limited time remaining in the quarter, and I'd drop him for that alone.

7 minutes ago, poita said:

Viney's effort in the third quarter was disgraceful

It was shocking. I just don't think we were good enough to win that game, but going in to three quarter time just two goals down would have made them nervous.