On 23/08/2024 at 13:31, poita said:

80 plus possessions between Nick and Josh, and we didn't lay a finger on either all night. Teams must love playing against such a clueless, half hearted group. 

As if the uncontested marks and free possessions we gave them, or the many missed tackles weren't bad enough, we kept kicking it straight to them in the centre of the ground.  They kept running up and scoring from our turnovers.  

Neither of the daicos boys are the best players in their family

We clearly wanted to give McVee some education tonight, so he played on Daicos, who pantsed him. Nibbler went to Daicos in the last quarter because we wanted to limit the damage. That didn't work as Daicos ran around got collected 12 in the last.

  On 23/08/2024 at 13:07, John Demonic said:

I know what im getting you for christmas DS

https://shop.collingwoodfc.com.au/collingwood-afl-legends-peter-daicos-fragrance/

 

 

Jesus wept, that’s a real thing. 

Yet another of those imbecilic threads that pops up after a loss. 🙄 

God almighty, wgaf if Daicos wins the Brownlow?! There’s no chance of them winning back to back flags so let them have themselves a jolly old time on Brownlow night which will be a wonderful reminder that the Brownlow medallist’s team, reigning Premiers no less, didn’t even make finals.

 

PS it was also Goody’s fault that lightening halted play. 

What's the point in tagging someone with another someone that we know we're not going to have in future? I thought we were trying to experiment.

McVee copped a lesson but it was the exact lesson he needed.

In patches of the 2nd and 3rd we actually hit them the other way.

Asking Nibbler to hard tag Daicos would’ve been just cruel and we don’t have anyone else on the list who could do it. 

  On 23/08/2024 at 15:29, DeeSpencer said:

McVee copped a lesson but it was the exact lesson he needed.

In patches of the 2nd and 3rd we actually hit them the other way.

Asking Nibbler to hard tag Daicos would’ve been just cruel and we don’t have anyone else on the list who could do it. 

Sparrow would blanket Daicos. Not sure we have anyone else who could. When Oliver and Trac are up and running, Daicos would find less opportunities. I’d nearly even run 3 dominant mids through next year and not tag Daicos again.

  On 23/08/2024 at 13:36, Hellfire Dub said:

As if the uncontested marks and free possessions we gave them, or the many missed tackles weren't bad enough, we kept kicking it straight to them in the centre of the ground.  They kept running up and scoring from our turnovers.  

 

Edited August 23, 2024Aug 23 by David-Demon

  On 23/08/2024 at 13:36, Hellfire Dub said:

As if the uncontested marks and free possessions we gave them, or the many missed tackles weren't bad enough, we kept kicking it straight to them in the centre of the ground.  They kept running up and scoring from our turnovers.  

That is totally unfair, especially if you are a heart and soul Demon. In case you never knew we had six top-line players out last night and that above all else should be where we start when we analyze the end result. They tried. We were not good enough, end of story. 

  On 23/08/2024 at 14:42, WalkingCivilWar said:

PS it was also Goody’s fault that lightening halted play. 

  RUOK @WalkingCivilWar?  

  On 23/08/2024 at 14:42, WalkingCivilWar said:

 

PS it was also Goody’s fault that lightening halted play. 

i wondered about that at the time

... but then i decided it must have been jack watts' fault

  On 23/08/2024 at 17:20, David-Demon said:

That is totally unfair, especially if you are a heart and soul Demon. In case you never knew we had six top-line players out last night and that above all else should be where we start when we analyze the end result. They tried. We were not good enough, end of story. 

i don't see how giving your direct opponent 20m of freeboard all the time is somehow actually "trying"

at least go down, if you must, in a contest

Let's hope crippa or the bont have a ripper final game 

  On 23/08/2024 at 23:53, daisycutter said:

i don't see how giving your direct opponent 20m of freeboard all the time is somehow actually "trying"

at least go down, if you must, in a contest

Exactly and this is what I am critical of Goodwins blatant refusal to place a hard tag on a proven matchwinner instead deciding to back our midfielders. Why is it that all teams elect to go with a hard tag On Clarry , blocking, harrasing, niggling which has worked somewhat in some games this year, but for anyone to be accountable for Daicos??? Nar too hard. This is down to Goodwins coaching and one of the major reasons we not only lost the game, but probably handed this free running non accountable player a Brownlow!!

  On 23/08/2024 at 13:07, John Demonic said:

I know what im getting you for christmas DS

https://shop.collingwoodfc.com.au/collingwood-afl-legends-peter-daicos-fragrance/

 

 

I dont want to smell like peter daicos

  On 23/08/2024 at 14:12, Adam The God said:

We clearly wanted to give McVee some education tonight, so he played on Daicos, who pantsed him. Nibbler went to Daicos in the last quarter because we wanted to limit the damage. That didn't work as Daicos ran around got collected 12 in the last.

Might have been an idea to start Nib on Faicos and not Salem who is a distributor not a nullifier.

  On 23/08/2024 at 14:51, layzie said:

What's the point in tagging someone with another someone that we know we're not going to have in future? I thought we were trying to experiment.

I thought we were trying to win the game? Re experimentation. Why put Jefferson in as emergency then when a tall in Lever goes out we replace with Woey? Perfect opportunity to experiment right there and again the brains trust blew it to the shizzen!

Edited August 24, 2024Aug 24 by picket fence

We all have pies friends that annoy us ... the last thing we want is a pies brownlow ... particularly one we assisted ... ANB should have been on him from the start and McVee on Hill ... very disappointing coaching 

  On 24/08/2024 at 01:40, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Might have been an idea to start Nib on Faicos and not Salem who is a distributor not a nullifier.

I don't.

Nibbler won't be playing with us next year, so we had an eye to educating McVee on Daicos, and I'm sure we hoped he'd be able to nullify him, but around stoppage Daicos is so difficult to play on. And then for whatever reason McVee didn't hand off to a player higher up the ground or didn't go with Daicos.

Daicos' movement was smart, his patterns are incredible, and it may have just been an inexperience thing on McVee and the rest of our team that Daicos and Collingwood exploited.

I actually don't think it was a coaching thing. Because when Nibbler went to him in the last, he still had 12 touches, the same as he had in the first quarter.

But IMO, it showed how very possible it is to heat Collingwood. If your tag works on Nick Daicos (and I know Josh got up there last night too), you.completely stifle their ball movement and their ability to score from defensive 50 and stoppage, because he does it all.

  On 24/08/2024 at 01:50, Adam The God said:

I don't.

Nibbler won't be playing with us next year, so we had an eye to educating McVee on Daicos, and I'm sure we hoped he'd be able to nullify him, but around stoppage Daicos is so difficult to play on. And then for whatever reason McVee didn't hand off to a player higher up the ground or didn't go with Daicos.

Daicos' movement was smart, his patterns are incredible, and it may have just been an inexperience thing on McVee and the rest of our team that Daicos and Collingwood exploited.

I actually don't think it was a coaching thing. Because when Nibbler went to him in the last, he still had 12 touches, the same as he had in the first quarter.

But IMO, it showed how very possible it is to heat Collingwood. If your tag works on Nick Daicos (and I know Josh got up there last night too), you.completely stifle their ball movement and their ability to score from defensive 50 and stoppage, because he does it all.

I've been calling for him in the midfield for eons, but we've had a look and he's not fit enough right now and he def gets a bit lost with the handover stuff.  I'm coming around to the idea he should be more a wanganeen milera role off high half back.  Either way, its ok we got to see it in an essentially dead rubber. 'learnings'

Daicos was playing loose man in F50.

  On 23/08/2024 at 11:03, Demonstone said:

Nick Daicos would be a worthy winner.  He's a champion.

Come at me.

Yes he’s an absolute gun and I love watching him play, very special talent. Be nice to have him but alas we don’t 

  On 24/08/2024 at 02:00, Pipefitter said:

Daicos was playing loose man in F50.

Yes he was, the only bloke that turned Daicos inside out was T Mac when he beat him on a one on one. Should’ve given the tag to T Mac 😂.

  On 24/08/2024 at 01:58, Jjrogan said:

I've been calling for him in the midfield for eons, but we've had a look and he's not fit enough right now and he def gets a bit lost with the handover stuff.  I'm coming around to the idea he should be more a wanganeen milera role off high half back.  Either way, its ok we got to see it in an essentially dead rubber. 'learnings'

He massively rushes his disposals, and dump kicks, which are definitely an experience thing. So as you say, learnings, but I wouldn't be counting on him playing a big midfield role.

I like the high half back idea.