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PREGAME: Rd 06 vs Fremantle

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    i'll be surprised if we manage to restrict the damage to 50 points

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    I just want at least 2 of Jefferson/Turner/Fullarton/Johnson playing.

    JvR should never be a solo fwd and expected to chop out in the ruck.

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    I really hate to single out a pkayer but JVR is a big problem for our midfield. He refuses or is unable to get separation and lead flat out at the ball carrier (and hsi ball read and bodywork is sub par). He's just not quick enough and his only strength is his pack crashing ability which the game has moved away from. He's taken 6 marks in 5 weeks. He needs to play back or be dropped. At this point its not about confidence, you have to make tough calls and realise he isnt the right piece for this puzzle.

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    JVR needs to improve but my god he needs support in the forward line. I can't believe we're expecting him to play as our solo key forward and as a second ruck.

    Incredibly poor from the coaching staff to not select Johnson/Turner (not that I think it would've made much of a difference to the result tonight...)

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    13 minutes ago, Jjrogan said:

    I really hate to single out a pkayer but JVR is a big problem for our midfield. He refuses or is unable to get separation and lead flat out at the ball carrier (and hsi ball read and bodywork is sub par). He's just not quick enough and his only strength is his pack crashing ability which the game has moved away from. He's taken 6 marks in 5 weeks. He needs to play back or be dropped. At this point its not about confidence, you have to make tough calls and realise he isnt the right piece for this puzzle.

    Wow, only 6 marks all season for JVR!?

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    The fact we rolled out one key forward who is also expected to play as a back up ruckman was pretty dumb. Get two of Turner, Fullarton or Jefferson in. Expecting that JVR might have a better game today with our second tall being 188cm was a shocking decision.

    Sparrow should be put on notice, 10 disposals in 2 weeks is simply not good enough. Tagging role last week, no excuses this week. Spargo had a shocking first half but had a good second half. He was brought back too soon off that achilles injury and deserves a chance to build on that.

    Both games against Fremantle last season we were shredded in clearances. More Pickett, Rivers and Langford, rotate Petracca through and throw Viney on a HFF. I'm beating the same drum but Vines can't keep playing midfield, he's too slow and fumbly. Getting feasted on by quicker, younger and hungrier players. Coaches should consider giving some of our own younger guys such as Lindsay and Windsor a run through there, the latter should be nowhere near the backline.

    Not sure many of these changes help us defend the oppositions uncontested ball movement through the middle of the ground, that's clearly a system issue and is not an overnight fix. Here's hoping we're not on the end of another bloodbath at the G next week.

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    Goodwin stating he's more likely to back the senior players in to turn their form around than make changes to the team.

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    Since there’ll be about 20 of us at the MCG what sandwiches shall I bring? Who’s in charge of the cheese platter? Easter egg hunt at half time 😂

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    1 minute ago, deegirl said:

    Since there’ll be about 20 of us at the MCG what sandwiches shall I bring? Who’s in charge of the cheese platter? Easter egg hunt at half time 😂

    Chicken, lettuce and mayo please.

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    If the Easter weather is good I can’t see us getting close to 20k at this.

    Having been through the tortuous experience of watching both West Coast and Melbourne live on the same day it’s going take a lot of therapy to get me there.

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    Given our recent issues against Freo i think this is the week we hit rock bottom. As in our first 80+ loss for the year.

    I assume Goodwin will coach for a 12.8.80 to 7.8.50 kind of loss.

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    Having only van Rooyen as the key forward was never gonna work too much on the kid they expect him to be Carey he's no Carey.

    They need 2 key forwards with Fritsch as the 3rd tall, I don't care who they are. Give Fullerton a go we have to see what he's capable of.

    B: Petty, May, McVee

    HB: Salem, McDonald, Bowey

    C: Langdon, Langford, Windsor

    HF: Chandler, Johnson, Petracca

    F: Fritsch, Fullerton, Spargo

    FOLL: Gawn, Oliver, Pickett

    IC: Lindsay, Sparrow, Viney, Rivers

    SUB: Melksham

    In: McVee, Johnson, Fullerton

    Out: Sharp, Henderson, van Rooyen

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    OUT: Sparrow (100 and out, never to be seen again), Hendo
    IN: McVee, Jefferson

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    Out: JVR, Sparrow, Melksham, Henderson

    In: Fullerton, McVee, Adams, Brown

    Petty to stay forward and Adams is deserving of a promotion. JVR needs to head to the VFL to find some form and Fullerton needs to be rewarded. McVee straight in as long as he can run out a game allowing Rivers permanent midfield time or one of Lindsay or Windsor back to a wing. Brown brings speed and defence to our forward 50 ground balls.

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    Sparrow - what can you even say? He's not good at a single thing, and the guys around him aren't good enough to hide that anymore. At least JJ could run. Sparrow has been gifted 100 games. What role does he play? Non-goal kicking/non-tackling/non-marking high half forward?

    Sharp - can't do much besides run and kick the odd goal. Why not play him on the wing?

    JVR - so out of touch its actually damaging. Let him kick a couple of bags and reset at Casey. An Anzac Eve call up is his carrot.

    Henderson to sub - clever player, but not much of an impact from the start.

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    McVee - finally allows Rivers to move to full time mid

    Jefferson - showed something, will hopefully just lead. I'm not optimistic but I'm hopeful.

    Fullarton - has to come in off his Casey form. Petty to stay back to combat their insane number of KPFs.

    McVee - May - Petty

    Salem - McDonald - Bowey

    Chandler - Oliver - Langdon

    Melksham - Jefferson - Fritsch

    Pickett - Fullarton - Spargo

    Gawn - Petracca - Rivers

    Langford - Lindsay - Windsor - Viney

    Henderson

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    IN: Me. I'll be there. Can't wait to get back to the 'G. We are lucky to play there while we are still playing in the AFL.

    There are clearly a number of issues (selection, performance, effort, playing style) going on that indicate the leadership is failing. I would like to see old leadership OUT and new leadership IN. Doesn't have to be a person, can be an approach.

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