Mick Malthouse "Demons Culture"

[Engorged Onion 10,112]

Mmmm, the only club with cultural issues. Uh huh. Let's think back to WCE during the mid 00's, or individuals of the Hawthorn, Geelong and even Tigers teams. during the 00's and 10's.

There is a serious, serious issue with linking  nonperforming teams and having that code for 'cultural issues'. But it is the court of public perception and people don't mind drinking that kool aid...

It's low hanging fruit.

 I also get that people don't see it my way.

 

[Demonsone 1,938]

1 hour ago, Demon17 said:

Read Ch7 Interview with brody grundy about his MFC experienece and our culture. 

Dropped online today .  Couldn't be more different, in a posiitve way, than the media white noise from those on the outside - as opposed by someone from the inside with no agenda to push, like clicks.

Swans ( incl them having JJ) are now my second team for this season.

 

I did ready & correct, but to give up on this from both Goodwin was way too early, was the risk vs reward thought through?? It falls at the feet of the goody & the coaches  

[dazzledavey36 52,641]

2 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

He had a little help with the west coast premierships.

Nah

[dazzledavey36 52,641]

2 hours ago, MoeSyzlak said:

Coached the most games in the history of the AFL (718). I’d say that gives him some credibility. 

He'd certainly have a sense of what culture is.

Of course he wouldn't know the full inside depth of our club but his opinion is based on a number of exposed factors that everyone else has judged us on.

[Sir Why You Little 36,569]

19 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

Mmmm, the only club with cultural issues. Uh huh. Let's think back to WCE during the mid 00's, or individuals of the Hawthorn, Geelong and even Tigers teams. during the 00's and 10's.

There is a serious, serious issue with linking  nonperforming teams and having that code for 'cultural issues'. But it is the court of public perception and people don't mind drinking that kool aid...

It's low hanging fruit.

 I also get that people don't see it my way.

 

Culture is measured by Wins and Losses, but you cannot deny anything that Malthouse has stated. It’s not nice reading, but we shouldn’t dismiss it either 

I was very concerned after Pert made the Comments on Radio about our culture being Rock Solid, you cannot say things like that with so much Media scrutiny from many platforms these days. But he did it…

[dazzledavey36 52,641]

1 hour ago, demon3165 said:

Can never understand why people get their knickers in a knot when outside people the club comment on Melbourne after all that's what this forum does.

Because they're precious bunch lol.. Our form will attract the criticism it deserves. 

Only way to silence them is by winning the games we should be winning.

[drysdale demon 4,673]

28 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Nah

Oh yeah, but i won't go into on this site.

[Demon Dynasty 17,080]

2 hours ago, chook fowler said:

Bitter and twisted old fart.

Bit harsh Chook.

I for one don't think of you like that.

[Fanatique Demon 2,621]

3 hours ago, Demon17 said:

Read Ch7 Interview with brody grundy about his MFC experienece and our culture. 

Dropped online today .  Couldn't be more different, in a posiitve way, than the media white noise from those on the outside - as opposed by someone from the inside with no agenda to push, like clicks.

Swans ( incl them having JJ) are now my second team for this season.

 

Link please.

[Moonshadow 17,456]

54 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Because they're precious bunch lol.. Our form will attract the criticism it deserves. 

Only way to silence them is by winning the games we should be winning.

Yes, Goody hung his hat on that earlier in the season. Kinda like putting it all on the line

And we sit 11th. 

Somethings not right, Dazzle. 

[The heart beats true 17,734]

I welcome an opinion, but I hope the West Australian didn’t pay too much for that article. It literally has no new information, and even not much of a unique opinion. It’s just a retelling of events.

I wish my job was that easy.

[beelzebub 23,168]

Gee ...we don't like it when faced with the truth...    so tempted to cite A Few Good Men.

Take away the author's identity i challenge the naysayers to actually debate the article.  So easy to lazily call names and mock disdain. 

For mine he pretty well nails it.  The truth can be and often is ugly. Actually I thought he held back somewhat.

So again...point by point ... engage...

Or just sit there.... and throw barbs simply because the truth annoys.

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,692]

4 hours ago, chook fowler said:

Bitter and twisted old fart.

He's not just a bitter and twisted old fart; he's the grand master of crankiness, with a PhD in grumbling and a black belt in complaining. Oh, and thanks for the Mark Neeld tip you *&^%.

[Fromgotowoewodin 1,491]

25 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

So again...point by point ... engage...

Point by point? Why? We read it all in February, and January, and December.. nothing new there. Easy to write it now and say the warning signs were there, but he tipped us for 5th preseason so where was Nostradamick then?

https://archive.md/xpua8

Fine, he’s kicking us while we’re down, good luck to him but let’s not pretend he’s got any great insight here. 

[Fritta and Turner 4,166]

Ok, do you really think that Steven may goes missing during games?

And should the Pres and CEO comment on football matters mid season?

 

[Fromgotowoewodin 1,491]

21 minutes ago, Fritta and Turner said:

 

Ok, do you really think that Steven may goes missing during games?

 

He 100% made that up cos he wanted to give May a backhander

[bing181 8,874]

58 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

For mine he pretty well nails it. 

He hasn't nailed anything. All he's done is taken the dots and come up with a story that fits. See below, the one in purple.

 

[beelzebub 23,168]

6 minutes ago, bing181 said:

He hasn't nailed anything. All he's done is taken the dots and come up with a story that fits. See below, the one in purple.

 

Crayons...

Is that your level ? 

[chook fowler 19,248]

2 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Bit harsh Chook.

I for one don't think of you like that.

But I am.

[Fromgotowoewodin 1,491]

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

So easy to lazily call names and mock disdain. 

 

5 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Crayons...

Is that your level ? 

Pot, kettle?

[chookrat 4,200]

3 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Culture is measured by Wins and Losses, but you cannot deny anything that Malthouse has stated. It’s not nice reading, but we shouldn’t dismiss it either 

I was very concerned after Pert made the Comments on Radio about our culture being Rock Solid, you cannot say things like that with so much Media scrutiny from many platforms these days. But he did it…

Malthouse looks at what Pert said last year about our culture from the perspective of the media. I reckon at the time Pert was more concerned about backing our footy department publicly while assuring supporters, more specifically members, and sponsors.

I rarely watch opposition pressers but used to almost religiously watch Carlton's when Malthouse was coaching them because he would pick fights with Journos pretty much every week.

[beelzebub 23,168]

20 minutes ago, Fromgotowoewodin said:

 

Pot, kettle?

Youre not thar bright are you ?

There's no connect.... but hey.

[picket fence 16,624]

7 hours ago, sam6172 said:

Article from the West. Thoughts? Another beat up or kernels of truth? Link below

https://archive.md/u7nqN

Agree 100 % with his assessment!

[Fromgotowoewodin 1,491]

5 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Youre not thar bright are you ?

There's no connect.... but hey.

If you’re going to question my intelligence try not to misspell 2 out of your first 6 words but hey. 

The connection, which was quite clear, is that you were accusing others of not addressing Malthouse’s points and instead mocking him, and when someone else made another quite clear point about Malthouse making up stories to fit the facts you chose to mock them rather than address the point. Simples when you think about it. 

[Sir Why You Little 36,569]

24 minutes ago, chookrat said:

Malthouse looks at what Pert said last year about our culture from the perspective of the media. I reckon at the time Pert was more concerned about backing our footy department publicly while assuring supporters, more specifically members, and sponsors.

I rarely watch opposition pressers but used to almost religiously watch Carlton's when Malthouse was coaching them because he would pick fights with Journos pretty much every week.

Pert took a big Gamble talking to Garry, a Past Captain. I know why he did it, but it has backfired, potentially very badly. 
Pert was hoping to sort it all out internally, but the Footy Department has not been able to perform to the level. 
You must also remember that not all of the readers of Malthouse article know what is going on at MFC 

It’s a Western Australian readership. 
 

Garry was potted by many for not believing. He was concerned like many of us