Oliver Trade Rumours

[daisycutter 29,523]

i'd double down on cats paying his whole salary. this is not a salary dump situation.

if that means he stays and plays at casey until he fully reforms and grows up, then so be it

hope club shows some gonads and bargains hard

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,587]

1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

You have absolutely no idea what he's been through, if you truly think he will come out of this unscathed.

Sometimes we forget that players are people first.

I understand that as fans we are all emotional and we just want our club to succeed at any cost, but that's not how clubs operate, nor how they should operate. The last time a club said lets win at any cost, they injected players with god knows what and ruined their club for 2 decades and counting.

This is a very delicate situation. For all that Clarry has done wrong, he is hardly alone. He is not the first or last player to have a fall. If any supporter thinks that Clarry leaving will magically fix the issues that have been festering for a while, then they are sadly mistaken. 

No but out of a cohort of four it seems only one will be left. 

[Demonland 70,902]

 

[Jaded No More 68,767]

Just now, Norm Smith's Curse said:

No but out of a cohort of four it seems only one will be left. 

That's a very naive and uninformed take.

 

[ElDiablo14 4,987]

1 minute ago, daisycutter said:

i'd double down on cats paying his whole salary. this is not a salary dump situation.

if that means he stays and plays at casey until he fully reforms and grows up, then so be it

hope club shows some gonads and bargains hard

Geelong can ask the Vic Gov to cover the cost of Clayton's salary.

[Young Angus 749]

4 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Thanks Tom, good insight, all is forgiven. 

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,587]

4 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

That's a very naive and uninformed take.

 

It's better than a made up one. 

[Sir Why You Little 36,797]

10 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Or recoup his trade value so we don't get screwed in a possible trade next year.

But we wouldn’t get anywhere near recouping his trade value right now…

He needs to get himself fit and fiiring

[beelzebub 23,261]

Our dilemma....

[Kiss of Death 745]

12 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

“Water is wet” - also Tom Morris 

[Ugottobekidding 1,117]

So far, out Oliver and in Tom Campbell. Wow, that is really improving our list.

[Brownie 5,929]

44 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Btw, the sooner Max and/or Gus become CEO/President of the club the better.

I think Max pretty much is our president already.

He's the bloke who keeps getting shoved in front of the cameras and mics to try and speak with eloquence and integrity.

I don't know how he does it.

I wouldn't blink an eye if he turns to a pile of dust in 2025 from the load he has carried for us over the last year or so.

[Age 485]

Ok, I've got some more mail on all of this. 

Melbourne is now looking to package up Oliver and Petracca to Geelong for a future 4th rounder and we pay $2m of their contract each year till they die. Apparently Trac got on board once he was shown that he could be the new face of a Farm to Plate cooking show with all produce being produced on his new farm that he has apparently been given by some guy on Instagram with the handle of #cottononcosta

Oliver is happy to go now too as he's been shown that any off field indiscretions are only in the news for a maximum of 15 minutes. Plus, with Geelong being close to the water, he will be able to directly fish his taped up packages from Mexico directly from his seafront property. 

[bluey 1,050]

I’m now reluctant to give Clarry a pair of size 12’s up the behind.

We lost Travy, Col, Jacky boy, Jessy, my gut feeling is now, see out the contract, 

like a bad marriage, it may be sorted over time.

[layzie 33,581]

38 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Yay, Josh Jenkins is now a hero. 

[bush demon 2,027]

Are you insinuating something?

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[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

1 hour ago, Superunknown said:

If SWYLs intel Is right, the board must remove Pert today. 
 

I still favour a top to bottom review of the entire club by an independent third party at arms length from the board and CEO. Everything in the table.

Is there any chance Simon and others inside the FD (some players included) wanted to see if they can move Clarry on but weren't sure if that was possible / best for the club in terms of the suiters / offers.

They wanted to have their cake and eat it too but didn't want to put Clarry or themselves in the horrid position if they had to walk him back in.

So they went with the Perty option.  Perty taking the heat but managing to put the feelers out 🤔

I would see that as cowardly,  gutless and very poor form but just putting it out there as one of many theories.

Edited October 3 by Demon Dynasty

[Dee-tonator 215]

Suggested message to other clubs: Our minimum requirement is that (1) you take over Oliver's full contract and (2) we require an elite player in return plus a high draft pick.

Suggested message to Oliver: you are going nowhere unless Melbourne get a fair deal in exchange, including a high-class midfielder. This club has bent over backwards to assist you and it is you who owe us big time. If there are further issues with fitness or conduct, prepare for a year in the stiffs at Casey.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

Just now, Dee-tonator said:

This club has bent over backwards to assist you and it is you who owe us big time. If there are further issues with fitness or conduct, prepare for a year in the stiffs at Casey.

Just the thought of that propsect would be enough to straighten even the most bent player up surely!

[Demonland 70,902]

 

[bing181 9,177]

7 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Clearly he's not willing to grow up.

People really need to remember that Clarry has ADHD. And always will have, his brain is hard-wired that way.

So … difficult to suppress impulses, may not stop to consider a situation, or consequences before pursuing a course of action, etc etc. It may come across as immaturity, but it goes a lot deeper than that. 

I for one want him gone, unfortunately, but I really feel for him. 

Edited October 3 by bing181

[dazzledavey36 53,675]

 

[bing181 9,177]

2 hours ago, Mel Bourne said:

One theory: Goodwin has to say he still wants Clarry in case a deal doesnt get done. 

Not a theory. 

[waynewussell 5,080]

"wounded and unsupported" or delusional? I think bing181 makes a very good point about the effect of Clayton's ADHD condition on all of this.

[Abyssal 465]

23 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

But we wouldn’t get anywhere near recouping his trade value right now…

He needs to get himself fit and fiiring

My concern with this is, if he chooses not to get fit and firing, has more off field troubles and/or holds the club in contempt resulting in him making no effort ( even begin happy to front up weekly at Casey) would MFC still be required to PAY HIS FULL SALARY?

If so, player contacts are clearly too heavily stacked in the players favour to the point of being farcical.