Petracca: "When the pressure mounted... we crumbled"

[Salems Lot 2,636]

Behind every great man.......

 

[Young Blood 2,634]

1 hour ago, sue said:

Problem is it is an ingrained habit.  Possible to overcome during practice, but in the heat of a split second decision, hard to overcome the habit.

Yeah I hate to say it but by all training videos and photos the high arc/ball drop remains his style of kicking. I don't think that's going to change unfortunately. It would be quite a big adjustment as Sue says for an engrained natural kicking style his whole career to suddenly change it now consistently. 

[demon3165 2,805]

13 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Well said Tracc. 2 wasted years, he knows it 

Team Standards must improve across the Board, Tracc must improve his Goal Kicking, he knows it. 
 

He was stating the obvious we all saw it they knew it and didn't fix it, it will be interesting to see the corrections this year.

[Sir Why You Little 37,142]

13 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

He was stating the obvious we all saw it they knew it and didn't fix it, it will be interesting to see the corrections this year.

As he said “tweaks” but they are vitally important 

[#11-TonyAnderson 822]

3 hours ago, Young Blood said:

Yeah I hate to say it but by all training videos and photos the high arc/ball drop remains his style of kicking. I don't think that's going to change unfortunately. It would be quite a big adjustment as Sue says for an engrained natural kicking style his whole career to suddenly change it now consistently. 

Apparently, research says you can change a habit after 45 days (if you do the new action every day), so he better start today 🙂

[Demonland 73,163]

4 minutes ago, #11-TonyAnderson said:

Apparently, research says you can change a habit after 45 days (if you do the new action every day), so he better start today 🙂

There are 20 days until Opening Round.

[Guest]

45 minutes ago, Demonland said:

There are 20 days until Opening Round.

He’ll get it half right then 🙃

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,734]

On 15/02/2024 at 13:37, Ollie fan said:

That was a really good interview - but, you know, he said a lot more than just "Under pressure we crumbled".

 

You could select a different quote for this thread IMHO. I thought what he had to say was very positive and very heartening.

Agreed! 

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,734]

On 15/02/2024 at 14:02, DubDee said:

Trac paying $15 for the Brownlow. 

 

you’re welcome

Crazy! Shock horror neither Cornes or King had him in their combined top 10 finish Brownlow locks.. morons

[640MD 3,433]

15 minutes ago, Tolstoys Nudge said:

Crazy! Shock horror neither Cornes or King had him in their combined top 10 finish Brownlow locks.. morons

And I guess they do not have big Max in there either, I really think he will lead from the front this year.  The rucking rule change should suit him and I think he will emulate the great Big Jimma.  And win it  even go one better and be Captain of the Premiers.    I see absolutely no reason otherwise. We were so close last year, even with a decimated Forward setup.

We only missed against the Pies by a bees Richard.  And whoever won that match was set up for the GF.   And it should have been us.

[DemonOX 8,801]

Really liked what he said and hope it can translate to good fortunes on and off the field this season.

Go dees. 

[Brownie 5,988]

I thought it was great to hear him speak the truth.

The only thing I'd disagree with is the "there's always next year" quote.

That will not be the case for some of our older players and we're in a special competitive space right now that won't last too much longer.

There is only this year. Grab it.

[Deestar9 1,649]

51 minutes ago, Brownie said:

I thought it was great to hear him speak the truth.

The only thing I'd disagree with is the "there's always next year" quote.

That will not be the case for some of our older players and we're in a special competitive space right now that won't last too much longer.

There is only this year. Grab it.

Think you’ve taken that remark out of context. I read it as ..yes we didn’t win but there is always next year ..meaning we get another opportunity..it’s not like we lost & there’s no tomorrow. I also gleaned from that podcast that yes.. the players absolutely know what is being said about the team & thankfully have a far more positive attitude than a lot of our posters . 

[58er 6,568]

On 15/02/2024 at 17:20, Chook said:

I remember hearing/reading similar statements before the 2023 season as a response to 2022. Not interested until we show we've learned from it in a final.

Two years were differing reasons but both disappointing.

Chook just go and relax on a desert island and not worry about the Club. You obviously are not up for the good or bad which you get in supporting a footy team.

With your level of commitment and enthusiasm I am pretty confident no one will ring you and let you know if or when we win our next Flag or as you say a Final match.

Bon voyage and sayonara!! 

[JJR 681]

16 hours ago, Salems Lot said:

Behind every great man.......

is a women who took his money.

[Salems Lot 2,636]

5 hours ago, JJR said:

21 hours ago, Salems Lot said:

Behind every great man.......

.

You, my friend need to listen to the podcast. His partner has clearly been the making of him.

[ManDee 7,222]

10 hours ago, JJR said:

On 16/02/2024 at 10:28, Salems Lot said:

Behind every great man.......

is a women who took his money.

Not only have you modified SL's quote you have made a fool of yourself. These antiquated views are boring, grow up.

[Chook 15,022]

On 17/02/2024 at 00:43, 58er said:

Two years were differing reasons but both disappointing.

Chook just go and relax on a desert island and not worry about the Club. You obviously are not up for the good or bad which you get in supporting a footy team.

With your level of commitment and enthusiasm I am pretty confident no one will ring you and let you know if or when we win our next Flag or as you say a Final match.

Bon voyage and sayonara!! 

Bit of an overreaction mate. I'm not interested in players statements in podcasts - that doesn't mean I'm not interested in the club.

[58er 6,568]

1 hour ago, Chook said:

Bit of an overreaction mate. I'm not interested in players statements in podcasts - that doesn't mean I'm not interested in the club.

Glad you clarified that Chook. 

Nevertheless your post was a little sharp and great to know your in the loop.

We can only support the boys and they do try vèry hard but they have run out of fit guys still on the park in ‘22 and last season the forward line was decimated and our replacements didn’t take their chances.

We can with more options this year and greater skill together makeup for our disappointments, as long as we have enough soldiers to go into the heat of the battle. 

[titan_uranus 25,045]

The big quote isn’t even the most insightful thing he said in the podcast.

IMO, the best bit was when he spoke about leadership. He said words to the effect of how he, and maybe our other leaders, have seen leadership as requiring them to put the team on their shoulders when under pressure needing to win a game. 

He said what they have needed to learn to do is to maintain the system, to not deviate. Dyl then said that was a hallmark of Hawthorn under Hodge, who was great at sticking to the Hawks’ method when under pressure. 

How often do we see Trac or Lever take a risky kick, or Gawn belt it a mile forward from a ruck contest, or Viney try to take all the tacklers on, etc. Collingwood, hate them or not, are exceptional at sticking to their plans whether it’s the first minute or the final minute in a 1-point game. I like that Trac has recognised this. 

[Deemania since 56 6,719]

On 16/02/2024 at 10:30, Young Blood said:

Yeah I hate to say it but by all training videos and photos the high arc/ball drop remains his style of kicking. I don't think that's going to change unfortunately. It would be quite a big adjustment as Sue says for an engrained natural kicking style his whole career to suddenly change it now consistently. 

Hook-foot curvers; not the best sight in execution and then, the result. A few have the habit and have owned it as their 'style' so often, yet they deliver better and split the sticks better when conventional drop-put efforts are made. The Melk, is a natural hooker and is made less reliable at the goals, for example, because of it. His record could well be doubled for goals kicked using a more standard, less variable kicking action - it's ok for short passing but that is all. Tracca has adopted the style, too, and so has ANB and Chandler. The latter has demonstrated better and more reliable accuracy with conventional efforts.

 

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

On 18/02/2024 at 12:21, titan_uranus said:

The big quote isn’t even the most insightful thing he said in the podcast.

IMO, the best bit was when he spoke about leadership. He said words to the effect of how he, and maybe our other leaders, have seen leadership as requiring them to put the team on their shoulders when under pressure needing to win a game. 

He said what they have needed to learn to do is to maintain the system, to not deviate. Dyl then said that was a hallmark of Hawthorn under Hodge, who was great at sticking to the Hawks’ method when under pressure. 

How often do we see Trac or Lever take a risky kick, or Gawn belt it a mile forward from a ruck contest, or Viney try to take all the tacklers on, etc. Collingwood, hate them or not, are exceptional at sticking to their plans whether it’s the first minute or the final minute in a 1-point game. I like that Trac has recognised this. 

You couldn't have nailed this any more, i don't think 2023 Collingwood was an especially great team by any measure, but geez they're well coached and they just win the big moments because they obviously drill those into the players. 

in both finals guys tried to rip the game away from opposition when we didn't need to, we had dominance for long periods in both games, we just needed to hold our nerves. 

[picket fence 17,533]

If there's one thing that really annoyed me on Sunday was Traccs now habit of high ball drop and exaggerated arc which resulted in yet another piont. I would suggest he shuts up about pressure when clearly his goal kicking is sub par and crumbly and work on this worrying aspect! 

Edited February 19 by picket fence

[Chook 15,022]

On 18/02/2024 at 12:21, titan_uranus said:

The big quote isn’t even the most insightful thing he said in the podcast.

IMO, the best bit was when he spoke about leadership. He said words to the effect of how he, and maybe our other leaders, have seen leadership as requiring them to put the team on their shoulders when under pressure needing to win a game. 

He said what they have needed to learn to do is to maintain the system, to not deviate. Dyl then said that was a hallmark of Hawthorn under Hodge, who was great at sticking to the Hawks’ method when under pressure. 

How often do we see Trac or Lever take a risky kick, or Gawn belt it a mile forward from a ruck contest, or Viney try to take all the tacklers on, etc. Collingwood, hate them or not, are exceptional at sticking to their plans whether it’s the first minute or the final minute in a 1-point game. I like that Trac has recognised this. 

I personally think this is garbage. The hallmark of the 2021 team was system but with flair. We were still coming into our understanding of the system at the time, so we deviated from it when the time felt right. Bang bang bang wasn't the system, it was "no stuff this we're going to smash them while we have the momentum."

I think the dees team is TOO dependent on the system. We need to free ourselves up to play on instinct. Instinct is the fastest way to do anything. Lean into it more and the opposition will not be able to counteract the speed of those instinctual decisions.

[binman 43,817]

On 17/02/2024 at 13:28, ManDee said:

Not only have you modified SL's quote you have made a fool of yourself. These antiquated views are boring, grow up.

Antiqued and boring is being extremely kind md.

Straight up pathetic misogyny.

Made worse by making it seem as if SL had made that comment, which I did at first - and was shocked because it was completely out of character for Salem's lot.