Is it a risk picking up Nate Caddy as that would be 3 talls in 3 years. though when you look at our 2021 flag talls, jackson has left, t mac is old, benny is past his prime and injury ridden and may only has a few years left? I reckon we should pick him up as he is versitile and with pick ten i reckon we pick up a guy who will start his career in the foward and then move to the mid( a bit like trac)

Ps did anyone else realise caddy averages 2.7 goals a game

4 minutes ago, clarrypetracca135 said:

Is it a risk picking up Nate Caddy as that would be 3 talls in 3 years. though when you look at our 2021 flag talls, jackson has left, t mac is old, benny is past his prime and injury ridden and may only has a few years left? I reckon we should pick him up as he is versitile and with pick ten i reckon we pick up a guy who will start his career in the foward and then move to the mid( a bit like trac)

Ps did anyone else realise caddy averages 2.7 goals a game

he's a bit smaller than normal, i believe?

also, with the 'density' rules in underage football, it's a misnomer to look at average goals a game

We need to develop a tall who can play at the other end of the ground in 2-4 years. Tommo is cooked, May doesn't have long to go, Petty might keep playing forward and Turner is no certainty to be a regular AFL player.

 

 

51 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

he's a bit smaller than normal, i believe?

also, with the 'density' rules in underage football, it's a misnomer to look at average goals a game

yeah article states 192cm and 90kg. which is short and stickup than the likes of Jefferson. Could make an impact earlier in theory. 

1 hour ago, clarrypetracca135 said:

Is it a risk picking up Nate Caddy as that would be 3 talls in 3 years. though when you look at our 2021 flag talls, jackson has left, t mac is old, benny is past his prime and injury ridden and may only has a few years left? I reckon we should pick him up as he is versitile and with pick ten i reckon we pick up a guy who will start his career in the foward and then move to the mid( a bit like trac)

Ps did anyone else realise caddy averages 2.7 goals a game

Caddy looks like he will be a hybrid forward but could end up developing into an inside midfielder.

Jefferson has shown little to suggest he will be an AFL footballer IMO.

44 minutes ago, seventyfour said:

We need to develop a tall who can play at the other end of the ground in 2-4 years. Tommo is cooked, May doesn't have long to go, Petty might keep playing forward and Turner is no certainty to be a regular AFL player.

 

 

Both Petty and JVR are legitimate swingmen, but are our best 2 kpfs. Adams is still developing, but is a wait and see. Maybe long term Jefferson could be developed as a key back. There's plenty of instances of key forwards who have developed into key backs.

1 hour ago, clarrypetracca135 said:

Is it a risk picking up Nate Caddy as that would be 3 talls in 3 years. though when you look at our 2021 flag talls, jackson has left, t mac is old, benny is past his prime and injury ridden and may only has a few years left? I reckon we should pick him up as he is versitile and with pick ten i reckon we pick up a guy who will start his career in the foward and then move to the mid( a bit like trac)

Ps did anyone else realise caddy averages 2.7 goals a game

I'd say he has a lot less than a few years left.

Otherwise, you make a good selling point about picking up Caddy.

When coaching in junior competitions a couple of years ago, the Sandy Dragons asked for "likely" players to join their squad. 

But the recruiting staff asked us not to put forward kids who wouldn't grow much more, no matter how good they were in juniors.  To stand out at the next level you had to be big.   They already had a 14 year old ruck who was 210cm.  They also pointed out Nate Fyfe was 190cm and Patrick Cripps 195cm....they said this was the size of mid-fielders in the future, as proved to be the case (3 Brownlows).

So a player like Caddy is not a tall by the AFL standards these days. 

In fact they are all tall when you get to meet a group of them in real life.

Edited October 13, 20231 yr by george_on_the_outer

51 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

When coaching in junior competitions a couple of years ago, the Sandy Dragons asked for "likely" players to join their squad. 

But the recruiting staff asked us not to put forward kids who wouldn't grow much more, no matter how good they were in juniors.  To stand out at the next level you had to be big.   They already had a 14 year old ruck who was 210cm.  They also pointed out Nate Fyfe was 190cm and Patrick Cripps 195cm....they said this was the size of mid-fielders in the future, as proved to be the case (3 Brownlows).

So a player like Caddy is not a tall by the AFL standards these days. 

In fact they are all tall when you get to meet a group of them in real life.

Lachie Neale would like a word

Stiff on Jefferson. Kid was only drafted 12 months ago. 

I'd be giving him at least another VFL season before making any further comment.

2 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

When coaching in junior competitions a couple of years ago, the Sandy Dragons asked for "likely" players to join their squad. 

But the recruiting staff asked us not to put forward kids who wouldn't grow much more, no matter how good they were in juniors.  To stand out at the next level you had to be big.   They already had a 14 year old ruck who was 210cm.  They also pointed out Nate Fyfe was 190cm and Patrick Cripps 195cm....they said this was the size of mid-fielders in the future, as proved to be the case (3 Brownlows).

So a player like Caddy is not a tall by the AFL standards these days. 

In fact they are all tall when you get to meet a group of them in real life.

Thanks g_o_t_o, very insightful comments, we have a great nucleus of small - medium players and are likely to lose TMac, BBB (Petty) and Tomlinson at the end of 2024. We should go big in the draft or we could be caught short.!! No pun intended.

On 13/10/2023 at 10:44, mo64 said:

Both Petty and JVR are legitimate swingmen, but are our best 2 kpfs. Adams is still developing, but is a wait and see. Maybe long term Jefferson could be developed as a key back. There's plenty of instances of key forwards who have developed into key backs.

mo64 - interested why you refer to JVR as a legitimate swingman.  I haven’t ever heard of him playing in defence.

Certainly Petty, and perhaps Smith but unaware of any others on our list. 

On 13/10/2023 at 12:10, BW511 said:

Lachie Neale would like a word

At the head of the Brownlow top-10 delegation of Butters, Gulden, Serong and Viney!

And my profile name has nothing to do with it, I swear.

On 13/10/2023 at 10:39, Fat Tony said:

Caddy looks like he will be a hybrid forward but could end up developing into an inside midfielder.

Jefferson has shown little to suggest he will be an AFL footballer IMO.

Lol, shown plenty 

10 hours ago, monoccular said:

mo64 - interested why you refer to JVR as a legitimate swingman.  I haven’t ever heard of him playing in defence.

Certainly Petty, and perhaps Smith but unaware of any others on our list. 

I can't find the team at all online. But from memory JVR was named at CHB in the 2021 U18 AA team.

The way our trade period is going makes it more important that our two first round selections are a strong chance to have an impact next year ala our 2019 crop. 
Caddy has good physical shape already but I’m not sure about him. Didn’t impress in the two or three games I watched him and will be a very similar size to JVR. We also have picked key forwards with our first pick for the past couple of years. 
It will all depend on who’s left at our second pick I suppose but I’d prefer us to take a quality mid and key back that have a good chance of making an impact this year. 
Curtain/ OSullivan and one of McKercher, Sanders, Wilson or Windsor. 

9 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

At the head of the Brownlow top-10 delegation of Butters, Gulden, Serong and Viney!

And my profile name has nothing to do with it, I swear.

Don't forget our team consisting of Kozzy, Spags, Chandler and Bowey!

Just read on a big footy thread that Caddy has is now 193cm and growing. Might make him more appealing. 

We need pace and outside run with some skilled midfielders added. Everyone on here knows that I’m looking at Sanders and Darcy Wilson with our 1st two picks (unless we weave magic and get either of the pick 1,2,or3) They are skilled players with pace and smart decision makers.  Thats our priority in my view.  

48 minutes ago, Colm said:

Just read on a big footy thread that Caddy has is now 193cm and growing. Might make him more appealing. 

Apparently Curtin has grown to 197cm too.

If that’s the case, he’d be a very, very handy acquisition at CHB for us.

Edited October 16, 20231 yr by BW511

Here's a link to the last 2021 Phantom Draft by Cal Twomey. Van Rooyen listed as Defender/Forward that can play either end.

*Twomey had him going at 20 to Brisbane.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.afl.com.au/news/688361/cal-twomeys-2021-phantom-afl-draft-top-30-late-picks-club-whispers/amp

On 13/10/2023 at 08:51, seventyfour said:

We need to develop a tall who can play at the other end of the ground in 2-4 years. Tommo is cooked, May doesn't have long to go, Petty might keep playing forward and Turner is no certainty to be a regular AFL player.

 

 

Firstly I think Disco is AFL ready end if story just needs the games. 

Secondly you didn’t mention Jed Adams who is a year away probably but recruited for a back KP role. 

Thirdly think  Daniel Curtin from WA is about 195/6cm and the  player who can also play on the ball who would be best if still at 6. Caddy if not a great back up unless we went for solely a back player only. I think a versatile option id best. Adams is that and JVR and Harry P are also changeable. 
 

 

Caddy is aggressive, which I like, but he's also a fumbler and two grabber, which I don't.  For me he lacks class.

I'll be shocked if we take him at 6.  I wouldn't take him with 11.

On 13/10/2023 at 11:19, george_on_the_outer said:

When coaching in junior competitions a couple of years ago, the Sandy Dragons asked for "likely" players to join their squad. 

But the recruiting staff asked us not to put forward kids who wouldn't grow much more, no matter how good they were in juniors.  To stand out at the next level you had to be big.   They already had a 14 year old ruck who was 210cm.  They also pointed out Nate Fyfe was 190cm and Patrick Cripps 195cm....they said this was the size of mid-fielders in the future, as proved to be the case (3 Brownlows).

So a player like Caddy is not a tall by the AFL standards these days. 

In fact they are all tall when you get to meet a group of them in real life.

Collingwood GF midfield says hello. 

On 13/10/2023 at 10:44, mo64 said:

Both Petty and JVR are legitimate swingmen, but are our best 2 kpfs. Adams is still developing, but is a wait and see. Maybe long term Jefferson could be developed as a key back. There's plenty of instances of key forwards who have developed into key backs.

Jvr is a natural forward with all the aggression and athleticism to be a perfect cjf. I hope we get a full season of Petty at ff . It was a good move from Goody to play him fwd ( eventually) and I hope we resist the temptation to move him back. Im frustrated by our lack of finding another established fwd and also another defender to replace Petty down back.  Has Tommo moved on?