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Get jack darling in for a 3rd or 4th rounder. Hes not the future but he is the right now.  I am not joking.

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    1 hour ago, biggestred said:

    Get jack darling in for a 3rd or 4th rounder. Hes not the future but he is the right now.  I am not joking.

    No…..Next

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    I don't think you need to write off the forwards on our list quite yet.  JVR and Jefferson are both quality young players.  They just need another couple of years to build their bodies and turn into AFL footballers.  I would expect Jefferson to play in the seniors at some point next year.  His mobility and athleticism are a good foil for JVR.  If we use Petty as the primary KPF, they could both work off him and impact games.  

    That being said, the elephant in the room is that our forward line problems aren't about the players.  It's all about the gameplan, or more accurately, the lack of a plan to score goals.  We default to either a bomb to the "hot spot" or a chip to the pocket, two spectacularly low-percentage plays.  Our forwards don't move, they don't work for each other, they have no tactics in use to create space for each other so we can take marks in threatening positions.  This is entirely on the coaches and it needs to be addressed far more than whether we have the players.  

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    26 minutes ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

    I don't think you need to write off the forwards on our list quite yet.  JVR and Jefferson are both quality young players.  They just need another couple of years to build their bodies and turn into AFL footballers.  I would expect Jefferson to play in the seniors at some point next year.  His mobility and athleticism are a good foil for JVR.  If we use Petty as the primary KPF, they could both work off him and impact games.  

    That being said, the elephant in the room is that our forward line problems aren't about the players.  It's all about the gameplan, or more accurately, the lack of a plan to score goals.  We default to either a bomb to the "hot spot" or a chip to the pocket, two spectacularly low-percentage plays.  Our forwards don't move, they don't work for each other, they have no tactics in use to create space for each other so we can take marks in threatening positions.  This is entirely on the coaches and it needs to be addressed far more than whether we have the players.  

    I’m chips in for JVR 

    Jefferson is a wait and see imv.  Some good signs but not enough. Too early.   He’s better than Lucas Cook but might trend into a Weideman type (bloke you wish your daughter marries but wouldn’t crash through a pack to grab the footy at all costs). 

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    3 hours ago, Binmans PA said:

    He's a very solid ground ball player too.

    And he holds his own against bigger bodies

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    12 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Oscar Allen enquiries please. 
    We have trading currency 

    He is the best guy out there. Serious player.

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    12 hours ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

    I don't think you need to write off the forwards on our list quite yet.  JVR and Jefferson are both quality young players.  They just need another couple of years to build their bodies and turn into AFL footballers.  I would expect Jefferson to play in the seniors at some point next year.  His mobility and athleticism are a good foil for JVR.  If we use Petty as the primary KPF, they could both work off him and impact games.  

    That being said, the elephant in the room is that our forward line problems aren't about the players.  It's all about the gameplan, or more accurately, the lack of a plan to score goals.  We default to either a bomb to the "hot spot" or a chip to the pocket, two spectacularly low-percentage plays.  Our forwards don't move, they don't work for each other, they have no tactics in use to create space for each other so we can take marks in threatening positions.  This is entirely on the coaches and it needs to be addressed far more than whether we have the players.  

    If you are expecting Jefferson to step up and address our fwd line issues you will be severely disappointed.

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    17 hours ago, DeeZone said:

    Will Verrall is the same size as Luke Jackson so he is tall enough for a ruck/forward, he and Jed Adams need big pre-seasons so we can see how good they are, when fit and healthy both came to us with injuries. !!

    Didnt they have big preseasons this year??

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    16 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    If you are expecting Jefferson to step up and address our fwd line issues you will be severely disappointed.

    Jefferson may  not make it in my limited view unless he gets seriously stronger and more mobile

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    On 9/18/2023 at 12:01 PM, Dr. Gonzo said:

    Petty JVR Fritsch Pickett McAdam

    Petracca Smith

    ANB/Spargo

    I would try Bowey at half forward (replace Spargo?) and I think Chandler was ok but didn't take his opportunities so should be seen as depth in 2024.

    Top 5 above are locks i reckon

    Where does Smith play? He has done nothing wrong imo

    HF - Pickett, JVR, McAdam

    F - Fritsch, Petty, ???

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    7 minutes ago, SthSea22 said:

    Top 5 above are locks i reckon

    Where does Smith play? He has done nothing wrong imo

    HF - Pickett, JVR, McAdam

    F - Fritsch, Petty, ???

    McAdam won't ever be picked ahead of ANB unless Goody had time off for injury illness or any thing else requiring rest. 

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    I’d look at this guy as stock 

    he isn’t Jeremy Cameron t lynch etc

    We can afford him

    he is behind Luke Jackson and Darcy at Freo

    he is a fwd who evolved to be a ruck not other way round

    https://demonland.com/forums/topic/54418-the-liam-reidy-thread/?do=getNewComment

     

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    14 hours ago, Roost it far said:

    As a forward?

    Probably not. I meant on the backline as a third tall mainly but might share with Tommo depending upon the brutes in the opposition. 

    I also believe ( and hope ) Disco could be skilled enough to mind smaller flankers. Time will tell. 

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    17 minutes ago, Kent said:

    Didnt they have big preseasons this year??

    No Kent both Adams and Verrall missed most of the preseason Verrall in fact missed half the season with a pelvis fracture.

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    13 minutes ago, 58er said:

    McAdam won't ever be picked ahead of ANB unless Goody had time off for injury illness or any thing else requiring rest. 

    Let's hope Goody has a better mindset in 2024

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    On 9/19/2023 at 7:25 AM, Travy14 said:

    T-Mac stays on just as depth and to help develop the new lot IMO.

    Petty will have to go fwd but i think his best position is a Key defender and when May retires i think that is where he will be.

    Smith unfortunately doesn't have the footy smarts, he has the athleticism but we have seen once he half cements his spot in the side and teams actually but some time into him he isn't good enough to work through it.  Great Sub though!

    I think our Fwd for the future is:

    Fritsch, JVR, Kozzy

    ANB, Jefferson, Chandler,  Bench - (Spargo)

    We also have Moniz-Wakefield in the reserves.  The only think is Jefferson is still 18 months away from AFL standard, so we need something in the meantime to help out which could be where Petty comes in, and a big reason they are telling Tommo he is required (to allow Petty to play forward)

    We also have McAdam coming in which im not happy about but some more depth in that area.

    Bowie stays as a back for mine, i think we will see rivers move into the midfield next year which means Salem will get his role back which Rivers took over this year and Bowie is surprisingly good 1v1.  If Rivers leaves the backline we need that class in Bowie back there.

    Smith kicked 3 goals straight and had one taken away from him from Kozzie's stupidity.

    What do you mean he doesn't have the smarts?

    He's locked into our 22 if he continues this form and applies tackling pressure.

     

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    52 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    He is the best guy out there. Serious player.

    He is the one you would want, It would take 2x first rounders to prize him away, plus he is a WA boy.

    He wouldn't want to leave Mummy and Daddy.

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    16 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

    Smith kicked 3 goals straight and had one taken away from him from Kozzie's stupidity.

    What do you mean he doesn't have the smarts?

    He's locked into our 22 if he continues this form and applies tackling pressure.

     

    Hows smiths career been?  Weid kicked 3 in a final too.

    If he continues this form sure,  but in his 6 years at the club he has shown he can't do that.

    He has shock factor and catches teams off guard, once they put some time into him he has shown he can't work through it.  42 games in 6 years is a pretty good indication of that. 6 of which he was sub.

    On the weekend he kicked three goals, kicked 2 and Kossie screwed one up for him before half time.  After Halftime Carlt made a change and put someone on him,  he had 1 more disposal for the rest of the game, a half of football and one disposal.  Didn't touch it in the last quarter. 

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    36 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

    Hows smiths career been?  Weid kicked 3 in a final too.

    If he continues this form sure,  but in his 6 years at the club he has shown he can't do that.

    He has shock factor and catches teams off guard, once they put some time into him he has shown he can't work through it.  42 games in 6 years is a pretty good indication of that. 6 of which he was sub.

    On the weekend he kicked three goals, kicked 2 and Kossie screwed one up for him before half time.  After Halftime Carlt made a change and put someone on him,  he had 1 more disposal for the rest of the game, a half of football and one disposal.  Didn't touch it in the last quarter. 

    In fairness to Smith he's been completely played put of position his whole career down back.

    It's only this year the coaches decided to wake up and realise his athletic traits is best suited up forward.

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    24 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    In fairnessbto Smith he's been completely played put of position his whole career down back.

    It's only this year the coaches decided to wake up and realise his athletic traits is best suited up forward.

    he has played everywhere, and had a lot of opportunities to grab a spot.  I honestly think he is the perfect, he played some very good games in that position.  He isn't going to play ofer Fritsch and if we do get another key forward in we can't play 2 talls, Fritta and Smith

    i hope he proves me wrong and becomes a solid forward for us but i can't see it and he when playing forward has been a player that gets in the road of others too.

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    54 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

    Smith kicked 3 goals straight and had one taken away from him from Kozzie's stupidity.

    What do you mean he doesn't have the smarts?

    He's locked into our 22 if he continues this form and applies tackling pressure.

     

    Our Key forwards were generally pretty accurate this year, just a shame everyone took it turns being injured (or suspended in JVRs case)

    Still plenty to build on from this  - Smith 11.4, BBB 11.4, JvR 28.9, Petty 12.1

     

     

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    In 2022 Tmac didn't play in our 2 finals. But Bbb did and managed only one goal for the whole series.

    This year Bbb didn't play and Tmac did. Same return one goal for the whole series.

    Do we delist them both?

    Need to move on and find some younger talent. Asap. 

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