POSTGAME: Rd 10 vs West Coast

[SPC 3,596]

15 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

I'm one of the more optimistic posters on here but that was genuinely [censored]. Still think we will be OK but the margin for error is shrinking. There's a few that have to go back to Casey for a while.

No one to bring in. We have the worst young talent in the VFL right now 

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,955]

Looks like the boys circled Perth in as a holiday on the calendar instead of another business trip. 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,468]

Pathetic performance

[DubDee 26,674]

3 minutes ago, Abyssal said:

The selection of Brown was ridiculous. 
With Van Rooyen out, they were down not only a Key Forward but also their relieve ruck.

Clearly Brown was not going to fill both roles.

They had the chance to try Fullarton in the role they brought him to the club for, but opted not to.

Arrogant or incompetent or weak decision.

most were supportive on here at selection. you honestly thing Fullarton would make a difference with 21 less inside 50s?

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,293]

We lost far too many of our premiership year depth. Look at Harmes, Jordon, Bedford and even Hunt. Then look at replacements - Billings Schache McAdam.

we still have Laurie who is t up to AFL level. 
 

we went backwards with our list. The loss of Brayshaw a huge factor too

[Deesprate 1,324]

3 minutes ago, Docs Demons said:

Gee that must have lost us the game. Get over it will you!!

Bit touchy good luck to him but was a comment about umpiring inconsistency

[Swooper Northey 499]

We're overly reliant on Petracca, Oliver and Viney in the midfield which makes us predictable. Over the summer the challenge will be to add another quality experienced mid or two to that group. We've spoken at length about the loss of Gus on this forum, but his absence from the midfield right now is really noticeable. 

[Fromgotowoewodin 1,606]

20 minutes ago, Red But Mostly Blue said:

 

To all the posters saying a 6-7 goal win was guaranteed/a must - that mentality is exactly why we lost. Because it was shared by this team. We expected to walk up and win, but the Eagles, like every other team know that if you show up and work hard from the first bounce, you can beat us.

 

Yeah nah. Team has finished top 4 last 3 years, we’re entitled to go into a game against a bottom 4 team expecting a win. Do you think pies or cats fans wet the bed in the lead up to a game against a bottom 4 team? 

Can’t blame supporters for the team being no good.

[DEElirium 16]

Can’t wait to see how binman can spin this one we are cooked Ben brown should never play again Mc Adam is useless billing’s could not get a kick in a stampede mfcss is real they should be made to walk back to vic none of them deserve the plane ride home 

[titan_uranus 25,255]

Tonight is:

1. The first time we've lost by more than 30 points since Round 11, 2022 vs Fremantle (i.e. a week short of two years ago)
2. The highest score we've conceded since Round 19, 2022 vs the Dogs
3. Our 8th straight week scoring under 100 points - our longest stretch since, funnily enough, Rounds 8-19 in 2021.
4. Likely to be our first loss to a side who will finish the season in the bottom 4 since Round 9, 2021 vs Adelaide

[Demonsterative 3,021]

Just now, DubDee said:

most were supportive on here at selection. you honestly thing Fullarton would make a difference with 21 less inside 50s?

The point being what does BBB provide to the team, structure, attack and defence? 
 

BBB is good man, but he is beyond it right now. Fullerton can provide a contest. 

[beelzebub 23,392]

Just now, layzie said:

I'm not angry, I'm disappointed. Like a really let down parent.

Exactly.. im not mad... quite frankly i dont expect any better.  And thats the rub...a big rub !!

Am i surprised... ( not really ) ... that folk  still think we masterminded our flag and Simon walks on water. He doesn't.  He's very  limited really.  He DOES  have some serious  game ability...but ...gets caught in traffic.

Simpson can coach....  He also has runs on the board.   West Toast...[censored]... odd club.

Please we need to address the Elephants  in the room.

[DubDee 26,674]

Just now, Demonsterative said:

The point being what does BBB provide to the team, structure, attack and defence? 
 

BBB is good man, but he is beyond it right now. Fullerton can provide a contest. 

Brown was horrible. I just don’t like people saying we lost this at selection like Wayne Carey is sitting there not being picked 

[layzie 34,528]

The selection really was a joke this week.

Lost some honest toilers in the last few years and picked up some erratic pick and choose when to goers. 

Will give e McAdam more of a chance but he was way off. I don't know what Billings is offering us right now apart from fluffing chances from 15 out and the odd target hit.

Please please please selection committee, put Taj Woeeodin in the team next week. We need heart right now, not apparent skill or name.

[Roger Mellie 4,205]

A combination of factors:

Win was pencilled in

Midfield has major issues and no depth

Throw something curly at the Dees and we struggle to adapt

Midfield:

Clarry - attacks the contest but doesn't defend. When he gets the pill he blazes away. Might be better to just dish it off by hand.

Trac - brilliant attacking player, but doesn't defend

Viney - gives his all but when he's sending the ball forward it's mostly a turnover.

Sparrow - defensive b grade workhorse

That's pretty much it plus midfield - no depth

May had a rare stinker and not on his own.

Edited May 19, 2024 by Roger Mellie

[DubDee 26,674]

25 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

We lost to a team that has only won 7 games in 3 years

Hang your heads in shame

Goodwin and the selection committee should resign

Why didn’t Bevo resign then?

WC Have won 3 of the last 4 at home and are no longer easy beats

[Lou C. Fur 1,009]

3 minutes ago, DEElirium said:

Can’t wait to see how binman can spin this one we are cooked Ben brown should never play again Mc Adam is useless billing’s could not get a kick in a stampede mfcss is real they should be made to walk back to vic none of them deserve the plane ride home 

Quite the measured response...

[Demonsterative 3,021]

1 minute ago, DubDee said:

Brown was horrible. I just don’t like people saying we lost this at selection like Wayne Carey is sitting there not being picked 

Agility is our weakness in too many areas. We can’t have the BBB’s on field when he can’t defend, turn, contest a mark or kick goals. Unfortunately he is a liability in which opposition defenders can play off him, yet defend him when needed. 
 

Not the reason, but a big part of the problem 

[titan_uranus 25,255]

Just now, beelzebub said:

Exactly.. im not mad... quite frankly i dont expect any better.  And thats the rub...a big rub !!

Am i surprised... ( not really ) ... that folk  still think we masterminded our flag and Simon walks on water. He doesn't.  He's very  limited really.  He DOES  have some serious  game ability...but ...gets caught in traffic.

Simpson can coach....  He also has runs on the board.   West Toast...[censored]... odd club.

Please we need to address the Elephants  in the room.

What are you on about?

What "runs on the board" does Simpson have over Goodwin? Both have the same number of flags. A quick Google and calculation (which therefore may be wrong) tells me that Goodwin has a 59% win rate to Simpson's 50% in their coaching careers, too.

Simpson also oversaw two of the most disastrous years of football any side has produced in living memory, up there with our years in the Neeld era.

Why the [censored] didn't you expect any better? For the last four years we haven't lost games to bad sides, nor have we lost games by 30+ points. This shouldn't be happening, and you're posting like it should?

[Sir Why You Little 37,457]

Let’s not forget the absence of Lingers. He knows that ground very well, and was a huge out. 
I watched Meth Coke last week, and i am not surprised that they turned it on. 
Reid is a freak. He tore us apart 

[Moonshadow 17,678]

Why are we bringing in discards from other clubs? Billings, Hunter, Schache and Dunstan last year? Yet to be seen if McAdam joins them. Do they really improve our list?

We used to bring in high quality players, such as Lever, May and Hibbo. Even Tommo has been good at times

WE NEED A KEY FORWARD WHO CAN PLAY AS A KEY FORWARD CONSISTENTLY!!! Not a good KPD to play as a forward, not a teenager to take the best defender every week, not a 30+ year old with no knees!

We'd kill for Curnow, McKay or Waterman who have all played well against us in the last two weeks

As good as JT and TL are, surely this is a priority?

[ElDiablo14 5,055]

10 minutes ago, Fromgotowoewodin said:

Don’t buy into that asterisk rubbish, any team would’ve taken a flag that year and be lauding it over everyone. We were the best team in it that year by far and smashed all comers. 

Should’ve won another one in 22 or 23 but now we look cooked. No depth and couldn’t get the key forward we needed.

It boggles the mind how a premiership team couldn't attract a half decent KPF two years in a row.

I thought we had a chance with Georgiades or McKay, maybe a King brother.

Nothing... Just Grundy and Petty to show for.

[Deemania since 56 6,808]

24 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

A game we lost because our opponent was simply better. I don’t think this new game plan is going to work. We simply don’t have enough elite ball users to create attack off half back. Nor do we have the forwardline. 
Time to reassess what we do for the remainder of the year, because if we are willing to go back in order to go forward in 2025, then we need to invest heavily in better ball users in the trade period. 

I was waiting for game methods and position changes to take place halfway through the first quarter. Stagnant, lie down and be trampled, by-passed, helpless. Big changes overdue, coaches included. Long bombs got us into early troubles and turnovers, foot passing is horrendous. By half-time, there were at least 20 poor delivery selections when those working to make the game ours were ignored, particularly out of the centre. Toughen up the young 'uns; clubs that have had zero choice have done so - happily reaping the rewards. What a shambles were are presenting.

[Roy Boy 382]

Be nice if Goody could skip the presser, cause I almost don’t want to hear the dribble that comes out his mouth 🤮

[Jerry Lundergard 420]

18 minutes ago, Demonsterative said:

It was TMac. Not May. Either either they had fantastic delivery by a much better, agile, faster and creative midfield.

Go back and watch the start of the game.  May clearly started on him, and Waterman ran him up the field like Curnow did. They made the change to TMac in the 2nd qtr.