11 hours ago, picket fence said:

Um his dad is connected to Norf..... GO FIGURE!

I can’t wait to see Trac, Clarry, and Viney on the park next year so DL can finally see how truly full of [censored] you are 

10 hours ago, Demonland said:

On the plus side. If Tracc, Clarry and Viney all leave we'll have 7 or 8 first round picks.

We'll probably trade all of them plus our future first for Houston.

Most febrile Monday evening on DL for quite some time. Very exciting.

8 hours ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

In your opinion what are the changes that need to be made?

10 hours ago, picket fence said:

So no wins in finals in the last 2 years and failure to make the 8 and you want to Galvanise??? No mate current admin and coach need to go! 

Agreed, there is no point staying as a certified 'also ran...' team. Time for a determined re-jig, in my opinion, casting mediocrity to the four winds, instilling a new hunger for success and vastly improved methodologies. With the correct coaching team and virile recruiting, all is possible ... and then, just then, we may retain the great Tracca and the handful of struggling talents in the batting line-up. 

8 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I think he’s attempting to suggest that no officials from the club visited him. 

I see… I think that’s what isolation means

10 hours ago, The Stigga said:

I reckon the players have absolutely hated playing to the recent GWS and Port crowds

So who’s fault is that?   Perform and play an attractive brand of footy and the fans turn up.  This is on the club and the players 

1 minute ago, Demons11 said:

So who’s fault is that?   Perform and play an attractive brand of footy and the fans turn up.  This is on the club and the players 

To be fair, those games were preceded by our most insipid and uninspired performances against Freo and Bulldogs.

It was always going to be hard to appeal for a huge crowd, specially when finals were all but gone.

7 hours ago, binman said:

Not only accept it as fact, but it also magically becomes incontrovertible proof of all that is supposedley wrong with the club.

It feels a bit like the one day stock market crash the other day that had maga so excited - finally proof of the inevitable biden/harris economic collapse they had long predicted!

Nek minnit, stocks stabilise and it's crickets.

I don't doubt tracc and his family are, or were, frustrated with how the club handled his injury.

To be honest I think it was yet another example of our poor comms and crisis management, not dissimilar to the mismanagement on the comms front (my view) of clarrys hamstring and associated noise last year

I'm hoping the new comms person sorts our issues in this space because for mine it is a recurring problem. 

But rather than allowing a tool like Morris pull my strings, I'll lean into known facts.

Which include the fact that petty, kolt, Windsor, koz, mcvee, turner, jvr, Jefferson  and langers have all signed new contracts recently.

That fact suggests it's a pretty good environment.

Perfect? Of course not. Footy clubs never are. 

And another fact is there was similar noise and hand wringing (both in the media and ondemonland), in fact much louder, about clarry leaving after our crappy 2020 season.

Ditto viney to the cats and koz to the crows.

Every season there is such noise - particularly during down years.

Where there's smoke there's rarely fire. 

I gave up worrying about losing players after Gerard Healy left. Of course I'd be gutted if we lost tracc, but I'm not going to waste a scintilla of energy worrying about it.

I was worried and still am when we traded RDB and sacked Norm 2of the greatest ever at MFC ,then the slide to hell started

8 hours ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

In your opinion what are the changes that need to be made?

 

22 minutes ago, Demonsterative said:

I've posted my thoughts in multiple threads! The Goodwin one and the Dan Houston one I believe. 

You're welcome. 

I must be on your mind @Demonsterative! Hope I'm not giving you nightmares! 

6 minutes ago, middleagedemon said:

 

I've posted my thoughts in multiple threads! The Goodwin one and the Dan Houston one I believe. 

You're welcome. 

I must be on your mind @Demonsterative! Hope I'm not giving you nightmares! 

Do you come on here just to rattle other posters cages.You certainly appear to be a vindictive little sod

Time for calm.  The club will speak with Trac.  Big Maxy will speak with Trac.  All will move on.  5 year contract deal.  Trac will be in red and blue next year.  

Having had some time to think about this overnight, it seems strange to me that this story surfaces just a few days after Petracca was seen back at training, albeit with him doing nothing more than standing around. If he was as unhappy as Tom Morris has suggested, why was he there at all?

How’s it go down?

tom maggot “How are you feeling about the demons season?”

CP5: “It wasn’t that great”

TM “so you’re not happy with it”

CP5 ‘no”

TM “how is it with goody”

CP5 “he’s a great bloke”

TM “OK, So do miss the chance to win a flag this year”

CP5 “of course, its why we are here”

TM “what do you reckon of those teams on it?”

CP5 “wish it was us”

turns into I this [censored] story……..

5 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

How’s it go down?

tom maggot “How are you feeling about the demons season?”

CP5: “It wasn’t that great”

TM “so you’re not happy with it”

CP5 ‘no”

TM “how is it with goody”

CP5 “he’s a great bloke”

TM “OK, So do miss the chance to win a flag this year”

CP5 “of course, its why we are here”

TM “what do you reckon of those teams on it?”

CP5 “wish it was us”

turns into I this [censored] story……..

Excellent, although you forgot to add:

TM: "Are you disappointed club officials didn't visit you while you were in hospital?"

CP5: "Yes, it was a lonely time"

Can anyone enlighten me please.

i do not have access to sports shows or AFL 360 or this type.

this topic is going bananas in this thread, but is it getting any airtime on any other platforms.  Or is it a figment of imagination.

ta

7 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

One things that is irrefutable is our game style this year is shocking. So much so the unexplainable drop offs in games, lack of intensity, walk out front of stoppage style defensive [censored] actually is the playing group crying out, not believing in the game plan and method. This does make sense. 

By extension , it also does start to explain Oliver’s frustration , potentially Tracs frustration and god knows how many other players. Now none of this is proven but the talk of Viney, Trac , Oliver all in a matter of weeks is not all all made up - maybe it’s blown out of proportion- but I certainly think something stinks.

 

 

I’m confident this is not correct. 

One thing explicitly said in the report is that he’s not unhappy with Goody. 

The Viney talk is simply talk that North have thought about trying to get him, not that Jack wants to leave. 

The Oliver talk has never included “he wants out”.

And over the last few months we’ve had a stack of players re-sign. 

Bringing all of that together, I don’t think the players are ”crying out” against or “not believing” in Goody or the game plan. I suspect they do believe in it, but are struggling to execute it. 

7 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

One things that is irrefutable is our game style this year is shocking. So much so the unexplainable drop offs in games, lack of intensity, walk out front of stoppage style defensive [censored] actually is the playing group crying out, not believing in the game plan and method. This does make sense. 

By extension , it also does start to explain Oliver’s frustration , potentially Tracs frustration and god knows how many other players. Now none of this is proven but the talk of Viney, Trac , Oliver all in a matter of weeks is not all all made up - maybe it’s blown out of proportion- but I certainly think something stinks.

 

 

Olivers frustration? 
He has brought this failed season on himself has he not ? 
This off season will be defining for Clayton - does he want to be an elite footballer and justify the big $$$ or continue to be a major and frankly unhelpful distraction 

 

6 minutes ago, 640MD said:

Can anyone enlighten me please.

i do not have access to sports shows or AFL 360 or this type.

this topic is going bananas in this thread, but is it getting any airtime on any other platforms.  Or is it a figment of imagination.

ta

Apart from the initial report, Caro and Kane did a big “I told you so” about our culture on 360.  Saw the clip dont watch the show….

8 hours ago, Storm Boy said:

I will help you out Flowergirl. Picket Fence knows Bernie Dunn and Bernie Sheedy. Bernie Sheehy coached Essendon Reserves under Kevin Sheedy and coached Fitzroy Reserves. Both Bernie Dunn and Bernie Sheehy have strong connections with the Melbourne Football Club.

I'm a bit more old fashioned and go to the people are involved inside the club. I went to the AFLW match between Carlton and Melbourne last Friday afternoon and had a quick discussion with Todd Patterson but he didn't give me much information when I asked him to get straight to the point. 

However, I did speak with Tim Lamb when we played against the Giants and had a good discussion with him during half time. But I don't come on here and tell everyone what he told me. There are so many variables will change between now until draft night. 

Gee Bernie Dunn and Bernie Sheehy??? I havent seen or spoken to them for years! My source has no club connection that Im aware of but moves in vast well heeled footy circles. This person has provided reliable info, not just on Dees but other clubs as well in the past. At any rate the info I had, has now been aired on this site by another poster and as such I have nothing else to add that hasn't already been said, end of story!

Edited August 12, 2024Aug 12 by picket fence

I'm really tired of some people thinking the last 4 years have been a failure. We won a flag and finished top 4 two years in a row. Last year we should've gone deeper but the Brayshaw incident and poor kicking at goal cost us. Neither of those issues are the fault or Goody or anyone else other than the players.

52 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

So who’s fault is that?   Perform and play an attractive brand of footy and the fans turn up.  This is on the club and the players 

Or be a passionate supporter through thick & thin instead of picking & choosing when to go

I don't really want to fuel this thread but if Trac is concerned about the direction of the club - one of the vague accusations that's been levelled - maybe he is dispirited by the lousy crowd attendances since he started paying attention again...

It can't be the contract extensions and new signings of valued and young players.

Edited August 12, 2024Aug 12 by pitmaster

19 pages so far.  Just a blip in time.  
Maynard knockout of Brayshaw.  We got to 112 pages in 2 days. 

 

I must say I don't quite get the attractive brand of footy complaints. We maximised the output from the strengths our playing list had and won a flag and almost another. I'll take winning ugly everyday. This year we're trying to evolve but with mixed results. I was leaning toward pessimism at the beginning of this year no doubt about that but I actually think the next 2 years could prove fruitful. Again it all comes down to this preseason which is what makes it so intriguing for me. I remain a little concerned about the noise and do wonder at times if we have the absolute best people in the right places. That's just my vibe though, based on absolutely no hard facts. One thing I do know is if you're getting your "facts" from the pissants on Footy Classified you may as well burn your membership now.