Christian Petracca

[Gawndy the Great 9,008]

1 hour ago, Nascent said:

I don't think it happens but I reckon they could pull it off if they wanted to. They can't draft 8 kids and expect to be competitive. The question would be is Petracca happy going to a bottom 4 team, I suspect not.

Richmond has currently picks 1, 21, 30, 39, 41, 48, 57, 64, 73.

They could easily lose all of Baker, Bolton, Rioli and Graham.

Speculation/suggestions from cal on Gettable proposed these scenarios... granted this is an  educated guess.

Rioli to Gold Coast for pick 13 (some say could even be 5).

Baker and Bolton to freo for 9, 10 and 17.

Graham to net a second round pick 22.

That could potentially leave them picks 1, 9, 10, 13, 17, 21, 22 and a stack of later picks.

They could use some of those later picks to target gold coast or Brisbane's later first rounder (14 or 20).

They could offer say pick 1 and 9 for Petracca and still have 4-5 first round picks left over. And that's not even using their future picks.

1 and 9 would be so tempting. Take pick 1, 7 to draft. Pick 9 for Callaghan from GWS. 

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,099]

Regardless of what happens going forward surely it’s a given that Trac asked about a trade. TM was emphatic that he had and anyone concerned about their own brand as much as he seems to be would have shot that down in a heartbeat if it wasn’t true. 
 

As mentioned by another poster on here he likely asked his manager the question and was told to forget it. Which hasn’t stopped him or someone close to him making it public. Everything since then has looked like a well orchestrated exercise in damage control by he and the club. 

Edited August 20 by Rab D Nesbitt

[The Jackson FIX 2,673]

4 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

1 and 9 would be so tempting. Take pick 1, 7 to draft. Pick 9 for Callaghan from GWS. 

Why would Richmond want Trac/Trac want Richmond at this stage of their re-build?? Makes close to zero sense. I think the media, the public and apparently Demonland just enjoy talking about the hypothetical.

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9 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Agree but the problem is until Trac comes out and refutes the rumour he wants out those articles will keep coming.

Even if he stays this trade period, the articles will continue all through next year especially if the AFL brings in trading draft picks 3 years out. Then you'll have articles like the Pies trading 3 first rounders for him.

Until Trac makes a public statements one way or the other the speculation will continue.

There is no bad publicity.

this keeps tracca’s name around. And the demons name up front.

if we are being spoken about the club sponsors are happy.  
 

Its like a win win situation. If it is orchestrated then tracca will not make a public decision until after the finals.  We might have missed the finals action bit this keeps the “brand” front and centre.

 

and it gives the media something to ponder and pontificate about.

everyones happy except demonland !

[No. 31 1,052]

Jake Lever was just on SEN and poured plenty of cold water on assorted Tracc rumours ...

[layzie 32,717]

8 hours ago, Mel Bourne said:

I’m assuming you’re a grown adult. Why then would you need it explained that throughout a person’s career they will have moments of doubt and instability? That blind and unwavering commitment to any professional organisation is unrealistic? That physical trauma can have severe impact on one’s mental outlook? 

Putting everything else aside, I don't think that this part is being mentioned enough by anyone at the moment. Especially the last sentence.

 

Edited August 20 by layzie

[Gawndy the Great 9,008]

1 hour ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Why would Richmond want Trac/Trac want Richmond at this stage of their re-build?? Makes close to zero sense. I think the media, the public and apparently Demonland just enjoy talking about the hypothetical.

I actually do enjoy talking hypothetically. No way I’m taking Trac if I’m Richmond but if I’m some bizarro world They offer 1 and 9, then I’d be very tempted. 

[Demonland 70,216]

31 minutes ago, No. 31 said:

Jake Lever was just on SEN and poured plenty of cold water on assorted Tracc rumours ...

From about 2:16

The really important clarification re: Trac not being at the club and the reports about players not being happy is explained from 5:00

Totally understandable how this has been twisted.

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22 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Why?

He just generally looks that way and sounds that way too.

[Billy 2,460]

7 minutes ago, Demonland said:

From about 2:16

The really important clarification re: Trac not being at the club and the reports about players not being happy is explained from 5:00

Totally understandable how this has been twisted.

Jake was great, next Captain?

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,283]

Great interview from Jake. Think we should've trotted him out through this whole experience, would've killed the story straight away.

[titan_uranus 24,557]

2 hours ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

Regardless of what happens going forward surely it’s a given that Trac asked about a trade. TM was emphatic that he had and anyone concerned about their own brand as much as he seems to be would have shot that down in a heartbeat if it wasn’t true. 
 

As mentioned by another poster on here he likely asked his manager the question and was told to forget it. Which hasn’t stopped him or someone close to him making it public. Everything since then has looked like a well orchestrated exercise in damage control by he and the club. 

What? That’s the one thing Morris has been adamant hasn’t happened. 

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Lever could easily be captain or we could get Viney and Sparrow as co captains. Captains Jack Sparrow……I’ll see myself out. 

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21 hours ago, Demonland said:

Melbourne Demons, Christian Petracca injuries, communication with Max Gawn, Noosa holiday, Caroline Wilson, Footy Classified

Caroline Wilson says she is "staggered" at Melbourne's communication breakdown with Christian Petracca.

It follows reports that Petracca addressed the playing group on Monday, clarifying his extended break in Noosa, his terrifying season-ending injuries suffered in round 13, as well as growing trade speculation.

There have been suggestions that Petracca had become disgruntled and disillusioned with the club.

And despite Dees skipper Max Gawn moving to shut down speculation that tension still exists between Petracca and his teammates, Wilson still has her concerns.

"I find the communication breakdown at the Melbourne football club extraordinary," Wilson said on Nine's Footy Classified on Monday night.

"What is baffling to me is that Christian Petracca addressed his teammates this morning, for the first time as a group, and talked about the trauma he suffered.

"I'm staggered that players didn't know that Christian Petracca had gone up to Noosa for a month, because he was suffering from post traumatic stress disorder, if that's what it was, or some form of stress and trauma after what had happened to him.

"If he's got all these cultural issues with the club, when he addressed the players ... I wish he'd said that. I'm told that he specifically only spoke about what he went through (with his injuries)."

Wilson also questioned why Gawn has been withholding information surrounding Petracca's health from his teammates.

"How does Max Gawn ... keep his teammates in the loop about how Christian is going? About why he's gone to Noosa?" she said.

"Petracca is their greatest player, their Norm Smith Medallist. Do you find it a bit odd? It is unusual for a footy club to not be communicating to that degree?

"This is a playing group that has won a flag together. How does the playing group not know about this situation?"

And it's not just on Gawn to be keeping the group informed, according to Matthew Lloyd.

"It's on everyone. It's on the head of football, Alan Richardson, it's on Gary Pert, the CEO," Lloyd said.

That show really is a wasteland of moronic opinions.

[Lucifers Hero 38,910]

19 minutes ago, Demonland said:

From about 2:16

The really important clarification re: Trac not being at the club and the reports about players not being happy is explained from 5:00

Totally understandable how this has been twisted.

Just shows how much the players/club rely on Trac's energy off field as well as on field.

I hope those on DL who were quick to jump into 'lynch mob' mode take a moment to reflect on how they have maligned a champion of our beloved club.  All based on very little and because they weren't prepared to give him or the club any benefit of the doubt and wait a few days.

The lack of respect to Trac as a human being (and a very good one at that) and lack of compassion for a severely injured warrior, who may have understandably had moments of doubt, has astounded and saddened me.

I truly hope we don't see that again on DL.

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8 hours ago, Nascent said:

I don't think it happens but I reckon they could pull it off if they wanted to. They can't draft 8 kids and expect to be competitive. The question would be is Petracca happy going to a bottom 4 team, I suspect not.

Richmond are heading towards the same pain that North and West Coast have been through recently. I'd expect least 2 more years of <5 wins, then another few years remaining out of finals.

Say 2025-28 are seasons of development, then they might be ready for a go at finals in 2029. Trac would be 33 heading into that season.

Good luck selling that to Trac. There is zero chance he would go to Richmond and it's pointless for Richmond to trade for him. They could use their picks to have several shots at draft a player like Petracca, plus building a team of strong role players with all the other picks.

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22 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Just shows how much the players/club rely on Trac's energy off field as well as on field.

I hope those on DL who were quick to jump into 'lynch mob' mode take a moment to reflect on how they have maligned a champion of our beloved club.  All based on very little and because they weren't prepared to give him or the club any benefit of the doubt and wait a few days.

The lack of respect to Trac as a human being (and a very good one at that) and lack of compassion for a severely injured warrior, who may have understandably had moments of doubt, has astounded and saddened me.

I truly hope we don't see that again on DL.

I’m pretty sure everyone here loves having Petracca on board but if you want to air your doubts in public be prepared for some backlash. Football is an emotional business and he still hasn’t come out and said he intends to stay. I think it’s understandable for people on a discussion forum to vent their frustrations. 
Compared to what I hear at the football I’d say we’re mostly a well behaved lot. 

Edited August 20 by Roost it far

[Lucifers Hero 38,910]

Just now, Roost it far said:

I’m pretty sure everyone here loves having Petracca on board but if you want to air your doubts in public be prepared for some backlash. Football is an emotional business and he still hasn’t come out and said he intends to stay so personally I think it’s fine for people on a discussion forum to vent their frustrations. 
Compared to what I hear at the football I’d say we’re mostly a well behaved lot. 

Until I hear from the Club/ Christian that he isn't staying I'm prepared to give both the benefit of the doubt. 

I haven't seen much love toward him in this thread so it would be good if folks expressed that from time to time.

Totally agree that fans vent their frustrations. The venting can be done with respect and compassion rather than vitriol and imputing all sorts of motives, jumping at shadows without any facts etc.

This isn't bigfooy!

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5 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

I’m pretty sure everyone here loves having Petracca on board but if you want to air your doubts in public be prepared for some backlash. Football is an emotional business and he still hasn’t come out and said he intends to stay. I think it’s understandable for people on a discussion forum to vent their frustrations. 
Compared to what I hear at the football I’d say we’re mostly a well behaved lot. 

Agreed.

However, what has increasingly  irked me on Demonland is how one poster's assertion or claim magically transmogrifies into "fact" and thus the pile on commences.

[Lucifers Hero 38,910]

@Demonland 

Thanks for changing the title.

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35 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Lever could easily be captain or we could get Viney and Sparrow as co captains. Captains Jack Sparrow……I’ll see myself out. 

Building quite a band out here, Rif. Welcome.

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,099]

49 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

What? That’s the one thing Morris has been adamant hasn’t happened. 

Hi Titan. I thought he did on the podcast episode he did with Ben Gibson?

[Adam The God 29,291]

1 hour ago, No. 31 said:

Jake Lever was just on SEN and poured plenty of cold water on assorted Tracc rumours ...

You mean like a good leader would? Make him captain FFS.

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On 20/08/2024 at 09:51, Roost it far said:

Jeez we need a big off season. Take the team to an overseas training facility and surround them with the very best in the business for 2 weeks. Harden and bond them in the fire of adversity. I'll read about it on a comfy chair on my verandah.

You forgot to add to the end ".... while posting on social media that the game has gone soft and that players have it easy these days."

[leave it to deever 17,445]

On 19/08/2024 at 11:50, WiseDeeMan said:

 

The longer this Petracca saga drags out, the more I’m leaning towards he’s going. He should have addressed it by now, and the fact he hasn’t, suggests he wants out in my view. 

 

Melbourne rightfully are playing the “he’s contracted and not going anywhere” card. 

 

But for f*+k sake MFC, if he does want to go, make a stance, and stop playing ‘nice guy’. 

 

You send him to the club that offers the best return for the our club ANYWHERE in Australia…not, oh “he wants to go to Collingwood” because it’s nice and convenient for him! With all due respect f^*k him!

 

This also sends a firm message to anyone else wanting to break contract - you can request a trade, but where you end up, is up to us. 

 

My sneaky suspicion is the managers have too much power in the AFL and clubs are scared to upset them. 

 

I’m sick of contracted players calling the shots in AFL “Im home sick”, but I will only play for this specific team. 

 

In US sports, if you are contracted, the clubs will trade you where suits the CLUB, not the individual. When you become a free agent, then you can call the shots. That’s what FREE AGENCY is. 

 

Also, they rarely ever send them to a team that’s a potential fellow contender (eg. exactly the opposite of what we did with Grundy last year), you send them to the [censored] end of the competition!

 

As a top 5 player in the comp (categorically), he’s worth at least 3 top 10 picks (as per Dangerfield, Tim Kelly, Jeremy Cameron etc) and the only clubs that could come up with that, are the bottom of the ladder teams most likely. See how he likes it there. 

It's a fine line 

The club is being nice to try and salvage the situation imho.

But if the horse has bolted than by all means your right it's time to play hardball.

Nobody is bigger than the club. And the Mfc has a right and a duty to send players who want to break contracts wherever they want.

You can't have a contract and reap all the advantages of it and break it as you see fit. It's totally the clubs disgresssion where you end up.

This is not to say Tracca is being demanding or anything negative but simply that the club must look after itself first.

I hope he stays and I think he will.

Edited August 21 by leave it to deever