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Luke Jackson back to Victoria?

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25 minutes ago, Jjrogan said:

The issue is not whether rucks are valuable or invaluable but are you (WE) willing to devote more percentage of your cap to a ruck. The output gap between 2nd best ruckman and 16tth best is actually really small. The wage gap is huge. Apart from flynn/williams who is the worst ruckman in the league. Couldnt tell you myself.

Without Max the gap will be even smaller. Taking Jackson would mean in a few years we will be paying our ruckman more as a percentage of cap than we do to Gawn. (He's criminally underpaid). Sure Jackson also doubles as a forward but id say the clubs that have enjoyed the most success over the past decade have underpaid their rucks for the output they get not overpaid (including us). Thats the way to do it.

He is a fine player, but Jackson is too expensive for what he procduces week in week out imo. However, it wouldnt be a list killing move like tdk at 1.6 would be.

Yep, that's reasonable argument (Jackso is too expensive for what he produces week in week out).

It points to the fact that whilst all clubs have a designated number one ruck few have a highly paid second ruck - Freo being one obviously (by the by i argued at the time Freo were crazy to go so hard for Jackson given their investment in Darcy).

However, i'd argue that getting Jackson in is worth the riskin of putting too many eggs in the ruck basket.

One, Maxy and Jacko clearly had a synergy as a ruck duo that makes them a very effective duo imo.

Two, we obviously need a better back up ruck than we currently have.

Three, it might actually extend Maxy's career as we would be much less reliant on him playing huge game time week in week out.

And four, it would represent the perfect succession plan in terms of replacing Maxy when he retires.

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    37 minutes ago, binman said:

    Three, it might actually extend Maxy's career as we would be much less reliant on him playing huge game time week in week out.

    And four, it would represent the perfect succession plan in terms of replacing Maxy when he retires.

    How many more years can we extend his career!

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    25 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    How many more years can we extend his career!

    Maxy has said he I'd fitter now than he has ever been.

    Goody should get some props for ensuring he gets way fewer big hits this season, which will help extend him.

    Given those two factors, and maxy's incredible resilience, I could see him playing until he is 36, which would take him until the end of the 2027 season (he turns 36 Dec 2027).

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    15 hours ago, mmwd6 said:

    I mean if you read the full quote Houston never actually lied. They're all carefully crafted statements.

    Even from Jacksons manager today it all alludes to him staying, but reading the words he actually stops short of saying that explicitly.

    He isn't preparing to seek a trade but maybe in a month he will 😉

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    On 09/05/2025 at 17:20, GS_1905 said:

    Amiss has such strong Weideman vibes.

    That be the funniest put down I have read in years GS. Cannot get the smile of my face.

    Edited by old dee

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    Now I’ll say upfront that stats isn’t the be all and end all of measuring a players impact on a game - in particular SuperCoach points. But it does provide some insight relevant to the this recent discussion in the thread around importance of rucks.

    SuperCoach player ratings have 4 of the top 11 players as rucks based on total points (same players in top 15 when considered S averages). Gawn and XErri are actually 1 & 2 based on total points.

    Not saying that settles the argument, but SC ratings are based on Champion Data and they know a thing or two about player impact.

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    the point is often missed that not only is gawn the best ruckmen in the game, but he's also one of the better midfielders

    he runs around the ground collecting marks and possessions seemingly at will

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    9 minutes ago, Demonland said:

    God he’s getting a police escort by longmuir…not that that matters as he neither of them will be there next year 😂

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    28 minutes ago, Demonland said:

    That reminds me so much of John Howard

    “There will never be a GST….”

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