On 12/04/2025 at 13:46, DemonWA said:

Not great, but disgusted by the so called fans who are teeing off.

That [censored] from the dee brief needs his head checked

What did he say that wasn't right?

  On 12/04/2025 at 13:45, Tom Dyson said:

I know much has been made of our impotent forward half, but can we take a second to acknowledge how leaky and broken our defence has become, so far this season our opponent has an average final score of 100.3

Let that sink in, so far this season on average, we concede 100 points a game, that is mindboggling from a team that use to barely allow the opponent to get past 65.

It doesn't matter if we fix everything up in the forward half if our defence continues to perform to such a poor standard.

The coaching structure has been a complete failure. Chaplin was doing a good job in defence they've moved him into attack and we can't kick a goal. Get Chaplin back to the backline where it worked so well. Bassett can be in charge of the disfunctional forward line.

  On 12/04/2025 at 13:08, dees189227 said:

The afl site had gawn, pickett, trac then langdon then bowey as our best.

I'd say langdon was hands down our best

Rubbish Gawn was BOG. Don't know how Trac got in the bests thought he was average.

  On 12/04/2025 at 14:36, DeeNA said:

I think fans have every right to “tee off” .. 5 wins and 15 losses in the last 20 matches is diabolical.

The guy from the deebrief is gutted like we all are. Don’t pot him for showing some emotion.

I'll pot fans for carrying on like they are entitled to see a premiership side roll-out just because you buy a membership.

Saddle up part time supporters

  On 12/04/2025 at 14:27, Surfer Dee said:

I can forgive that we suck. Ageing players, injuries, getting out coached... I'd have accepted this if the price was a flag 4 years ago.

I just can't accept how boring we are. I'd rather lose 100-150 than the way we play now. It's worse than being bad. It's dull. It's pathetic.

Goodwin's coaching for his life, surely he sees that it's either show something or he's gone? Wouldn't you throw some caution to the wind??

Agree.

I've been bored to tears for the most part of Goodwins tenure.
Always hated watching the Swans under Roo's.
Hated watching the Aints and Dockers under Lyon.
Would often tell people if they were playing in my front yard I'd pull the curtains.
Now I've been stuck watching us.
I remember after the ANZAC game in '22 when we strangled Richmond to death it was either Brayshaw or Langdon who stated in a post game interview "We plan to make these blockbuster games as boring as possible."
I thought then ..... "NO, that's not how you excite kids, get prime time games and build a supporter base for the future."
And now here we are pulling 20k for home games.

We had a huge opportunity to build the club on the back of the flag and we've blown it by being an ugly side to watch.
Even when we were winning.

The team lacked fight. Everything you need to know. We put in the effort in Q3 and we outplayed them.

It can be that simple. Hard-Work-Beat-Talent and the team is not working hard enough.

The big question is WHY?

  On 12/04/2025 at 16:02, GS_1905 said:

The big question is WHY?

Indeed, the big question. And as always with big questions, no simple answer.

Confidence? Trust? Leadership for me is a big one, especially when the ship looks rudderless : lost ANB, there's still a Gus-shaped hole in the balance of the team, Lever out long-term, not any real leaders coming through amongst the mid-age group, etc.

All they can do is work through it.

Goodwin to go

Viney is finished as a footballer at Melbourne. Find a new club and role

Oliver , finished at Melbourne. Just jogging around, looks bewildered younger hungry players are taking him apart.

one of Trac and Kossie will go

Fritta might go

This weeks podcast could be the audio of three men rummaging through a dumpster looking for something of value.

  On 12/04/2025 at 16:02, GS_1905 said:

The team lacked fight. Everything you need to know. We put in the effort in Q3 and we outplayed them.

It can be that simple. Hard-Work-Beat-Talent and the team is not working hard enough.

The big question is WHY?

The word you seek is "disconnect"

We're playing something only marginally better than Zombie football.

I think it's fair to surmise no one out there really believes in the game. They're trying to convince themselves but actions speak louder.

The players don't believe.

Football, often described as a game of percentages, only requires you be slightly off, slightly slower , slightly less committed.... and you may as well not be there.

I enter into evidence..... MFC

No joy in suggesting this. Just what is....

Hard to believe in something when your gut tells you otherwise.

And here we are

Is there anywhere that publishes a transcript of the presser/post-match interviews? I wouldn’t mind knowing what was said but I can’t face actually listening to any of them right now..

  On 12/04/2025 at 21:15, Fromgotowoewodin said:

Is there anywhere that publishes a transcript of the presser/post-match interviews? I wouldn’t mind knowing what was said but I can’t face actually listening to any of them right now..

I thought he was good. Accepted it wasn’t good enough re the effort, JVR a better player than what he’s producing atm and we have lots to work on etc.

Yeah but that’s kinda what [censored] me. We’ve had lots to work on since 2023, forward line has been an issue since 2022 and we’re just getting worse - can’t keep hearing the same thing week after week

  On 12/04/2025 at 14:25, Supreme_Demon said:

Another coach killing performance.

Simon Goodwin keeps repeating himself.

afl.com.au

Full post-match, R5: Demons

Watch Melbourne’s press conference after round five’s match against Essendon

The definition of madness is repeating the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

Unfortunately, the Demons players just don't seem to respond to him anymore. They all love Goody as a mate but they don't seem to respect him very much. Otherwise, they would play with the intensity and ferocity required to win.

Simon is now "delulu with no solulu" it seems. Best that he falls upon his sword and leaves rather than gets sacked. We can all then start fresh.

Time to start calling John Longmire, Adam Simpson, Justin Leppitsch and other potential coaching candidates for season 2026. Time for change.

As I and many others on here have said he should have been cleared 2 years ago

Many on here defended him when his performances didnt warrant it

So here we are with wasted 2 years and a damaged and under developed list doing what should have been done

The people who run this club are a joke

8 minutes into the first qtr I was doing my Wordle (3rd row), 12 minutes in I was pouring another drink, a few mins after that I wasn’t paying much attention and by qtr I had turned it off and went out to enjoy the quietness of a country night lit up by the full moon.

I honestly don’t think I’ll bother tuning in much anymore until we play a good brand of football, I watched some of the North-suns game and the Doggies - Lions and both were decent watches. Shame when you look forward to watching other teams play, but we are back to that.

  On 12/04/2025 at 21:22, Kent said:

As I and many others on here have said he should have been cleared 2 years ago

Many on here defended him when his performances didnt warrant it

So here we are with wasted 2 years and a damaged and under developed list doing what should have been done

The people who run this club are a joke

He was never going to be sacked 2 years after a flag with two top 4 finishes under his belt

  On 12/04/2025 at 21:29, Undeeterred said:

He was never going to be sacked 2 years after a flag with two top 4 finishes under his belt

Exactly. No coach gets sacked after one down year, but the wheels are off now so I think he's gone

And the worst thing - one of the worst things, anyway - is the smugness of the so-called experts sitting back, grinning and saying 'We tipped this, the Dees' plunge down the ladder!'

  On 12/04/2025 at 21:35, Fromgotowoewodin said:

Exactly. No coach gets sacked after one down year, but the wheels are off now so I think he's gone

Hate hearing the line it's only round 5 and it's a long season. We have lost 15 out of the last 20 games, we concede so much 4th quarter goals. Our experienced players are repeat offenders and blaze away into forward 50. You'd think we'd have a decent forward coach, we are so boring to watch.

  On 12/04/2025 at 15:58, DemonWA said:

I'll pot fans for carrying on like they are entitled to see a premiership side roll-out just because you buy a membership.

Saddle up part time supporters

Most fans probably just want to see an AFL level competitive team roll out most weeks and win a few games here and there as bare minimum.

Especially against trash teams like Norf, Essington & WC.

Not the local old boy amateurish hour we've been dished up with in the last 19 games or so.

We are presently unwatchable bar the odd quarter in a few random games.

Can barely kick 6 to 8 goals. 8 or 9 apparently a good day 😆

Rubbish game style with constant turnovers and bog ordinary effort from far to many with too much always left to too few.

Dysfunctional forward line with one KF that is so out of form he would probably struggle at Casey right now but keeps getting a game and told to just keep working on his game at senior level. Pls forgive some supporters for realising they are more than likely in for more under-performance and low / losing scores that pretty much won't win a game against anyone other than WC, and even that's a big ask!

Our methods / game style, whatever they are, aren't working.

We can't bring a pressure game and force turnover for longer than one quarter or so, poor skills, constant clangers, ball watching and too many getting sucked into contests allowing the oppo to spread, run & carry into their forward half at will as we chase tail most of the game.

Senior school boy stuff!

That Membership is down 18% from the 2023 peak tells the tale.

We are quickly heading back to being a laughing stock and irrelevant once again and all you want to blame and pot is member behaviour. Hilarious.

Edited April 12Apr 12 by Demon Dynasty

  On 12/04/2025 at 21:50, samcantstandya said:

Hate hearing the line it's only round 5 and it's a long season. We have lost 15 out of the last 20 games, we concede so much 4th quarter goals. Our experienced players are repeat offenders and blaze away into forward 50.

Complete delusion. He said that it will turn soon and we'll be on our way. That is simply not happening. We might pluck a couple of wins out of the blue against decent teams that have a shocker on the day or are devastated by injury, but this team is not about to find any kind of momentum.

Have been in denial since the straight sets in 22, our trading in of older rejects has done nothing to improve our list, is list mgt or blind faith or have those long expensive contracts sucked up the cap we agreed to trac, Oliver , Viney , Brayshaw?? Has this fractured the group?? The whole club is in denial with no leadership

  On 12/04/2025 at 22:19, The Taciturn Demon said:

Complete delusion. He said that it will turn soon and we'll be on our way. That is simply not happening. We might pluck a couple of wins out of the blue against decent teams that have a shocker on the day or are devastated by injury, but this team is not about to find any kind of momentum.

He said that?

I’m really doubtful of that

  On 12/04/2025 at 22:31, Superunknown said:

He said that?

I’m really doubtful of that

he did say it.

he reckons our form will turn and we'll be on our way.

and he reckons he's still the man to coach the team and has the credentials needed.

I actually thought it was one of his better post-game press conferences. he showed belief in himself and the team

Unfortunately, there absolutely zero evidence that we will turn it around. 15 mins here and there won't cut it. If it was going to turn it would have done so by now.