POSTGAME: Rd 07 vs Richmond

[layzie 29,137]

I thought I our defensive structures held up really well all game and our intercept game was in full effect with 12 marks for May and 11 for Lever. There was really no other way for Richmond to score other than hope for a turnover when we were sucked up the ground. We simply just didn't execute in that first half but you can really just put the memory of that in the bin. We know that's not a reflection of this team's skill level and I think you and I know this team a little better.

May and Lever outstanding, Rivers and T-Mac did their job. Howes continues to go unnoticed, no news is good news in the role he plays.

To see Trac heavily tagged and try hard to work through it rather than crack it was very encouraging and he did come into it in that second half. Clarry looked better but maybe still not quite 100%.

Here's an interesting stat:

Inside 50 count was dead even at 50 each, we had 26 shots 52% and they had 16 32%. I just wanted to show that while we've got our issues going into 50 and makikg the most of chances, this is a reasonable return. 

How much better is this side with Kozzie in it?

Thought Max deserved the BOG, a lot more hitouts to advantage this week and great around the ground stuff. Ed Langdon was great, maybe one of his better games for the year.

I think we're a work in progress at the moment. It's very much to the finished product but you can see what they're trying to achieve with the way they are moving the footy. The measuring stick will be right there next week but I do think we can go up a gear. Coach Eddie will be satisfied.

Have a good ANZAC day everyone and tale care. Go Dees!

[layzie 29,137]

5 minutes ago, binman said:

I'm terrible at maths. A question for anyone who is not.

We gained 7.6%.

How much percentage would we have gained if we win that match 113 to 70.

It's a good question, I'm definitely guessing less.

[Bang Na Demon 127]

9 minutes ago, binman said:

I'm terrible at maths. A question for anyone who is not.

We gained 7.6%.

How much percentage would we have gained if we win that match 113 to 70.

124.6% or 6.1%

Edited April 24 by Bang Na Demon
factual adjustment

[Binmans PA 26,292]

53 minutes ago, Garbo said:

Say that next week, because if we play like that vs cats it will be over by half time and it will be the lions game all over again. All fine if we want to limp into the 8 and make up the numbers but I think most people here would expect more

I'm sorry but this is such a nuff nuff argument. We weren't playing Geelong. We were playing an injury depleted low rung opposition and we knew that. Not to mention, you don't think Yze is a smart enough coach to bring the game down a few notches to make it an arm wrestle?

Yes, play like the first half against Geelong and we won't score much and will probably concede more, but next week is a totally different game.

51 minutes ago, M_9 said:

ABC radio said Clarry was hit behind play. Possibly an open palm rather than a closed ‘fist’. Sounds like he’ll have a case to answer.

The field umpire was right there. He saw the hit and instead of issuing a 50 to Fritta who had the ball 45m out, he just watched the players go after MP. Pathetic umpiring.

[Skuit 9,290]

Today I learned that Ralph Smith from Richmond doesn't get the Bobby Hill full-name treatment but is actually a bloke named Hugo. I'm still not sure about the umpire Mattstevic though. 

[Jjrogan 1,235]

6 minutes ago, binman said:

I'm terrible at maths. A question for anyone who is not.

We gained 7.6%.

How much percentage would we have gained if we win that match 113 to 70.

We'd be on 124.6. So 6.1. 

I reckon we look back and pin point this as the turning point in our forward line structure. Turner can play, he leads up, finds separation, has sticky hands and is faster than JVR or Petty (or so it appears).   Real prospect. 

[Binmans PA 26,292]

11 minutes ago, Young Blood said:

Yes but you would think some better forward pressure would help as well causing poorer opposition kicks/disposal out of the backline which results in the turnovers on the wings. I do think its coming out too easily and too cleanly far too often. But part of that is playing a taller forward line as well.

But then there are opposition players in the hole in our forward 50. Much better to let them advance up the ground and then have space to go back into. IMO anyway.

[Demondan75 179]

2 hours ago, Jeremy said:

Was it really necessary to sign JVR for another FOUR years? Surely two would’ve been enough? Not saying he won’t make it, but seems a bit over the top for what he’s produced this year, another 5 years ahead, good luck to him 

It's a speculative decision Jeremy, but I'm sure the club is stoked that he chose to stay in Melbourne, and I don't reckon he'd be on big bucks for the duration of this contract. He's an above average second ruck when needed, and when he gets his timing right I reckon he'll be a very dangerous option in the forward fifty going forward.

[binman 38,755]

11 minutes ago, Jjrogan said:

We'd be on 124.6. So 6.1. 

I reckon we look back and pin point this as the turning point in our forward line structure. Turner can play, he leads up, finds separation, has sticky hands and is faster than JVR or Petty (or so it appears).   Real prospect. 

Ta.

Our percentage is now 126.1.

Some would have been thrilled if we won that game with a score of 113 to 70.

Because if we played like that against (insert some supposedly unbeatable team here) and all that.

But we win 85 to 42 (kicking 10 in the second half mind you) and despite gaining 1.5% more it's somwhow a fail.

Like you get a percentage boost or an extra point for style.

We missed finals by 0.2% in 2017.

Edited April 24 by binman

[Young Blood 2,036]

7 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

But then there are opposition players in the hole in our forward 50. Much better to let them advance up the ground and then have space to go back into. IMO anyway.

I understand the logic to a point. We're generally looking to make the opposition turn the ball over in the middle and on the wings where there is space to rebound and hopefully kick to a more open forward line, sure. But I don't think any forward whose in the vicinity of an opposition player disposing of the ball should just 'let them advance up the ground'. I'm sure you didn't mean this in that way. I'd just like to see better intensity when there's opportunity to force the opposition the hack the ball out of defence as apposed to clean chains of ball movement which is happening too often.

No matter how good our team defence is further up the ground. More strings to our bow! We need to score in multiple ways and if we can cause opposition mistakes deep in forward 50 we should still be trying to turn them into scores.

I think the new game plan is great with trying to create more spaces in forward 50 but its just not realistic that we will be able to do this consistently in every game. We will need to play the forward half pressure game still at times depending on matchups, weather, fatigue etc.

Edited April 24 by Young Blood

[Skuit 9,290]

Just quietly: a player like Pickett you can't measure on available stats, but he's on the way to another 40-plus season (Cyril achieved that twice in his career). Fritta will also likely be in the top six or so for the Coleman by the end of the round. And Petracca is on track to once again claim the goal assists title. 

[DeeZee 6,779]

I thought we found two forwards tonight.

Turner goes with out saying , but Bills two main attributes are tackling and foot skills which make him a perfect small forward 

[WERRIDEE 5,218]

Disgusting first half everything went wrong. To the boys credit they stuck to their guns and had a really good win. Gawn deserved the Hughes medal absolute champion. Great games from Turner, Lever and May also. Massive game against Geelong that will really show where were at.

 

[In Harmes Way 7,586]

Clever tactic from Goody - bamboozle Yze by putting Disco in the forward line. Think you know us? Think again.

[WalkingCivilWar 32,727]

“If we play like that next week vs (whomever), we’re done.”

”Had we been playing against a half-decent side we would’ve been flogged.”

Same old, same old. 🙄 

We’re not even a third of the way through the season, and the season is long. There’s gonna be ups and downs and even sideways. Nothing is decided in April. Take the win ffs. Moreover, ENJOY the win. Enjoy each and every win, even if only for 24 hours. Please and thanks. 👍🏽😃

[Go Lordie 278]

3 hours ago, Return to Glory said:

Brilliant that Disco and Bill can be great contributors. Not sure I want Petty in the side for a while. Doesn't appear invested.

Embarrassing that half our goals came from a duo with less than 10 games between them.

[dee-tox 4,827]

7 minutes ago, Go Lordie said:

Embarrassing that half our goals came from a duo with less than 10 games between them.

Think there was a concerted effort to target Disco knowing how sticky his hands are. That's not embarrassing but smart.

[Skuit 9,290]

2 hours ago, binman said:

I'm terrible at maths. A question for anyone who is not.

We gained 7.6%.

How much percentage would we have gained if we win that match 113 to 70.

I get your point. But I'm in full demonstone mode trying to work out where you plucked your example numbers from? 

[In Harmes Way 7,586]

1 hour ago, Go Lordie said:

Embarrassing that half our goals came from a duo with less than 10 games between them.

I’m actually glass half full on that one. Again tipping the hat to JT

[thirty-one 45]

4 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

I noticed that Trac, Oliver and Viney all had around 76% TOG. Something feels up with their fitness - whether they’re injured, “loading” (shudder), or we’re deliberately resting them more in game. But it’s a bit weird.

Is it possible they all had the bug that Vines had in Adelaide?  And they are still getting over it?  I know when I've had the flu, or even just a cold, I don't exactly bounce back to normal fitness in days or weeks if the cough gets me.

[thirty-one 45]

3 hours ago, binman said:

We gained 7.6%.

How much percentage would we have gained if we win that match 113 to 70.

Less, because the ratio will be smaller.  When I do the subtracting and the adding, our percentage would be 124.6 instead of 126.1

Heh.  Binman's had a pile on of replies.  Sorry!  Ah well.  The dee-lights of living 17 hours behind the times.

Anyway, I'm glad to bank the four points and the percentage boost.  Better than a loss.

Edited April 24 by thirty-one

[old dee 22,944]

2 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

“If we play like that next week vs (whomever), we’re done.”

”Had we been playing against a half-decent side we would’ve been flogged.”

Same old, same old. 🙄 

We’re not even a third of the way through the season, and the season is long. There’s gonna be ups and downs and even sideways. Nothing is decided in April. Take the win ffs. Moreover, ENJOY the win. Enjoy each and every win, even if only for 24 hours. Please and thanks. 👍🏽😃

Saying that gives no credit to the tigers. They came to win and negated guys like Petracca in the first half. But in the end it is difficult to keep good players  out for four quarters. 

[old dee 22,944]

Another poor game from Petty, since returning from injury he seems way out of form. 

[Go Lordie 278]

33 minutes ago, old dee said:

Another poor game from Petty, since returning from injury he seems way out of form. 

Or desire.

[Go Lordie 278]

3 hours ago, dee-tox said:

Think there was a concerted effort to target Disco knowing how sticky his hands are. That's not embarrassing but smart.

I did like the way he led  up to the ball.