The state of the two Collingwood twerps. Was that a cigarette or a lollipop hanging out the gob of one of them? 

8 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

Yeh. Imagine.

Remind me who suggested he ignore the question/questions?

Why is it always so black and white with you hardcore fan-boys and girls?

There is a space that exists.... in betweeeeeenn the black and white.

I would have thought talking about a Whattsapp group is txt book way of staying in the space between black and white

I would like Max to focus on his kicking as he is ranked the worst kick in the comp. He is our leader and during that finals series he botched some shots at the goals. 

Maybe instead of saying anything Max should have gone the full Marcel Marceau and let his actions do the talking. He could have mimed marking, kicking goals instead of points, given the goal umpires' goal signal so that it was all clear and ended with a triumphant mime of raising the cup.  Imagine the headlines "Max Marceau mimes Melbourne marvellous!"

 

Supporters: What are you going to do about the mess the club is in?!

Max: Tough love during the pre-season. Don’t worry, we have a plan. 

Supporters: Talk is cheap. We don’t want to hear it. 

Whether he mentioned 'tough love' or not, the better question is whether 'tough love' would work? Gone are the days when players would do everything a coach asked without question, even if that question was internalised and never stated out loud. That's the coaching style of yesteryear and was highly successful for John Kennedy, Denis Pagan, Mick Malthouse and others. Today's generation of players (and that generation generally) have different expectations as to how they should be treated. I suspect the handling of Clayton Oliver needs to be very different to that of Angus Brayshaw which would be different again from Steven May.

It's been said before, but a good coach understand the game; a great coach also understands his players.

15 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Supporters: What are you going to do about the mess the club is in?!

Max: Tough love during the pre-season. Don’t worry, we have a plan. 

Supporters: Talk is cheap. We don’t want to hear it. 

Very true ET. You could replace the supporters with footy public in general inc media. 

Am I missing something here ?
Max is the ONLY one that I have seen so far that has admitted that there are some issues that need addressing. Yes, he said that the culture is pretty good BUT there are some things that need to be looked at. That is a helluva lot more than Goodwin & Pert said. They just kept the line going about great culture & nothing to see here.
As for May: FFS, he was at a CLUB function, having had a few beers (by his own admission when he was interviewed at the time) and made a comment from the heart to HIS people (not the general football public), If not then, when the hell CAN he say something ?  He has now said "okay, probably could have chosen my words better" which should appease all the butt hurt [censored] out there. If not, WGAF ?
At the end of the day, the proof will be in the pudding, but slagging off players for actually answering questions ain't helping anyone.

Premiership or Bust 2024

That is the job of next year

I get the talk is cheap comment.

But if anyone at the club has earned the right to talk it's Max.

I think it's good that the club is saying we are disappointed and pulling out all the stops.

 

I suggest Max takes the boys out for a proper p*ss up in the off season. Let the hair down and not be so serious all the time. Forget tough love. Have some fun. 

18 hours ago, Monbon said:

 

Well, not really. I put my money where my mouth is, by purchasing family memberships for both men's and women's programs. Of course, I'm happy to do so, but will also call out when the same old rhetoric gets trotted out.

Edited November 10, 20231 yr by george_on_the_outer

16 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Okay Max.

Less words and more actions thanks. We've been hearing too much words for the past two years.

How did you want him to respond Dazzle?  What would have satisfied you?

4 hours ago, dees189227 said:

I would like Max to focus on his kicking as he is ranked the worst kick in the comp. He is our leader and during that finals series he botched some shots at the goals. 

As herculean as he was against Collingwood, he was one of the key culprits in our loss to Carlton.

It's not that hard to kick a goal from as far out as the point post.

I was promised tough love once. It cost me a fortune, but gee it was fun.

17 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

Yeah well I have plenty more to say but no more to add!

JUST SHUT THE FURG UP and let the footy do the talking, and you can start by BANNING the club song for any game but a Grand Final Win!

53 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said:

How did you want him to respond Dazzle?  What would have satisfied you?

Saying ZILCH Because we are the laughing stock of the AFL at the moment and comments by Max like this just heap more pressure on an even more Beleaguered club! 

6 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Saying ZILCH Because we are the laughing stock of the AFL at the moment and comments by Max like this just heap more pressure on an even more Beleaguered club! 

What comment did Max make that you think would add more pressure.

 

1 hour ago, BDA said:

I suggest Max takes the boys out for a proper p*ss up in the off season. Let the hair down and not be so serious all the time. Forget tough love. Have some fun. 

The “Cool Runnings” approach.

24 minutes ago, rjay said:

What comment did Max make that you think would add more pressure.

 

Promising Tough Love, I mean really?? As if to say this isn't part of our culture already??? GARBAGE COMMENT! Maybe just another new Learning spare me Max just shut up and play footy and do not give ANY amo to anyone!

Edited November 10, 20231 yr by picket fence

2 hours ago, BDA said:

I suggest Max takes the boys out for a proper p*ss up in the off season. Let the hair down and not be so serious all the time. Forget tough love. Have some fun. 

Good idea. Can Goody come? Umm maybe not.

Looks like Max is trying to improve the culture.

“Hi mate, if you are here to ask me about my tip for the Cup, happy to oblige- but I wouldn’t put my money on it. But if you are here to ask me football related questions, can I say that I am currently on holiday, and am enjoying my day at the races with a few close mates. I will happily answer these types of questions in a months time when I’m back at work. That ok for you? I’m sorry if it’s not, but that’s the way it’s gonna be”.

Personally I see the tough love line as a nice diffuser on the Goodwin interview. They carried on afterwards that goody didn’t reach out to smith (he interviewed the morning after returning back from overseas, understandable to still be p’d off) 

happy max is personable enough to not ignore media. He wasn’t alone on the ledge for missed shots in finals, and I’m sure he’s open to receiving it back. Plenty of talk this preseason please dees. Professional words and advice to build each other up further. And action to show you’ve heard and respected it. Never forget Aaron vandenBergs contribution to the flag. 

2 hours ago, Slartibartfast said:

How did you want him to respond Dazzle?  What would have satisfied you?

Maybe a simple polite decline to be interviewed? Who would have thought hey slart? Half surprised you couldn't think of that all up by yourself. 

We've copped enough [censored] from the media this year so we owe them nothing. Player's aren't forced to give interviews and nor should we oblige too.