26 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

I think Laurie will make it. Our development team have been second to none. I wonder if a centre bounce midfield role would suit him... 

His best trait is his handballing so maybe. But for such a little guy needs to improve core strength. More like Lachie Neale, Rory Laird, etc.

Depth

He's competing with AMW Woey and now Tholstrup.

There's no other midfielders at Casey should we lose an AFL mid so one can see the sense in the signing

Shown glimpses at Casey in some games.  A few very good ones

Hasn't really hit any heights on a consistent basis there though (so far).

Showed a few signs (with hands) at senior level against the Swans in the opening round but outside of that didn't do enough in general and was subbed out with 42% game time for Billings.

5 other senior appearances (including subbed into the Qualifying against the Pies) with little to no impact imv and couldn't retain his spot.

Other than quick hands in congestion i just don't see any stand out weapons that sees him pushing out someone else (similar) at senior level in the near to medium term.

That's not to say he won't make it.  Some players just take longer and he might become a special player.

But why not just play him through to seasons end at Casey with the occasional foray into seniors (if earned).  See how he goes and revisit the contract then.

Too soon to re-sign for mine.

14 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Depth

He's competing with AMW Woey and now Tholstrup.

There's no other midfielders at Casey should we lose an AFL mid so one can see the sense in the signing

Brown?

3 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Our recruiters haven’t put a foot wrong in a loooong time. I trust their judgement over DL pundits. 

 

35 minutes ago, DubDee said:

We’ve seen him a few times, the club has seen him up close for years

Good skills and should be able to play a few different roles for us

Recruiters have been wrong, getting Grundy, then letting him go….is absolutely a huge mistake IMO.

I must say I haven’t seen much to rave about in his few games, and I doubt he would be a flight risk were the re signing left until he has had more opportunities to show his wares, but clearly those who see him all the time can envisage far more than me.  So, I am glad to leave it to the experts and good luck Bill. We should all get behind him. 

Laurie does have quick hands. I have seen him dish out some very sweet handballs in tight situations. 
But he still needs to increase his speed around the ground and develop an endurance tank

Bill has a few tricks in his bag but hasn't put them all on display on the big stage.

Confidence is something he needs to build at Casey and then carry into the senior team.

 

 

4 hours ago, seventyfour said:

Why? I don't get it. Can't see other clubs coming after him so I don't see the need to give him 2 years.

I know players like security but there has to be something positive about putting fringe players on shorter contracts. Gives them a sense of urgency.

We're protecting him from the Bulldogs 

I just can’t work out his position

1 hour ago, Left Foot Snap said:

Brown?

Rookie draft wasn't he?

Has been at the club 5 mins and already has shown way more than Laurie.

Don't get this rubbish that we wouldn't likely get a player better than Laurie at pick 80.

IMHO, Laurie has few weapons or rare qualities such as pace, size or tenacity that would justify such an early and substantial commitment.  His one wood is supposedly poise and being a good ball user, but I've seen very little of that at AFL level and you've got to actually get the ball to use it well.

We've also got plenty of young mids his type, such as Bowey, McVee, Howes, Woewodin, Brown, Winsor, Chandler, Kossie, Rivers, Spargo, Sparrow and potentially Kolt, that all have better weapons and/or potential.

If Laurie hasn't show something decent by half way to 3/4 the way through the season, we'd be far better off recruiting another key position type, where we have more of a need to develop depth and less young players at our disposal on our list.

I respect JT's ability to pick winners, but surely the decision to retain Laurie is less in JT's remit and more in TL's.  I'd rather give JT the oppertunity to find a few raw key position types and stack our investment in that type of player in the next few years.  Similarly, I'd rather we'd gone way harder to keep Toby Bedford, but no use crying over spilt milk I guess I hope Laurrie does become an AFL standard player, because 6 years is a long time to invest in a solid VFL player, who sometimes plays a great game at that level.

12 minutes ago, Viney Vidi Vici said:

I just can’t work out his position

VFL

4 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Rookie draft wasn't he?

Has been at the club 5 mins and already has shown way more than Laurie.

Don't get this rubbish that we wouldn't likely get a player better than Laurie at pick 80.

IMHO, Laurie has few weapons or rare qualities such as pace, size or tenacity that would justify such an early and substantial commitment.  His one wood is supposedly poise and being a good ball user, but I've seen very little of that at AFL level and you've got to actually get the ball to use it well.

We've also got plenty of young mids his type, such as Bowey, McVee, Howes, Woewodin, Brown, Winsor, Chandler, Kossie, Rivers, Spargo, Sparrow and potentially Kolt, that all have better weapons and/or potential.

If Laurie hasn't show something decent by half way to 3/4 the way through the season, we'd be far better off recruiting another key position type, where we have more of a need to develop depth and less young players at our disposal on our list.

I respect JT's ability to pick winners, but surely the decision to retain Laurie is less in JT's remit and more in TL's.  I'd rather give JT the oppertunity to find a few raw key position types and stack our investment in that type of player in the next few years.  Similarly, I'd rather we'd gone way harder to keep Toby Bedford, but no use crying over spilt milk I guess I hope Laurrie does become an AFL standard player, because 6 years is a long time to invest in a solid VFL player, who sometimes plays a great game at that level.

I don't think young Brown will leave anything to the imagination. Will give it his all and I hold high hopes for him.

2 hours ago, Left Foot Snap said:

Brown?

Maybe

but you are asking a lot of a first year rookie

Next year is his key year

I don't see it with Laurie

We've made some dumb list management decisions in recent years, but this is by far the worst. 

Mediocre footballers should not be getting three years of contract security under any circumstances. 

Why the JT and TL protection racket? There have been some clangers. Laurie has not shown near enough to earn this in March. Often average at vfl level.

Of course, it is not the $ itself, but the cap and the spot that is important.

Hope I'm proved wrong.

I rank him alongside Jefferson but at least with Jefferson if us doubters are proved wrong we will have something of real value. There are always lots of Lauries.

8 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Similarly, I'd rather we'd gone way harder to keep Toby Bedford, but no use crying over spilt milk 

I'm still crying!

12 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

No one here is claiming to be better at picking players than JT or TL. But bloody oath we can have an opinion, otherwise this place would be unreadable vanilla.

It's pretty much there already. Plenty of unspeakable topics

Hasn't shown enough for me but the club obviously thinks he's worth it. And I'm starting to realise they get a lot more right than me and then some. Congratulations BL.

Echo a lot of the thoughts here, hasn't really shown it at senior level yet and still some question marks about his best position.  Granted he hasn't had a consistent and solid run to show form, not sure he'll be getting that anytime soon. Has improved his engine but still uncertain on his weapons. At worst it is some versatile depth. Let's hope he proves the doubters wrong

Not a huge fan of this, but I'll assume the FD knows something I don't know about Bill. 

Hope it works out in our favor somehow. 

3 hours ago, Bystander said:

Why the JT and TL protection racket? There have been some clangers.

Do you want to name some?

The Weid didnt work out and there was the Grundy fiasco

Sounds like the FD really rate Bailey and want to see him continue to grow and improve.

I'm happy with this as it ensures we have decent depth on the list and it also give Bailey the opportunity to just focus on footy without the worry about coming out of contract. Lets also not forget that he would be on a relatively low wage for an AFL player so wouldn't be taking much out of our salary cap.

Our recruitment team has been one of the best performed for 10 years now, so anyone trying to call out our misses is taking the p i $ $

In my opinion he is one of a few players we have that, should take a leaf out of the book that JV reads.  Or just take angry pills.

sometimes there is just not enough tostesterone.