53 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Presently 15.8% down on 2024

-18% on our 2022/23 peaks

We may struggle to hit 55k.

Should be 70k plus if we had kept the consistency of 2021-2023.

I still think that with a rejuvenated list and coaching staff, and playing some exciting style of footy, things can improve fats. Regardless if we play finals or not.

Give me 2018 again.

Plenty will sign up once Goody and his boring game plan have left the building.

22 minutes ago, sydneydee said:

Plenty will sign up once Goody and his boring game plan have left the building.

to be perfectly honest, anything over 50k is a 'win' for mfc - our standard attendance is 25k or thereabouts; our membership-to-attendee # remains quite strong

the notion that we are a big or even a mid-sized club is a misnomer; we're clearly not - we're always around about par with the aints, and barely ahead of footscray and north, purely from a membership perspective

at our most successful, post-premiership, we achieved around 70k members - at our lowest ebb, a bit over a decade ago, we were around half that i seem to recall

now, admittedly, memberships for all clubs have 'grown' since the mid 00s, but memberships are a 'nice' thing for the club not something that actually effects the day to day of what is happening from an afl-wide or an organisational standpoint; from head office's pov the only thing that matters is that broadcast revenue (from the saudi pif via dazn now) and wagering revenue (from a myriad of gambling agencies) continues to rise

They just grilled our membership dropoff on Footy Classified apparently? Did anyone see it?

17 hours ago, praha said:

They just grilled our membership dropoff on Footy Classified apparently? Did anyone see it?

Yep they just showed the drop away vs what was projected by Pert just after the flag and put up his quote saying we were aiming to become a big club with 75k members and big crowds etc

33 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Yep they just showed the drop away vs what was projected by Pert just after the flag and put up his quote saying we were aiming to become a big club with 75k members and big crowds etc

Just the vulture media eating the carcass. How come they did not talk about this in 2022 or 2023?

We have lost 9,794 members vs 2024 (so far).

Let's conservatively say each membership brings in roughly $120 on average

Leaving us roughly $1.17 million down on 2024

16 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

We have lost 9,794 members vs 2024 (so far).

Let's conservatively say each membership brings in roughly $120 on average

Leaving us roughly $1.17 million down on 2024

I calc the average cost to be $190 so the drop in revenue is close to $1.875 ml.

On a slightly brighter not, to offset that, the club might make special membership offers to help. And ANZAC and KB being Home games will also help offset the lost membership revenue.

It is next year that the $ pain will be felt!

Edited April 16Apr 16 by Lucifers Hero

3 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I calc the average cost to be $190 so the drop in revenue is close to $1.875 ml.

On a slightly brighter not, to offset that, the club might make special membership offers to help. And ANZAC and KB being Home games will also help offset the lost membership revenue.

It is next year that the $ pain will be felt!

...plus the sponsorship dollars when the sponsors realise there are 20% fewer Melbourne members to sell product to.....

3 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I calc the average cost to be $190 so the drop in revenue is close to $1.875 ml.

On a slightly brighter not, to offset that, the club might make special membership offers to help. And ANZAC and KB being Home games will also help offset the lost membership revenue.

It is next year that the $ pain will be felt!

Who would bother going to those marquee games to watch our woeful efforts.

I've been twice this year & its obvious to me & everyone around me the glaring tactical problems but the Brains Trust seems oblivious.

what surprises me a little is the assumption that the membership fall is simply a result of the teams lack of on field success .I suspect that a significant group of supporters are completely disilluisioned by the AFL attitude to the Dees.They have had to swallow the AFls handling of tne Brayshaw incident ,the Mac Andrew Drafting ,the Petracca incident and free agency compensation .It is apparent that we do not rate highly at headquarters and we seem always to be behind the 8 ball with the AFL.

4 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I calc the average cost to be $190 so the drop in revenue is close to $1.875 ml.

On a slightly brighter not, to offset that, the club might make special membership offers to help. And ANZAC and KB being Home games will also help offset the lost membership revenue.

It is next year that the $ pain will be felt!

Bring on the Serious personel changes

It has to happen

2 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

Who would bother going to those marquee games to watch our woeful efforts.

I've been twice this year & its obvious to me & everyone around me the glaring tactical problems but the Brains Trust seems oblivious.

Don’t worry CF there will be plenty of Tigers and Filth supporters to take our places in the stands. Should still get 50 & 70k.

Haven’t even ticked over 49k for members yet.

60k is now a pipe dream.

8 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

...plus the sponsorship dollars when the sponsors realise there are 20% fewer Melbourne members to sell product to.....

And less marquee/ prime time games to expose their brands.

17 hours ago, DeeZone said:

Don’t worry CF there will be plenty of Tigers and Filth supporters to take our places in the stands. Should still get 50 & 70k.

They would have been budgeting 75k-80k you would think so 50k & 70k would be a huge blow (dollar wise)

44 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

They would have been budgeting 75k-80k you would think so 50k & 70k would be a huge blow (dollar wise)

If members don’t turn up their $$’s are already in the till, the filth and Tiges $$’s are always welcome and the way that pies are playing they might fill the stadium.

17 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Haven’t even ticked over 49k for members yet.

60k is now a pipe dream.

Sad but true Demon Disciple looks like we have gone back to our 20-21 numbers, the boys better get their skates on or next year could be a train wreck.

28 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

If members don’t turn up their $$’s are already in the till

AFL finances are rubbery at best but I'm not certain this is exactly how it works

24 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

AFL finances are rubbery at best but I'm not certain this is exactly how it works

Sorry Dr. Gonzo what I meant is our membership dollars are already in the clubs bank acct whether we turn up or not. Not sure how the AFL distribute the extra dollars from oppo supporters but I would imagine the more that turn up the better for our bottom line.

1 hour ago, DeeZone said:

Sorry Dr. Gonzo what I meant is our membership dollars are already in the clubs bank acct whether we turn up or not. Not sure how the AFL distribute the extra dollars from oppo supporters but I would imagine the more that turn up the better for our bottom line.

Yeah I think it's more the stadium that pays out based on attendances rather than the AFL but who knows. I remember seeing charts a while back stating how much each club made from different crowd numbers at MCG and Docklands, the MCG dollars went up significantly after 60k (and it didn't distinguish between members/non-members).

This is severely out of date but look at page 8 in this document from 2011.

AFL funding doc

Edited April 18Apr 18 by Dr. Gonzo

Increasing membership to beyond 75,000+ members will be a goal for new Demons CEO Paul Guerra.

However, alot of that is interconnected with team performance. Gotta win more games!

The Home Base at Caulfield Race Course needs to be the number #1 priority for the Melbourne Football Club.

After that, then it will be about growing membership numbers.

Nevertheless, the only way to greatly increase membership over the long term is sustained success. Over 20 years of success to create new generations of Melbourne supporters and members. This means winning more Premierships!

The future of the club depends on the kids who come on board after the premiership.
Let them grow as demon supporters and turn them into membership buying adults.
You need to hold their attention and Goodwins ugly uninspiring gameplan has bored them to tears since.
No kid wants to go watch their team scramble 10 goals and lose.
We don't start playing some consistent exciting footy soon the club will wither and die a slow death.
If Goodwin can do it, fantastic.
If he can't .... Get rid of him ASAP.

I don't think he can.
He's had plenty of time to fix issues and hasn't.

I see the club is handing out free tickets to this week's game and 3 game memberships to residents of the City of Casey.

I'm guessing the cost of this is fairly negligible given that these people probably wouldn't be attending games without the handout. Although maybe some smart Hawthorn fans will take up the offer instead of buying tickets at the gate.

However it is further evidence that membership numbers are completely bogus and pointless given that our membership numbers might increase, but our membership dollars don't.

46 minutes ago, poita said:

I see the club is handing out free tickets to this week's game and 3 game memberships to residents of the City of Casey.

I'm guessing the cost of this is fairly negligible given that these people probably wouldn't be attending games without the handout. Although maybe some smart Hawthorn fans will take up the offer instead of buying tickets at the gate.

However it is further evidence that membership numbers are completely bogus and pointless given that our membership numbers might increase, but our membership dollars don't.

It's would all be about getting new people's contact details into the system.

No financial benefit is going to come of it now with the club less likely of finals footy.

The first four weeks of footy are always crucial in getting the fence sitting members on side. Unfortunately, we didn't do that this year.