POSTGAME: Rd 17 vs West Coast

[DubDee 25,155]

27 minutes ago, IRW said:

You don't think it's relevant? Let's wait until next week.

good idea. come back after our next loss and enjoy yourself

[Nascent 8,907]

Random stats.

JvR kicked his 50th goal today and currently sitting on 51 goals from 34 games.

Pickett kicked his 150th today.

Fritsch has now kicked 243 goals equalling David Schwarz career tally and achieving it in 30 less games.

[beelzebub 23,261]

16 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

@beelzebub, Mr Realist himself, "thanked" it.

In other words, he also thinks it's "delusional" to say we're back in the hunt.

The same guy who pre-game said "win, and win well, and there's some momentum and belief".

And in response to a 9-goal win which gave us 5% and puts us a win and 5% behind 5th.

It's not delusional. It's correct. 

Do you really think we're finishing in the 8 ?

I don't.  I think we'll play more good footy...but so will opposition.

Thats reality.

To be in the hunt....means finals.

I'll be very surprised. More than happy to keep developing the lads.

Nice to know where i live rent free  ;)

[titan_uranus 24,957]

Just now, beelzebub said:

Do you really think we're finishing in the 8 ?

I don't.  I think we'll play more good footy...but so will opposition.

Thats reality.

To be in the hunt....means finals.

I'll be very surprised. More than happy to keep developing the lads.

Nice to know where i live rent free  ;)

No, that isn't.

That's pessimism. 

If you don't think we're in the hunt to make finals where we sit right now, that's your pessimism talking. You're entitled to your view, but FFS please stop calling it "realism". It's just your view.

PS what were you expecting when you said pre-game "win, and win well, and we'll build momentum and belief". 54 points isn't winning well?

[daisycutter 29,523]

43 minutes ago, praha said:

Reid and Kelly are explosive jets. They were the only thing preventing a 100+ point belting. We beat them well at stoppages but we couldn't match their pace in the middle.

it's more than just pace. it's also not petracca out because it's been all season.

it's structure ... there is none ... should be able to at least break even with good structure/tactics

[Jaded No More 68,764]

31 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

Can I just say how much I live the 1:10 games. It was perfect sitting there today and I'm home by 5.

I know they aren't ideal for marketing & prime time but it's a good slot.

Also the kids stuff out the front looked great. The kids were having a ball. Even when I went out at half time they were still doing the activities 

It’s basically the only timeslot you can take younger kids to IMO. Left the house at 11:30 and home by 5:00. It’s ideal.

I love a night game but it’s definitely a solo outing for me (with other family and friends but not the kids) 

[Dingo 1,029]

25 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Random stats.

JvR kicked his 50th goal today and currently sitting on 51 goals from 34 games.

Pickett kicked his 150th today.

Fritsch has now kicked 243 goals equalling David Schwarz career tally and achieving it in 30 less games.

So we got a forward line ?

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Do you really think we're finishing in the 8 ?

I don't.  I think we'll play more good footy...but so will opposition.

Thats reality.

To be in the hunt....means finals.

I'll be very surprised. More than happy to keep developing the lads.

Nice to know where i live rent free  ;)

Top 8.  Who knows?

Our young brigade are very good but they are young.  They will be up and down.

If we build some belief, we could cause some trouble.

I don't think this is our year, but with some stability, good leadership, our good players remaining good and our young brigade building 2025, we could be right up there.

 

[ElDiablo14 4,987]

52 minutes ago, Stretch Johnson said:

It's been a while since we had a win like that without Gawn, Petracca, Oliver or Viney being in our best.

 

 

It feels like the change of the guard.... But we still have long term contracts with Petracca, Oliver and Lever amongst others.

So I think it's truly a mini rebuild on the fly.

[ElDiablo14 4,987]

41 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

Windsor was amazing today! his work rate is incredible, the fact he can run like he does and still just find some juice to sprint the way he can when required is amazing! not many players have the speed/endurance combo like he does, and even less also possess incredible footy IQ and poise. 

Loving the Rivers move into the midfield! 

I don't think it's any coincidence sadly that Van Rooyen and Fritsch played their best games in some time the week Petty was out and Melksham was in, the sum of all parts was significantly better today and it really did highlight to me how big a hinderance Petty has become up forward. 

Melksham is soooo elite with his foot skills, great weapon to link up to the likes of Fritta, JVR and Kozzy.

 

[Nascent 8,907]

10 minutes ago, Dingo said:

So we got a forward line ?

3 good pieces of it

[Redleg 40,617]

I will say something I definitely wouldn’t have said pre season.

Melk and Tom Mac must go another season.

[Adam The God 29,796]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

It's the kids for me that is the story of today.

Kolt has swagger and campaigner about him. I have desperately wanted this kind of player since Bernie Vince or Tom Bugg. He's also a very impressive young player

JVR will be a our number 1 key forward from next year onwards. He's got it all.

Windsor - Enough said, the kid has class and star factor.

McVee - All class and silk. His composure right on the members wing pretty dam impressive. 

Andy Moniz Wakefield - give me a contract extension. The kid is a beauty. Tough, composed and reminds of another #45 who used to bounced off half back.

Turner rarely loses a contests. He engages and then brings the ball to ground. He'll only get better with age and experience.

Then there is Rivers and Koz who play like 150 game veterans. 

Agree completely. 

I love watching Judd play. He's so clean on the ground, always composed and a beautiful kick.

Jason Taylor and co, take a bow.

Edited July 7 by Binmans PA

[dees189227 12,319]

I know his kicking isn't great but viney makes for it with his tackles & aggression. 

I think he took it personally with what Harley did last time. In the 1st half he sat Harley on his backside,  nailed him in tackles & was just aggressive with him.

[Adam The God 29,796]

1 hour ago, sue said:

Just to prove I don’t only whinge when we lose :  that insufficient intent given against the WCE player who belted the ball forward was absolutely stupid. He was clearly trying to get it to 2 teammates all on their own 30m away.   Came off his fist slightly off and went 20m and went out. Good grief

I ironically called for deliberate and then he paid it! I shouted out that I was only joking.

Terrible decision. 

[Demon Jack 6,817]

1 hour ago, Deefender said:

Daniel Turner is a reliable kick for goal and he has good hands. The future is bright for him.

Well done Jason Taylor .

I still see him as a defender long term, especially after May retires in the next 2-3 years but he's made a great fist of it as a forward thus far this season. 

[Demon Disciple 11,906]

My favourite part of the game was when Max came in and dealt with Reid after he thought he could simply bully Kolt without repercussions.

Loved seeing our skip fly the flag, as much as seeing Max get angry. He is an even more imposing figure when throwing his weight around.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,032]

Great to see our ball movement off half back and our attack/pressure on the opposition. It was there last week but we couldn't sustain, bring that effort every week and we will win more than we lose.

[Buzzy 992]

Clayton ranked only above Woewodin for us ... what's going on there?  He is a shell of his former self. 

[Dee*ceiving 1,649]

1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

I still don’t know how they’re so bad. They have Waterman, Allen and Ryan up forward. They have Yeo, Kelly, Reid in the middle and McGovern, Duggan and Barras down back. That’s some good players who would get a game for any side. 
 

Ryan in the back line for 3 qtrs.  If we played Kozzie in the backline we'd be stripped of draft picks for the subsequent 3 seasons. 

[At the break of Gawn 4,458]

Fantastic win. I know some would have been disappointed with it not being a 12–13 goal win but the Eagles haven’t really been belted by huge numbers this year except for the Adelaide game.

The thing that impressed me the most was wrestling back the momentum mid qtr multiple times. That’s something we’ve struggled with this year but we did it well today.

The big question is how do we make room for Petty? I still feel we still need him there as I thought we looked a little too short up forward when JvR was in the ruck. 

Edited July 7 by At the break of Gawn

[beelzebub 23,261]

1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

No, that isn't.

That's pessimism. 

If you don't think we're in the hunt to make finals where we sit right now, that's your pessimism talking. You're entitled to your view, but FFS please stop calling it "realism". It's just your view.

PS what were you expecting when you said pre-game "win, and win well, and we'll build momentum and belief". 54 points isn't winning well?

You seemingly struggle with parallel concepts.

Yes...that was a good win. There were some great elements and efforts.  Some...meh..  overall.  Very good.

Does that put us in the hunt as you desperately want to be. ??  You say yes. I say no... simply because we're not going to be in the 8 come EOS. 

Reality is reality..  You're describing impressions... wants etc... they are a different thing.  

You're bowling in the wrong lane if you think one is the other.

Btw...can i add utilities to the rent.... cheers

[deeko 952]

19 minutes ago, Buzzy said:

Clayton ranked only above Woewodin for us ... what's going on there?  He is a shell of his former self. 

I was there today having a good look at Clayton.

He definitely is playing a different role and lots of time was clearly defending stoppages with his back to the ball blocking Yeo.

 

[Nasher 33,607]

Optimism = we will make the 8

Pessimism = we won’t make the 8

Realism = we have a chance of making the 8.

The pessimists believing they are the realists is the misconception of the ages.

[Jibroni 4,963]

TBH it does not overly bother me if we make the finals or not. Its just pleasing to see young players been given an opportunity and make the most of the opportunities given.

Clarry is only going at 40% capacity which is now understandable given his lack of offseason conditioning.