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Quite like Jay Clark but I find it fascinating that he is part of a huge chorus of journo's seriously questioning our culture. In the same breath saying that Caleb Daniel would be a good fit at the Dee's. Sort of replacement for Gus.  So which is it? Bad culture that repels players or somewhat of a destination club? If we're so dysfunctional why would Daniel or any players want to come near us? These blokes just make it up as they go along and conveniently forget aforementioned statements and prognostications. 

  On 28/08/2024 at 10:50, Deelectable said:

Quite like Jay Clark but I find it fascinating that he is part of a huge chorus of journo's seriously questioning our culture. In the same breath saying that Caleb Daniel would be a good fit at the Dee's. Sort of replacement for Gus.  So which is it? Bad culture that repels players or somewhat of a destination club? If we're so dysfunctional why would Daniel or any players want to come near us? These blokes just make it up as they go along and conveniently forget aforementioned statements and prognostications. 

Jay Clark's fine most of the time but he bats about 1 in 100 in trade times, he's completely all over the shop.

That said, why would anyone join Melbourne? Because there's still only 18 clubs in the comp, and only 9 in Melbourne. St Kilda and Essendon appear to be going nowhere fast. Richmond are in full tank mode. The Dogs cap is surely full to the brim, hence why they're trying to offload Daniel in the first place. As bad as things are looking right now it shouldn't be a complete disaster.

 

Some good points you've made but if Clark and his cohorts are on the money about our 'culture'(God I've grown to hate that word!) why on earth would anyone come near us? Of course we all know that's not true but I found it more than ironical that on the same show that MFC's apparent problems were laid bare,less thelan 5 seconds later all panellists agreeing that Daniel would be a good fit for the Demons. Fair dinkum! The Three Stooges.


Bevo clearly lost faith in Daniel as a half back last year, without elite speed he gives up a lot defensively. Tried him on ball, which resulted in him running and winning the ball well but his lack of punch out of stoppages hurt them. Sanders, Harmes, Gallagher and eventually settled on Ed Richards for that role.

So this year he's been used a bit here and there and played in the 2's, now he's back in the side and playing wing and half forward.

We need half back depth but I don't think Daniel is a clear upgrade on Salem and Bowey.

We need overall depth and having a theoretically versatile player who can play forward, wing, half back would be nice.

It's not a total no but it's certainly not a resounding yes from me.

He's certainly a player we need to cast a keen eye over to see if his 2024 form is exactly up to the standard. We can't do a Hunter or Billings and just expect out fitness and coaching program to elevate players who just don't have it anymore. Glass half full recruiting should be for younger players at bad sides rather than doubting Bevo.

 

I don’t mind it. Salem’s body struggles with the demands of modern footy. Daniels is a backup for that role if Christian keeps breaking down.


  On 28/08/2024 at 11:49, Bring-Back-Powell said:

 Based on Bowey’s season I’d say an upgrade.

I wouldn't. There is a reason he isn't getting a regular game. His best years were really good, but he is one of the first the fans turn on when things aren't going great and for good reason. He doesn't have the ability to turn a losing game around. Think about how angry are getting on here with Fritsch defensive efforts in the forward line. Now imagine that in the backline.

I would much rather have Bowey over Daniel long term. Definitely not both of them.

He was a quality player at one point, these days not so much. Reminds me too much of Tim Lamb's work with Billings and Hunter.

Despite his 'so-so' season, I'd rather get more games into Bowey who I think would offer more in the long term.

If all else fails. We need to recruit a speedy, skillful draftee that can be blooded on HBF. It’s how Sheezel, Daicos were played too. No has beens.


  On 28/08/2024 at 10:23, adonski said:

We should be going for cheap options like Daniel who can fill a role rather than expensive options like Houston anyway...especially given the current situation of potentially struggling to field a Melbourne Demons 5 a-side basketball team in 2025

I'm not sure if the hilarious Ivan Reitman pairing of Muggsy Bogues and Farris-White can cover the departures of Jackson, Maynard, Trac and Watts on their own. 

  On 28/08/2024 at 11:08, Winners at last said:

Too small, too old and can't kick far enough. Probably too slow as well.

 

 

Gets the ball and disposes generally neatly.

Yes a fighter and gains meterage.
 

It’s a YES from me. . 

  On 28/08/2024 at 15:53, Skuit said:

I'm not sure if the hilarious Ivan Reitman pairing of Muggsy Bogues and Farris-White can cover the departures of Jackson, Maynard, Trac and Watts on their own. 

Mugssy always had go home factor

  On 28/08/2024 at 10:11, dazzledavey36 said:

Jay Clark just said that he thinks we will go after Caleb Daniel after missing out on Houston for ball use off half back.

Thoughts?

We are scrapping the bottom of the barrel. We need high class quality players and we go after another dinky kick in Daniels?? Jahheezus the place is paarked! No bloody way known!

Edited by picket fence


  On 28/08/2024 at 22:17, picket fence said:

We are scrapping the bottom of the barrel. We need high class quality players and we go after another dinky kick in Daniels?? Jahheezus the place is paarked!

Daniel was a good player. Had lost his pace. Short and slow.  Good kick but short and slow is not moving forward in today’s game. 
NO NO NO from me 

Not sure you can play Daniel, Salem and Bowey in the same backline. Unless Salo goes into the midfield again, and I'm not sure his body could cope with that full time

 

Good replacement for Tomo

 

Can take the 3rd tall

his form has dipped markedly from his best

i think he'd be a good bit of depth and an opportunity to bring a multi-positional player into the wider squad

however, i think jay is just seeing something at a distance and seeing if he squints it becomes any clearer to his vision


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