Demonland 74,457 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 PLAYERS UNDER 24: Tom Sparrow (23), Kysaiah Pickett (22), Trent Rivers (22), Jake Bowey (21), Bailey Laurie (21), Daniel Turner (21), Jacob Van Rooyen (20), Blake Howes (20), Judd McVee (20), Andy Moniz-Wakefield (20), Taj Woewodin (20), Jed Adams (19), Will Verrall (19), Oliver Sestan (19) Matthew Jefferson (19), Kynan Brown (18), Koltyn Tholstrup (18), Caleb Windsor (18) TOP 5: Kysaiah Pickett, Jacob Van Rooyen, Trent Rivers, Tom Sparrow, Jake Bowey. The Demons are covered across all lines with this group but there doesn’t appear a standout player that is going to lead Melbourne to its next premiership. Kysaiah Pickett can still be anything, as can Jacob Van Rooyen. But aside from the draftees from the past two years, there feels a ceiling on most others, although several are certainly best 22 players. Trent Rivers, Jake Bowey and Judd McVee are all examples of players in Melbourne’s best side for the next decade if they want to be, but how much they can continue to improve is the big question. League ranking: 15th Seb Mottram 3 Quote
Clintosaurus 7,953 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Our next flag is 2024. Clowns. 6 3 Quote
Wrecker46 3,130 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said: Our next flag is 2024. Clowns. 4 out of our top 5 players have already won one. 11 1 Quote
Guest Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 22 minutes ago, Demonland said: Trent Rivers, Jake Bowey and Judd McVee are all examples of players in Melbourne’s best side for the next decade if they want to be, but how much they can continue to improve is the big question. League ranking: 15th Seb Mottram As opposed to if they don’t wanna be? What a redundant sentence. Dude’s reached the required word-count by writing stuff for the sake of writing stuff. Quote
DeeZone 10,596 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 We shall see Seb Mottram, we shall see.!!! 1 1 Quote
Willmoy1947 4,261 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Yes, it sounded like he just had to do the required amount of words to complete a task he didn't want to do in the first place. I know that was just said, sorry. 1 Quote
ChaserJ 5,192 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Why does he want to ignore our draftees from the last two years when he hasn’t with other teams? That’s 3 players taken in the first round he’s choosing to ignore. 8 Quote
Little Goffy 14,972 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 We've got an odd demographic chart at the moment - we only have two each of 23yr and 22yr olds (Chandler, Sparrow, Pickett and Rivers, so all inside our best 22 for season 2023). Younger than that and to be noticed you have to be an immediate early-career star, of which there would only be two or three entering the game each year. 1 Quote
Dee Viney Intervention 2,029 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Is Seb Mottram Knightmare?? 4 Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) Seb is asleep at the wheel on Rivers. Surprises me how his talent is not more widely recognised. Edited December 3, 2023 by Nascent 8 1 1 Quote
JJJ 1,348 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Is it the words or the ranking that people are not happy with? The ranking is about right when you think about where we have finished and our very small rotation of players over the past 2 seasons in particular. On exposed VFL and AFL form, you’d only circle a few of our players as genuine future/potential A-Graders; Kozzie, JVR & Rivers. If we still had Jackson our outlook would be a lot better. Plenty of quality AFL types on our list but the next Petracca, Oliver, Gawn, May, Lever et al I don’t think are on our list, hence the desire to get the 1st in the draft this year. 3 1 Quote
adonski 13,280 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 I understand you can only rate or grade what you see, but it feels a bit disingenuous with we have three first rounds picks in Windsor, Kolt & Jefferson yet to play 6 Quote
Wrecker46 3,130 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, JJJ said: Plenty of quality AFL types on our list but the next Petracca, Oliver, Gawn, May, Lever et al I don’t think are on our list, hence the desire to get the 1st in the draft this year. Max Gawn wouldn't have been a feature in our best players under 24 either Edited December 3, 2023 by Wrecker46 3 1 Quote
Dee Zephyr 19,322 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Lol, reading the header I thought we picked up some guy named Young Core. 1 Quote
The Jackson FIX 3,512 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 SEN’s young core of journalists is 15th (of 15) on my list of Australian sports radio stations 8 Quote
ChaserJ 5,192 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, adonski said: I understand you can only rate or grade what you see, but it feels a bit disingenuous with we have three first rounds picks in Windsor, Kolt & Jefferson yet to play Especially when you’ve already rated McKercher & Duursma inside North’s best 5 youngsters. Edited December 3, 2023 by ChaserJ 4 4 Quote
adonski 13,280 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, ChaserJ said: Especially when you’ve rated McKercher & Duursma inside North’s best 5 youngsters. Lol classic 3 1 Quote
BAMF 4,487 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 What the [censored] is this [censored]? 1 Quote
Gawndy the Great 9,011 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Seb already named Daicos as the Brownlow favourite. Probably had McStay as the Coleman medalist too. 1 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,691 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Honestly I don't think it's unreasonable. It's clearly not the strength of our list and there's a lot of bad teams that have dominated the drafts with the pointy end of high talent. I do think it undervalues our spread of young talent in various parts of the ground. It's fair to say we don't have that lock top 5 pick that looks a sure thing at being a superstar. Although I wouldn't then say JVR and Pickett are a chance yet rule out Rivers and McVee. For every one of the games best players who's a super high pick like a Petracca there's another player like a Gawn who can make huge leaps as they improve. 5 Quote
RalphiusMaximus 6,112 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 I can't believe how much they continue to underrate Juddy. 8 Quote
Roger Mellie 4,205 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 This clown has Essendon's team at 13th - lol! I don't think we need to waste any more time on this article: PLAYERS UNDER 24: Xavier Duursma (23 years old), Jye Caldwell (23), Harrison Jones (22), Nic Martin (22), Sam Durham (22), Nick Bryan (22), Nik Cox (21), Zach Reid (21), Archie Perkins (21), Jaiden Hunter (21), Kaine Baldwin (21), Jye Menzie (21), Ben Hobbs (20), Tex Wanganeen (20), Jayden Davey (19), Alwyn Davey Jnr (19), Lewis Hayes (19), Lual Luamon (18), Nate Caddy (18), Vigo Visentini (18), Archie Roberts (18) TOP 5: Nic Martin, Jye Caldwell, Xavier Duursma, Archie Perkins, Ben Hobbs. The Bombers boast one of the league’s most promising young cohorts whose positions range across the ground. This group is headed by rising guns Jye Caldwell, Nick Martin and new recruit Xavier Duursma, with the likes of Archie Perkins, Elijah Tsatas and Harrison Jones not too far behind. Recent draft additions such as dynamic key forward Nate Caddy and running defenders Lual Luamon and Archie Roberts further boost this young core, as they should all push for senior debuts in 2024. Essendon fans have been patiently waiting for their first finals win since 2004, and it seems that these promising youngsters will finally take them there in the near future. League ranking: 13th 2 Quote
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Remember when champion data ranked our midfield bottom 4 at the start of the 2021 season? Good times were had by all 🙄😂 2 6 Quote
Fork 'em 7,052 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 9 hours ago, rjay said: Seb who? I'm with you. Never heard of him. 1 1 Quote
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