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The bloke’s jump and knees are a weapon. I haven’t seen someone wreak such havoc to the oppositions ribs, spine, noggin since Alex Rance retired. At least Rance had the guts to occasionally run back with the flight of the ball. Didn’t see it but heard he stuck his knee into Stewart’s head this round, waiting for the karma bus to clean him up.

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I’ve changed the title and some contentious parts of the OP. If Twodogs isn’t happy with this, we can delete the thread entirely.

In any event, please be polite when talking about footballers from other clubs. They’re still human beings and it takes courage and lots more to play the game at this level. 

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It's such a hard one. My dad raised me to use the knee as a weapon, but deep down I feel it's wrong. 

At the top level, I'd do it all the time and force the AFL to make a decision on it. Until it's outlawed, I'm not going to begrudge any player from going the knee within the rules.

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Wow, what a post to end a five-year posting drought. 😅 Then immediately followed up with a sarcastic retort. Way to go @Twodogs

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18 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

I’ve changed the title and some contentious parts of the OP. If Twodogs isn’t happy with this, we can delete the thread entirely.

In any event, please be polite when talking about footballers from other clubs. They’re still human beings and it takes courage and lots more to play the game at this level. 

But feel free to Rubbish Port fans as much as possible

 

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There was no malice from Chol in either of them. The May one happened right in front of me and i watched the Geelong game.

May was flying back courageously at an angle at a furious pace.

Happened in an actual footballing act not like that [censored] from Collingwood

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8 minutes ago, Wrecker46 said:

There was no malice from Chol in either of them. The May one happened right in front of me and i watched the Geelong game.

May was flying back courageously at an angle at a furious pace.

Happened in an actual footballing act not like that [censored] from Collingwood

Whether malice was used is immaterial,  he nearly took out JVR'S brain in a ruck contest. At least the umpire saw that. 

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1 hour ago, Demonstone said:

I think he means Mabior Chol.

He does need to stop using his knees in that manner, not unlike a certain Texan Magpie.

The Texan doesn't look at the ball whereas Mabior does ... our JVR gets up high too but JVR doesn't raise his knee as high at Mabior and JVR shows the appropriate technique

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2 hours ago, Twodogs said:

The bloke’s jump and knees are a weapon. I haven’t seen someone wreak such havoc to the oppositions ribs, spine, noggin since Alex Rance retired. At least Rance had the guts to occasionally run back with the flight of the ball. Didn’t see it but heard he stuck his knee into Stewart’s head this round, waiting for the karma bus to clean him up.

Why do you ask ?

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1 hour ago, Wrecker46 said:

There was no malice from Chol in either of them. The May one happened right in front of me and i watched the Geelong game.

May was flying back courageously at an angle at a furious pace.

Happened in an actual footballing act not like that [censored] from Collingwood

I'm satisfied that there isn't any malice, but I do think he owes other players a duty of care.

Don't see how the league can outlaw sling tackles and shoulders that make head high contact, but allow other parts of the body to be used to the same effect.

Broken ribs are one thing, but a massive wack with a knee to the head like that Geelong bloke copped is bloody dangerous.

Does the AFL need to make a rule for every foreseeable use of the body that makes contact or just put the responsibility back on the player that they execute the way they play properly or get suspended.  If there isn't already a sufficiently general rule, they should make one pronto.

I like Chol, but having his knees do the damage they have in the past two weeks tells me he doesn't care enough for his fellow competitors and needs to change the way he plays or should spend an extended period on the side lines. 

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26 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

 

Does the AFL need to make a rule for every foreseeable use of the body that makes contact or just put the responsibility back on the player that they execute the way they play properly or get suspended.  If there isn't already a sufficiently general rule, they should make one pronto.

 

The AFL/VFL used to have a rule and suspension for it - undually rough play. I don't think either of Chol's would fall into that category but it would stop others getting off on technicalities 

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There was a famous 60s training photo of Alan Aylett, taking a chest mark, jumping forward, “with his boot thrust forward to discourage any oncoming player”. 
 

This was in an ANFC skills manual for boys. 

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9 hours ago, radar said:

There was a famous 60s training photo of Alan Aylett, taking a chest mark, jumping forward, “with his boot thrust forward to discourage any oncoming player”. 
 

This was in an ANFC skills manual for boys. 

Toby Green must've had a copy.

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Chol seems to like playing from behind. Either by trying to take hangers, or hanging back getting 'cheapies' out the back rather than taking front position in marking contests.

He gets a disproportionate number of 'snap' (or rover type) goals for such a big guy. 

Perhaps that's why he's been moved on from 2 previous clubs.  🤔

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There are a few different ways to use knees in a marking contest

1. Put knee on shoulder

2. Jump with your knee so that your shin is perpendicular to the spine of the player in front. Effectively pushing away the player in front

3. Use the'point' of the knee to drive into the player in front. This is the contentious one that does the most damage

The action happens at speed so it's often an unpredictable outcome but players who have grown up in the school yard playing footy typically is 1 or 2 as they aren't trying to 'hurt' the player in front. 

Players that haven't grown up with game and those that are trying to'hurt' the player in front often is number 3

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