I'd rather be blooding Verall first personally. 

11 hours ago, MurDoc516 said:

What has our list managers done that's left us in a situation where we our best key forward is 187cm.

JVR has shown some promise but he is as fustrating as Petty at times. 

Petty was a premiership defender and we throw him forward because we can't trade/draft any one [censored] decent.

I know many on here will crucify me for saying this but JVR will continue to struggle with his trampoline hands, Petty aint a forward and is seriously overated on this site and Tracc will not get anywhere near superstar status till he nails gettable , clutch goals , when it counts! We have been CRYING out for a Gorilla forward for YEARS and the fact we still haven't been able to secure one really is starting to hit home. Other clubs seem to be able to haggle and trade aggresively but we seemingly cannot! End of rant, for now!

I actually think it would be detrimental to Jeffo's development to play him in the seniors atm.

He is starting to find consistency at VFL level and kicking goals. Moving up to AFL level is a huge jump up and may kill his confidence. Would rather he keeps kicking bags at VFL for a while.

I will say I'm feeling positive about him long term after watching his last few games. Great mover and a natural forward, just needs to keep building his body and tank. He is too inconsistent throughout games atm.

1 minute ago, picket fence said:

I know many on here will crucify me for saying this but JVR will continue to struggle with his trampoline hands, Petty aint a forward and is seriously overated on this site and Tracc will not get anywhere near superstar status till he nails gettable , clutch goals , when it counts! We have been CRYING out for a Gorilla forward for YEARS and the fact we still haven't been able to secure one really is starting to hit home. Other clubs seem to be able to haggle and trade aggresively but we seemingly cannot! End of rant, for now!

what other clubs have haggled and traded aggressively to bring in a gun key forward?

• bears - joe daniher as a free agent
• puddy tatts - cameron for the 3 first round picks they got for tim kelly (plus a nice farm to call his own)
• tiggas - tom lynch as a free agent

key forwards don't grow on trees

by the by, we traded one in - ben brown, for the pick we got for brayden preuss for gw$, effectively - and won a premiership

7 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

what other clubs have haggled and traded aggressively to bring in a gun key forward?

• bears - joe daniher as a free agent
• puddy tatts - cameron for the 3 first round picks they got for tim kelly (plus a nice farm to call his own)
• tiggas - tom lynch as a free agent

key forwards don't grow on trees

by the by, we traded one in - ben brown, for the pick we got for brayden preuss for gw$, effectively - and won a premiership

We had the chance to re sign Jessie Hogan and we didn't! 

14 minutes ago, picket fence said:

We had the chance to re sign Jessie Hogan and we didn't! 

After he’d kicked 5 goals in 7 games in 2020? Demonland would’ve melted down if we’d signed him then

His draft year was just not that good, even Cadman at pick 1 is still well away from being a full fledged key forward. Needs way more time. 

20 years old and not even 2 seasons in.  The kid isn't ready, and doesn't have the build like JVR to hold up at AFL level.

On 20/05/2024 at 10:32, picket fence said:

We had the chance to re sign Jessie Hogan and we didn't! 

you're probably correct, but we signed ben brown instead

If Jeffo was a Casey player he would barely be talked about as a mid season draft prospect. 

He might be starting to turn the corner but he’s still a long way to go 

Struggling to impose himself at Casey so promote him up to the next level - sounds logical to me.

The amount of pressure the fans put on JVR, and now Jefferson is a bit silly.

Jake Waterman has exploded as one of the games best forwards only now, after years being a middling prospect. 

Patience is required.

Edited May 22, 20241 yr by MrFreeze

1 hour ago, MrFreeze said:

The amount of pressure the fans put on JVR, and now Jefferson is a bit silly.

Jake Waterman has exploded as one of the games best forwards only now, after years being a middling prospect. 

Patience is required.

Waterman is also from good Neanderthal stock….

1 hour ago, MrFreeze said:

The amount of pressure the fans put on JVR, and now Jefferson is a bit silly.

Jake Waterman has exploded as one of the games best forwards only now, after years being a middling prospect. 

Patience is required.

They're also tracking similarly:

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=12&pid1=6962&fid1=O&playerStatus2=A&tid2=19&pid2=6320&fid2=O&type=A

 

Same as vs Lynch

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=12&pid1=6962&fid1=O&playerStatus2=A&tid2=15&pid2=3457&fid2=O&type=A

 

And not far behind Curnow

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=12&pid1=6962&fid1=O&playerStatus2=A&tid2=4&pid2=4163&fid2=O&type=A

Cometh the hour, cometh the man, it’s time, bring Jeffo on.

On 19/05/2024 at 21:45, Demonsterative said:

Give Fullerton a go first. He may not be a world beater, but he is athletic and will give a contest. Jeffo ain’t there yet. 

I must agree - Fullarton was recruited as a mature, game ready tall forward who can ruck a bit.  
We have desperately needed both this season but haven’t given him a look in.  Buyers regret?
If he doesn’t get picked when we are as desperate as we are he will be a totally wasted trade. 

I'm still hopeful for Jefferson.....but he's nowhere near ready yet.

Well I have seen snipperts of Brilliance albeit briefly, but they are there!🤩 Agree not there yet but I am extremely optimistic

GO MAGICIAN!

On 20/05/2024 at 00:09, layzie said:

I'd rather be blooding Verall first personally. 

Me too.

He’s not ready.  Jeffo needs the rest of the year at Casey for sure.  It’s not the right move and could do more harm than good.  

On 20/05/2024 at 05:54, praha said:

Who is Jeffo?

our saviour apparently.

Not a good idea to bring him in when we're under the pump. too much expectation for a young key.

42 minutes ago, BDA said:

our saviour apparently.

Jeffers H Christ

Edited May 22, 20241 yr by John Demonic

11 hours ago, bluey said:

Cometh the hour, cometh the man, it’s time, bring Jeffo on.

Cometh the " Age of Stupidity " 

13 hours ago, praha said:

They're also tracking similarly:

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=12&pid1=6962&fid1=O&playerStatus2=A&tid2=19&pid2=6320&fid2=O&type=A

 

Same as vs Lynch

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=12&pid1=6962&fid1=O&playerStatus2=A&tid2=15&pid2=3457&fid2=O&type=A

 

And not far behind Curnow

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=12&pid1=6962&fid1=O&playerStatus2=A&tid2=4&pid2=4163&fid2=O&type=A

It also questions the 'premiership window closing' narrative, as we have a great crop of young players ready to make massive developments over the next 3-5 years. He is tracking great, as are a bunch of others.