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On the smaller side but very much the style of mid we're lacking

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    Does basically everything to a really high level, as close to a sure thing as a draft prospect can get i would say. 

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    More likely the first pick for Richmond. We would be lucky to get him with pick 5 or 6 or whatever it turns out to be.

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    He got moves

    Like Jagga

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    Just now, layzie said:

    No chance he slips to 5.

    Trade up or please yourselves 

    I’m hoping he goes top 5 so we can get someone better. I don’t see it at all. 

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    1 minute ago, DeeSpencer said:

    I’m hoping he goes top 5 so we can get someone better. I don’t see it at all. 

    I'm confident we'll get someone good at 5. Trusting in JT.

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    If there was a formal scale for measuring peripheral awareness and anticipation, the benchmarks would go from Jacob Koschitzke through to Scott Pendlebury. I think Jagga Smith might give Pendles some competition.

    Neither of Smith of Windsor will ever be big guys, but having those two driving our ball movement out of contests could be transformative.

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    7 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

    If there was a formal scale for measuring peripheral awareness and anticipation, the benchmarks would go from Jacob Koschitzke through to Scott Pendlebury. I think Jagga Smith might give Pendles some competition.

    Neither of Smith of Windsor will ever be big guys, but having those two driving our ball movement out of contests could be transformative.

    Windsor will be a big boy in a couple of preseasons I reckon, but agree with your point

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    Cal mentioned that Adelaide are interested in Draper and Langford. Carlton also have interest in FOS and Draper. North seem most interested in Tauru. I think we could very well see Jagga slide to our pick.

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    I think Richmond wanting to trade for pick 2 is all about not being able to split Lalor and Smith. If North trade pick 2 to Richmond they will both be gone.

    North getting pick 6 and wanting Tauru is dangerous because we might take him at 5. It would be a gamble for North but they also recognise that Tauru is probably a pick 6-10 so they are in a sense overpaying for their man if they hold their pick and take Tauru at 2.

    If North hold their pick and take Tauru we are a huge chance to get Smith at 5. Or Lalor.

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    29 minutes ago, deespicable me said:

    I think Richmond wanting to trade for pick 2 is all about not being able to split Lalor and Smith. If North trade pick 2 to Richmond they will both be gone.

    North getting pick 6 and wanting Tauru is dangerous because we might take him at 5. It would be a gamble for North but they also recognise that Tauru is probably a pick 6-10 so they are in a sense overpaying for their man if they hold their pick and take Tauru at 2.

    If North hold their pick and take Tauru we are a huge chance to get Smith at 5. Or Lalor.

    Lalor would be amazing

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    13 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

    If there was a formal scale for measuring peripheral awareness and anticipation, the benchmarks would go from Jacob Koschitzke through to Scott Pendlebury. I think Jagga Smith might give Pendles some competition.

    Neither of Smith of Windsor will ever be big guys, but having those two driving our ball movement out of contests could be transformative.

    His awareness and ability to weave through traffic is unparalleled in this draft. The way he moves at such speed in traffic and zips around is eerily similar to Butters. He didn't test through the roof for the 20m sprint (was still good), but he's constantly moving at such high speed around the ball that to the eye he's the fastest midfielder out there. He's so strong through the hips already, if he can add some upper body strength in a proper AFL environment then the skies the limit. Not hard to see him becoming a Lachie Neale type midfielder winning a Brownlow. He's probably the safest bet in the entire draft to become a good player.

    He's a leader too, being a captain this year. Would be a good point of difference to the bigger slower Trac and Clarry types we have and could lead the next generation after them. If he fell to our pick 5, it would be a very bold call not to draft him. 

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    1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

    His awareness and ability to weave through traffic is unparalleled in this draft. The way he moves at such speed in traffic and zips around is eerily similar to Butters. He didn't test through the roof for the 20m sprint (was still good), but he's constantly moving at such high speed around the ball that to the eye he's the fastest midfielder out there

    Butters comparisons have done the impossible and overtaken people using ‘moneyball’ in the wrong context as my most hated demonland phrase.

    Smith stays on the move at stoppages at a high level, but he’s almost always going sideways and backward. The few times he runs forward with the ball he gets chased down.

    It will take Jason Taylor zero seconds to not pick him at 5.

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    6 minutes ago, Supreme_Demon said:

    Who is a better kick?

    Jagga Smith or Harvey Langford?

    I think it's Langford.... but I'm not an expert in these matters...

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    1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Butters comparisons have done the impossible and overtaken people using ‘moneyball’ in the wrong context as my most hated demonland phrase.

    Smith stays on the move at stoppages at a high level, but he’s almost always going sideways and backward. The few times he runs forward with the ball he gets chased down.

    It will take Jason Taylor zero seconds to not pick him at 5.

    Definitely agree that the Butters comparison is a poor one.

    But you keep mentioning that he most often goes sideways or backward with the ball. Why is this such a bad thing? Jagga's first priority is to find players in space which he does incredibly well. He'll draw a few players, use his hip strength and agility to get himself free enough to give the ball off to players in space and generally on the move. Football's not played in straight lines, fluid ball movement is about changing the angles and this kid has terrific vision to find players in space to make the next play. He very rarely throws it on the boot and values his possessions and uses his team mates to link up for forward entries. We're dying for more players like this.

    I'm assuming you would rather a big-bodied mid to break the lines and run forward with the ball? Thats not Jagga's game, but what he does do is give the ball off and get on the move running forward himself for the next receive. He's got such a great balance and inside/outside game. 

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    Smith himself said on Gettable that he models his game on Butters. He also said that in the second half of the season he concentrated on metres gained after his coach Rob Harding pointed out he was not impacting with his possessions.

    He can win the ball at will, that's an under-rated skill, and as he said it's very difficult to teach.

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    2 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Butters comparisons have done the impossible and overtaken people using ‘moneyball’ in the wrong context as my most hated demonland phrase.

    Smith stays on the move at stoppages at a high level, but he’s almost always going sideways and backward. The few times he runs forward with the ball he gets chased down.

    It will take Jason Taylor zero seconds to not pick him at 5.

    The comparisons are being made because they're blatantly obvious. He moves exactly like Butters, down to the quick short gait in his stride, pivot of hips and spins to avoid tackles. He's not as penetrating of a kick as Butters, but he wins more hard ball and positions himself better.

    He was more pure clearance extractor earlier in the season, and so handballed sideways and backwards out of congestion more often. As the season wore on he altered this and by the end of it he was bursting out front of stoppages regularly, dare I say Bang, Bang, Bang style. He's rarely run down also due to having extraordinary reflexes like Clarry to get a handball off in the rare occasion someone manages to catch him.

    He's not the mid-forward bull JT usually goes for, but he'd be a worthy pick 5. 

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    Huge chance he gets through to No.5 if Richmond uses its No.1 pick on Sam Lalor as many are now predicting. If they do, North will go Tauru as they don’t want Smith because they already have enough quality small mids.

    The Blues are committed to O’Sullivan and the Crows want Draper which leaves us deciding between Smith, Langford and Armstrong.

    In that scenario, if we want Smith then the Tigers will offer us either picks 6 and 23 to get Smith or picks 10 and 11 and to be honest I think I’d make the trade. But I would also be happy with just taking Smith - there is no doubt he can play.

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